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On Mar 8, 1:31 am, "
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On Mar 7, 8:32?pm, "an_old_friend" wrote:

On Mar 7, 9:45 pm, wrote:


On Mar 5, 7:06 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:


"Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
When he electrocutes himself we will have the dumbed-down general license
exam to blame.


Message volume in this newsgroup would drop by 99%.


So, is that a 'bad thing'?


Exactly why did you return to RRAP?


to help his buddy Robeson?


Sounds like a winner opinion, Mark! :-)

"Frauds of a feather stick together..."

73, AF6AY


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On Mar 10, 9:41 am, wrote:
On Mar 9, 10:30 pm, Thomas Horne wrote:





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On Mar 9, 5:49 pm, Thomas Horne wrote:
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On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
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On Mar 4, 10:09 am, "Dee Flint" wrote:
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All of amateur radio is fine for the casual operator.
Ok then, let's do the same as some typical European countries. Only one
license class and every one takes the equivalent of the Extra class written
exam. Prior to the no code change, they did not have entry level licenses.
All licenses took the same written (basically equivalent to our Extra
written) and those who passed code got everything while those who didn't
were VHF/UHF only. When the code was dropped, they folded the two groups
into one. No need to haul out the many variations that existed. While some
countries did have an entry license with a simpler written there were others
who didn't. In some countries, you had to take formal classes and you were
not allowed to take the test if you had just studied on your own.
Dee, N8UZE
Dee
Are you saying you see that last as a positive thing? It would
certainly be good for the technical education industry but does that
make it a good thing for amateur radio.
If a formal course were a requirement then I imagine that it would be
easier to find one. I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class
material. I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable
correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along
those lines.
--
Tom Horne, KB3OPR/AG- Hide quoted text -
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Lessee...
The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation,
Digital....
I take it you're suggesting that I take all of the ARRL advanced classes
as a substitute for a single class that is focused on the body of
knowledge that the exam tests for. At the urging of the VEs that ran my
general exam I took the extra the same day. I didn't pass but I did get
a sense of what the exam is testing for. I only recall two questions on
digital circuits or logic. Should I really take an entire course for
the sake of those two questions?
--
Tom Horne, KB3OPR


Tom, if you failed the Extra exam by two questions, then perhaps an
entire course is worthwhile... And what would it hurt to have more
knowledge than that minimum required to pass an exam? After all, it's
what you do with your license that's important.


The Old-Timers felt that the ARS gave up a lot when the FCC reduced
the Morse Code Exam to a single 5WPM (at 13-15WPM) exam. The ARRL
struck back with any number of on-line courses to beef up the
knowledge base of the service. I asked this very group if anyone had
taken any of the courses... no positive responses. They already know
everything. You admit that you don't, so perhaps a course would
benefit you.


Good luck getting to Extra.


I didn't say that I missed by two questions. I said I only saw two
questions on the exam that were related to digital circuits.


Sorry.

I was
wondering if it was worth taking the entire digital course to prepare
for two questions. I'd like to get the license as soon as possible so
that I can serve as a control operator on any frequency that might be
useful for emergency services work. That is were my particular interest
lies.


That was my interest for getting a license, too.

I will be taking those courses once I have finished the Exam
preparation. What I was hoping to find was a course that is focused on
preparing for the Extra Class Exam.
--
Tom Horne


The ARRL publishes videos for licensing. Maybe some group locall has
them.


check the larger radio clubs when looking for the extra class

or get it yourslef donate it to a club when you are finshed and deduct
it on your taxes

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On Mar 10, 7:49�am, wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:31 am, "
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On Mar 7, 8:32?pm, "an_old_friend" wrote:


On Mar 7, 9:45 pm, wrote:


On Mar 5, 7:06 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:


"Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
When he electrocutes himself we will have the dumbed-down general license
exam to blame.


Message volume in this newsgroup would drop by 99%.


So, is that a 'bad thing'?


Exactly why did you return to RRAP?


to help his buddy Robeson?


* *Sounds like a winner opinion, Mark! *:-)


* *"Frauds of a feather stick together..."


No tar required.


"Crazy Glue" might apply... :-)

"Mankind invented language to satisfy its need to complain."
(anonymous saying)

73, Len AF6AY


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"Mankind invented language to satisfy its need to complain."
(anonymous saying)

73, Len AF6AY



I coulda' said that! He/she just beat me!

Regards AF6AY!,
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On Mar 9, 10:30 pm, Thomas Horne wrote:
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The Old-Timers felt that the ARS gave up a lot when the FCC reduced
the Morse Code Exam to a single 5WPM (at 13-15WPM) exam. The ARRL
struck back with any number of on-line courses to beef up the
knowledge base of the service. I asked this very group if anyone had
taken any of the courses... no positive responses. They already know
everything. You admit that you don't, so perhaps a course would
benefit you.
Good luck getting to Extra.

I didn't say that I missed by two questions. I said I only saw two
questions on the exam that were related to digital circuits. I was
wondering if it was worth taking the entire digital course to prepare
for two questions.


No, it's not. A night spent digesting a chapter or two on the subject
area in the ARRL Handbook should be more than enough prep on the
subject.

I'd like to get the license as soon as possible so
that I can serve as a control operator on any frequency that might be
useful for emergency services work. That is were my particular interest
lies. I will be taking those courses once I have finished the Exam
preparation. What I was hoping to find was a course that is focused on
preparing for the Extra Class Exam.


~~~

You might consider one of these:

http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=8659#top

http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Class-El.../dp/0945053266

ttp://www.gordonwestradioschool.com/

http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/FCCTest/

--
Tom Horne


w3rv

. . One of those nasty hostile old 20wpm Extras who knows
EVERYTHING . .

Like how to put up antennas and get T5 cards . .


W3RV de KB3OPR/AG
TNX for trying to help but I'm not finding the prep as hard as I
expected. I'm now passing my practice exams without difficulty at forty
plus questions correct and I'm only two chapters into the ARRL extra
license book. I bookmarked the links for future reference and I do
appreciate the effort you went to in finding them for me.
--
Tom Horne
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