On Mar 29, 5:52�pm, wrote:
On Mar 29, 10:19 pm, "AF6AY" wrote:
On Mar 29, 3:08?am, wrote:
On Mar 29, 12:18 am, Dave Heil wrote:
AF6AY wrote:
On Mar 27, 5:19?pm, wrote:

You didn't serve in Korea.

* *As far as I'm concerned, Heil hasn't shown us ANY proof
* *that He was in southeast Asia during his military service.

I believe him. *Then there was the American Embassy in Tanzania. *I've
wondered about his proximity during the bombing.

Well, let's just say that Heil's PROOF of service is a tad
scant. :-)

You made up your classic tale of
what it is like to undergo an artillery barrage. ?

Did Len get it wrong? ?Tell us what it's like.

* *I'd like to know what David "knows." *I've been roughly
* *200 yards from an artillery fall...which was 300 yards
* *too close to the training group I was in.

Yeh, there's usuall one KIA on every FTX, but usually from a vehicle
accident or pushing a mast ito power lines or something usually
preventable. *We had a round impact next to dmain - I think it was
moonsan during Winter Haze. *They really shouldn't let those guys play
with those things. *They could hurt someone.

Right! The cadre we had were mostly career officers of
the red (artillery) and were NOT happy about THEM being
so close to the fall zone.


Your smugness is legendary.

* *It must be his training at the Fruenze Military Academy. *:-)

Did they win the war?

Yes, they did! [see private e-mail]



* *Well, we've had Major Dud in here expostulating up a storm
* *about his "USMC career." *

Curtailed career with no explanation whatsoever... *VA hospital,
rehabilitation, and disability pension, but was never injured, save
for some grit that got in his eye once. *Hmmmm?

Heh...but he finally got some RANK. I looked in on his
home page. A much newer flight suit, but less hair and
more pudgyness. Still the familiar scowl. He must think
that makes him look like a "tough guy." :-)

* *We've had Heil telling all sorts of
* *things about "being in a country AT war." *Those all blend
* *together, don't they?

So who hasn't? *Most of the people I actually know have been
deployed. *I don't actually know Jim, but I'm told he has served in
other ways.

Serving is serving. Who knows, he could have been a bus
boy at an O Club somewhere in PA when going to collitch.
Bus boys sometimes do serving.

* *Did David actually OPERATE any radios (other than a BC
* *receiver) in Vietnam? *I must have missed one of his brags
* *about that because I don't recall him giving any information
* *on that. *I really can't believe half of what he says in here.

All I can recall about his retelling of his Vietnam period was being
PO'd at not being permitted to be a ham over there.

Really? I thought he ran the Vietnam MARS stations all
by himself! I was mistaken. :-)

* *When I was assigned to ADA, we actually OPERATED HF
* *radios...and VHF radios...and UHF radios...and some
* *microwave radios. *Before the 1965 date that the DoD
* *says the USA "got involved" in the Vietnam War. *Not
* *only that, I've got photo and text references to that on a
* *publicly-accessible website. *shrug

Around 1965, I was operating my dad's Philips SW set from Athens,
Greece. *The birthplace of "democraticia" had a King, but no
television broadcasts, and we got our news and entertainment from BBC
and VOA. *The Dutch station had the best music, but who knew what they
were saying?

Hilversum's PCJ is world famous and Eddie Starz was still
alive in 1965. Terrific linguist, could handle most of the
languages himself! "Peace, Cheer, Joy" is what he called
PCJ. Difficult for me to get Holland directly so I tune for
their Netherlands Antilles repeater station.

* *But, David is passing a brick about my being a "newcomer
* *to radio" (after 54 years of that) and I guess we are supposed
* *to let him do that. *[the pain must be excrutiating for him]

Yikes! *That's one rough gall stone!

He's a big guy, ruff and tuff...he can take it.

Anyway, I've passed the 20 year mark in amateur radio, and in ham
years I'm still wet behind the ears... *according to the coded
elitists.

Nobody "better" than the coded elitists. Ask any one of them.

Sigh...there'l be no peace for them until the last coder's key
is pried from their cold, dead fingers. I'll be helping with the
pry bar when it happens. :-)

73, Len AF6AY