"thomas" wrote in message ...
Thank you!

I read the official FCC text carefully. But I'm now even more confused:

"If you operate a radio that has been approved exclusively under the rules
that apply to FRS, you are not required to have a license. FRS radios have a
maximum power of ? watt (500 milliwatt) effective radiated power and
integral (non-detachable) antennas. If you operate a radio under the rules
that apply to GMRS, you must have a GMRS license. GMRS radios generally
transmit at higher power levels (1 to 5 watts is typical) and may have
detachable antennas."

The "FRS" channels were interstitial frequencies of the GMRS in
the first place. That's why GMRS can still use them.

Only a radio specifically designed for FRS applications may be
used license free. Any other radio is GMRS and must be licensed.

If my radio has been approved under both FRS and GMRS, the text above
**seems** to suggest that I may need a license. Can you or someone
clarifies for me?

The only reason I don't want to use GMRS is the license fee. The radio is
very cheap even with GMRS support.

I agree with Phil...Pop for the GMRS license...One day you'll
need it and it will save your bacon...Or at least save you from an FCC
NAL!

73

Steve, K4CAP

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message m...
Only a radio specifically designed for FRS applications may be
used license free. Any other radio is GMRS and must be licensed.

Bull****.

There are MANY FRS/GMRS hybrids on sale at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc. You
CAN use them on the FRS freqs without a license.

You could use them on the GMRS repeater output freqs (and a very few
of the hybrids are even repeater-capable), but they are not very
useful on those frequencies in most environments... so don't bother
using them on those freqs, and don't bother licensing them.

The GMRS capability on the integral-antenna GMRS-FRS hybrids is
bascially a marketing gimmick, created so that the radio manufacturers
can claim "5 MILE RANGE!", and claim "22 FREQUENCIES"!

- Stewart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MURS-OPEN

On 28 Jun 2003 15:54:55 -0700, stewart wrote:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message m...
Only a radio specifically designed for FRS applications may be
used license free. Any other radio is GMRS and must be licensed.

Bull****.

Yes,. "stewart", the rest of your diatribe sure is.

There are MANY FRS/GMRS hybrids on sale at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc.

That is true,

You CAN use them on the FRS freqs without a license.

That is not true.

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
A real communications lawyer who deals
in these interpretations for a living

"Phil Kane" wrote in message . com...

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

Buzz off. You don't know what you are talking about.

On Sun, 28 Jun 2003, stewart wrote:
"Phil Kane" wrote in message . com...

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

Buzz off. You don't know what you are talking about.

Like you do? Your history of posts (on RRAP) clearly shows that you do not.
Go play with your MURS radios and leave FRS alone.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:38:27 GMT, D. Stussy wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2003, stewart wrote:
"Phil Kane" wrote in message . com...

Go and learn a little FCC law in the area of FRS and type
certification and then come back and talk to the folks who do
understand the law.

Buzz off. You don't know what you are talking about.

Like you do? Your history of posts (on RRAP) clearly shows that you do not.
Go play with your MURS radios and leave FRS alone.

Dieter - don't waste your time talking to a jackass who knows
nothing about radio regulatory matters and refuses to learn from
those who do. We're getting nowhere with him - time to break the
link.

30.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane