These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792

As of September 30, 2005:

Novice - 27,651 (4.2%) [decrease of 21,678]
Technician - 271,748 (40.9%) [increase of 66,354)
Technician Plus - 46,248 (7.0%) [decrease of 82,612]
General - 135,902 (20.5%) [increase of 23,225]
Advanced - 75,111 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,671]
Extra - 107,139 (16.1%) [increase of 28,389]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 317,996 (47.9%) [decrease of 16,258]

Total all classes - 663,799 (decrease of 10,993)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792

As of October 15, 2005:

Novice - 27,606 (4.2%) [decrease of 21,723]
Technician - 272,111 (41.0%) [increase of 66,717)
Technician Plus - 45,994 (6.9%) [decrease of 82,866]
General - 135,881 (20.5%) [increase of 23,204]
Advanced - 75,043 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,739]
Extra - 107,178 (16.1%) [increase of 28,428]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,105 (47.9%) [decrease of 16,149]

Total all classes - 663,788 (decrease of 11,004)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792

As of October 31, 2005:

Novice - 27,410 (4.1%) [decrease of 21,919]
Technician - 272,682 (41.1%) [increase of 67,288]
Technician Plus - 45,612 (6.9%) [decrease of 83,258]
General - 135,711 (20.4%) [increase of 23,034]
Advanced - 74,900 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,882]
Extra - 107,216 (16.2%) [increase of 28,466]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,294 (48.0%) [decrease of 15,960]

Total all classes - 663,531 (decrease of 11,261)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Who CHECKS YOUR WORK?

From which website did you obtain this "figures?"

How do you KNOW that all those in the grace period
have NOT renewed?

Without CHECKING those "figures" they would not
be ACCURATE. [very UNprofessional!]

WHY is it "informative" that you must continue to do
the "Speroni Stats" maneuver to "lump" the Technician
classes together?

Tsk, tsk, tsk...quite a "track record of mistakes there..."

bit bit

wrote:
Who CHECKS YOUR WORK?

I do, Len.

Same as you check your work. Except that my "work"
is right out there to be checked.

From which website did you obtain this "figures?"

One that's accessible to anyone willing to look for it.

How do you KNOW that all those in the grace period
have NOT renewed?

By definition, a license in the grace period has not been\
renewed. If it were, it would be counted as a current
license.

The source of these figures downloads the FCC database
every day, and compiles the totals of licenses that are
neither expired nor in the grace period. By comparing these
numbers with those at hamdata.com for the same date, the
approximate number of licenses in the grace period may be
computed.

Without CHECKING those "figures" they would not
be ACCURATE. [very UNprofessional!]

They're at least as accurate as any numbers you post here,
Len. Probably much more accurate because there's no
interpretation needed.

WHY is it "informative" that you must continue to do
the "Speroni Stats" maneuver to "lump" the Technician
classes together?

Because FCC has been renewing all Tech Pluses as Technician for
more than 66 months now. An uninformed person (such as you, Len ;-) )
might misinterpret the big growth in the number of
Technicians unless it were pointed out that the shrinkage in
Tech Pluses is even greater.

The number of Tech Pluses and Techs are listed separately, too.

Note that the total number of Techs/Tech pluses has dropped by almost
16000 since May of 2000, and the percentage has dropped too.

Like it or not....

Tsk, tsk, tsk...quite a "track record of mistakes there..."

Where? The umbers are what they say they are.

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of November 15, 2005:

Novice - 27,303 (4.1%) [decrease of 22,026]
Technician - 273,291 (41.2%) [increase of 67,897]
Technician Plus - 45,263 (6.8%) [decrease of 83,597]
General - 135,676 (20.4%) [increase of 22,999]
Advanced - 74,836 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,946]
Extra - 107,297 (16.2%) [increase of 28,547]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,554 (48.0%) [decrease of 15,700]

Total all classes - 663,666 (decrease of 11,126)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

From: on Nov 16, 5:53 pm

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

As of November 15, 2005:

So, from which website did Jimmie CRIB these numbers?

Does Jimmie know there are OTHER websites with this
information? Jimmie hasn't given those.

Does Jimmie download the FCC database and do his own
sorting and tabulating? If so, he hasn't shown his
work or allowed visibility into the source code of
his sorting-tabulating program.

If these numbers are taken from OTHER sources, Jimmie
should state that source in order to be accurate. Why
is Jimmie HIDING the source of his information?

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of November 30, 2005:

Novice - 26,885 (4.1%) [decrease of 22,444]
Technician - 273,794 (41.4%) [increase of 68,400]
Technician Plus - 44,527 (6.7%) [decrease of 84,333]
General - 135,094 (20.4%) [increase of 22,417]
Advanced - 74,373 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,409]
Extra - 107,281 (16.2%) [increase of 28,531]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,321 (48.1%) [decrease of 15,933]

Total all classes - 661,954 (decrease of 12,838)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote in message
oups.com...
These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of November 30, 2005:

Novice - 26,885 (4.1%) [decrease of 22,444]
Technician - 273,794 (41.4%) [increase of 68,400]
Technician Plus - 44,527 (6.7%) [decrease of 84,333]
General - 135,094 (20.4%) [increase of 22,417]
Advanced - 74,373 (11.2%) [decrease of 25,409]
Extra - 107,281 (16.2%) [increase of 28,531]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,321 (48.1%) [decrease of 15,933]

Total all classes - 661,954 (decrease of 12,838)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

The interesting aspect of the renewed Tech+ as
simply Techs is that from that 4/15/00 date onward there
really is no way for anyone to know if a particular tech
operating in the Novice segments of HF is actually
authorised to do so since the FCC database doesn't
record the prior tech+ status, nor does it reflect
if/when a tech may have obtained a 5wpm CSCE
certificate after 4/15/00.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK

Bill Sohl wrote:
wrote in message
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Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

The interesting aspect of the renewed Tech+ as
simply Techs is that from that 4/15/00 date onward there
really is no way for anyone to know if a particular tech
operating in the Novice segments of HF is actually
authorised to do so since the FCC database doesn't
record the prior tech+ status, nor does it reflect
if/when a tech may have obtained a 5wpm CSCE
certificate after 4/15/00.

Hmmm - are you sure the database doesn't show the
previous license class, Bill?

The only HF privileges allowed to Novices and code-
tested Techs are Morse Code on parts of 80/40/15/10,
and some 10 meter SSB. So if you hear a Tech operating
Morse Code, chances are they could pass the test anyway.
Which only leaves 10 ssb.

If you look at the enforcement letters from FCC, they have gone
after Techs for operating HF in excess of their privileges. But
such violations have always been obvious, like a Tech operating
20 or 40 meter SSB.

I do know that FCC expects Techs who have passed
a code test to retain license documents proving that
fact.

FCC has put some real oddities into the code-tested-Tech rules.

For example, if someone can produce a license document from before
February 14, 1991 that clearly says "Technician", they get credit for
Element 1. If they can produce a license document that clearly says
"Novice" or "Technician Plus", they also get credit for Element 1.
These
rules apply even if the documents are for a license that expired
decades
ago, and even if the person holds no current license.

But a CSCE for Element 1 that is more than 365 days old conveys no test
element
credit at all. Yet if the person with the expired Element 1 CSCE is a
Technician, that
person retains their HF privileges.

Seems to me that FCC expects that active hams who are Techs should
simply get
a General or Extra. If the NPRM is enacted, Techs who are not code
tested will have to get a General or Extra to get any HF at all.

73 de Jim, N2EY