"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote:

Actually, Dwight, the only "place"
that my callsign gets so much
discussion is right here in this
newsgroup. I have been involved
in a lot of stuff since I've had this
callsign--on the air, off the air,
women and men, served agencies,
hundreds of other amateurs. No
where, once, did my callsign ever
get discussed, and there was plenty
of opportunity. (snip)


I don't doubt that, Kim. The debate here only points to how far some in
this newsgroup are out of touch with reality.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Someone came up with a great analogy today, and I don't know why I've never
thought of it before. In fact, maybe y'all won't see this--but I sure do.
Relating the callsign I have to the type of person I am, makes as much sense
as relating the authorship of Stephen King to him being a mass murderer; or
the character of Andy Sipowitz to being the same person as that actor; or Al
Pacino being the exact persons he depicts in his characters (remember the
tirade he goes off on in the movie "Devil's Advocate").

While amateur radio is not an acting venue, it is a
hobby/avocation/distraction/extracurricular activity. The callsign of an
individual in amateur radio, and even the way they act within that venue,
may have nothing at all to do with who or what they are. In fact, many
times when I meet amateurs face-to-face, they are not the person they
"depict" on the air.

Anyway, I liked the scenario...that's my story and I'm sticking to it... ;o

Kim W5TIT

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

(snip) I would hardly refer to what
Riley Hollingsworth so elequently
stated as bringing the ARS "...one
step closer to extinction" as "living
life beautifully." That is the perverted
construct of an equally perverted
mind. (snip)


Do you still have the full text of that message from Hollingsworth,
Larry?
If so, please post a copy so we can all see it. I know you posted it
before,
but that was some time ago.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Man, I wish I had it...I just looked and I don't. I had intereviewed Riley
for a local amateur newsletter and I think the issue of my callsign came up
on this newsgroup about a month or two later. I had posted the entire email
I'd sent to him, and his entire response. Maybe it can be searched on
Google...don't know.

Kim W5TIT

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article . net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

Do you still have the full text of that message from Hollingsworth,
Larry?
If so, please post a copy so we can all see it. I know you posted it
before,
but that was some time ago.

As I recall it, there was NO PROOF that Larrah's "Hollingsworth letter"
was the real thing.

We all have to take Larrah's typed-in words as "truth."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!

LHA / WMD



The words Larry posts are a direct quote from part of Riley Hollingsworth's
response to an email from me.

Kim W5TIT

In article . net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:


Do you still have the full text of that message from Hollingsworth, Larry?
If so, please post a copy so we can all see it. I know you posted it before,
but that was some time ago.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

Axe and ye shall receive:

Subject: Riley sez Kim taking the ARS "One step closer to extinction"
From: ospam (Larry Roll K3LT)
Date: 08 Jun 2000 14:37:47 GMT

In article 59B7203A07395FF0.50F2CC864D4ED7FE.54A4CB093D32584 ,
"Kim W5TIT" writes:


Probably more a thoughtful wish of the prefix I wish I'd been able to get.

Kim:

Huh? This was even harder to decipher than your usually indecipherable
writing. Anyone who has survived elementary school grammar should
know it's best not to use a word like "wish" more than once in a
sentence -- particularly if it can be used as either a noun or a verb.
This causes confusion. However, since confusion seems to be your
normal state, I guess you think you can get away with it!

[THIS IS THE PART WHERE KIM QUOTES THE PART OF RILEY'S
E-MAIL WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD:]


Speaking of callsigns, here's Riley's response after I wrote and told him I
was sorry for bothering him, since the FCC had already spoken on callsigns
at the Dayton Hamfest (the rest of the email is also with it):

While that's true, just because a person has a right to do something doesn't
mean it's right to do it on every occasion. While the call sign may fit the
constitution, for every instance where a parent or uncle or grandparent
doesn't want a young person to get involved in Ham Radio because of
something they hear on the bands, then you have taken the ARS one step
closer to extinction. Then we can sit around and debate what happened to
all those Amateur frequencies that industry bought at auction---debating, of
course, on the internet and cellular because that'll be all we have left.
The first amendment will still be alive and well, just as it is now, tho, if
that's any consolation.

Interesting. Sooo, Kim -- are you going to change your call sign
voluntarily, or are you going to, as Riley said, continue to take the ARS
"one step closer to extinction?" Think about it!

Years ago, I would have fought tooth and nail to preserve every single
kiloHertz of ham radio spectrum. However, because of the proliferation of
so-called "hams" like you, Kim, I now support the concept of wholesale
re-allocation of amateur radio spectrum to commercial broadcasting
and utility communications services which can make much more
productive, profitable, and socially beneficial use of it! As hams, we've
blown it -- big time -- and you, your attitude, and your callsign are the
best and most readily available example of every bad thing ham radio
has become!

Sooo -- enjoy your callsign. The FCC won't force you to change it --
that is something that can only come from you -- should you decide
to become a Real Ham and stop giving the rest of us a bad image!
I have complete confidence that you can change if you want to -- but
the action to do so must come out of your decision to do what's
right for people other than yourself.

73 de Larry, K3LT

Kim W5TIT wrote:



Someone came up with a great analogy today, and I don't know why I've never
thought of it before. In fact, maybe y'all won't see this--but I sure do.
Relating the callsign I have to the type of person I am, makes as much sense
as relating the authorship of Stephen King to him being a mass murderer; or
the character of Andy Sipowitz to being the same person as that actor; or Al
Pacino being the exact persons he depicts in his characters (remember the
tirade he goes off on in the movie "Devil's Advocate").

Spin it anyway you wish, the choice of that callsign shows a complete
lack of taste.

"KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net...
"William" wrote


I understand that you would -knowingly- work a ham out of band.


Dear Little Billy Beeper,

I will not go out of my band allocation to work anyone, but I will work
anyone with an amateur radio callsign who calls me inside my band
allocations.

Even when you know -they- are out of band?

Kim W5TIT wrote:

I happen not to believe
that my callsign shows a lack of taste.

To someone with no taste I imagine it wouldn't. You really should think
about operating on CB, you're their kid of gal.

"JJ" wrote in message
...
Kim W5TIT wrote:



Someone came up with a great analogy today, and I don't know why I've
never
thought of it before. In fact, maybe y'all won't see this--but I sure
do.
Relating the callsign I have to the type of person I am, makes as much
sense
as relating the authorship of Stephen King to him being a mass murderer;
or
the character of Andy Sipowitz to being the same person as that actor;
or Al
Pacino being the exact persons he depicts in his characters (remember
the
tirade he goes off on in the movie "Devil's Advocate").

Spin it anyway you wish, the choice of that callsign shows a complete
lack of taste.


JJ, are you *really* that desperate? No spin at all, I happen to agree with
the analogy. If you don't, that's your preference. I happen not to believe
that my callsign shows a lack of taste. If you do, that's your preference.
Either way, it's my call, I like it, you don't have to, and that's all there
is to it.

Now, if it's such an issue for you, to continue looking at it, dealing with
it, in any way thinking about it is your choice to stay upset about it.
That's your choice too, 'magine dat!

Kim W5TIT

"JJ" wrote in message
...
Kim W5TIT wrote:

I happen not to believe
that my callsign shows a lack of taste.

To someone with no taste I imagine it wouldn't. You really should think
about operating on CB, you're their kid of gal.


OK, I see, you are that desperate...and you're also obsessed. Oh well.
Have a really happy life, JJ, or at least try to!

Kim W5TIT

In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article . net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

Do you still have the full text of that message from Hollingsworth,
Larry?
If so, please post a copy so we can all see it. I know you posted it
before,
but that was some time ago.

As I recall it, there was NO PROOF that Larrah's "Hollingsworth letter"
was the real thing.

We all have to take Larrah's typed-in words as "truth."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!

LHA / WMD

The words Larry posts are a direct quote from part of Riley Hollingsworth's
response to an email from me.

Thank you, Kim. Correction noted.

I'm still chuckling at the thought that Larrah had some correspondence
with the FCC about another's callsign. [at least I'm not laughing
maniacially anymore...today...:-) ]

BWahaha...oops... [sorry, that one slipped out...]

LHA / WMD