In article .net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

"N2EY" wrote:

"Dwight Stewart" writes:
(snip) haven't seen one person of the
child rearing age group voice a single
complaint about this in this newsgroup.

Yes, you have.

Okay, how about in the "typical" child rearing age group.

What age group is that? I know people ranging in age from '20s to '50s who are
raising small children.

The days when the nests were all empty by the time Mom and Dad hit 50 are long
gone, Dwight. And that's in "typical" America.

How old are you now? 49?

Yup. My birthday is qrz.com.

How many young, impressionable, children do you have running
around your house?

Why does that matter? You may have noticed that I don't talk about my domestic
situation here.

Suppose, just suppose, that I have 5 children ranging in age from toddlers to
teenagers. (I don't, but that's not the point). Would you then say I was right
and Kim's call was inappropriate?

Larry is not exactly a young spring chicken either.

He's a little older. So what? And Larry and I are not the only ones.

People have all kids of family situations these days. Blended families,
"second" families, adoptions, people raising or helping to raise their
grandchildren, etc. etc. etc.

How do you know how old somebody's
grandchildren or children are, Dwight?

Speculation based on typical child birth trends in this country.

And your source is?

How old are these "old men"?

Lets see. You're about 49. Larry has to be pushing about 50. I'm 50. Who
else?

Do you consider that to be "old"? I don't. I consider it to be "middle aged".

I run 35-40 minutes every morning. Last week my running log shows 268 minutes
for the week. You know any "old men" who do that?

I simply say it's inappropriate for
ham radio, that's all.

Do you think it's appropriate?

Kim's callsign or the word alone?

Both. I say neither is appropriate.

Kim's callsign is only as vulgar as you,
the person hearing it, makes it.

Have I *ever* said it was vulgar?

And I didn't say you said it was vulgar.

You and Kim keep using the term "vukgar" rather than addressing whether it's
"appropriate".

So your values have to be everyone
else's?

Don't be silly. I never said that either.

It's implied by your statements.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote:

The days when the nests were all
empty by the time Mom and Dad
hit 50 are long gone, Dwight. And
that's in "typical" America.


That may be typical in your world. However, I haven't met a single 40 or
50 year old recently with a young child. In fact, I only remember meeting
one in my entire life - a couple with an adopted child. Whatever the case, I
haven't seen it to be commonplace.


Why does that matter? You may have
noticed that I don't talk about my
domestic situation here.


It matters only in the context of the discussion - how many in our age
group have young children.


Suppose, just suppose, that I have 5
children ranging in age from toddlers to
teenagers. (I don't, but that's not the
point). Would you then say I was right
and Kim's call was inappropriate?


Have those supposed children also talked to Kim on the radio, hearing her
callsign and making something out of it? Lets not discuss hypothetical
situations, Jim. Anything can be justified or condemned using that.


And your source is?


Fifty years of life, meeting thousands in that period.


Do you consider that to be "old"?
I don't. I consider it to be "middle
aged".


Forty or fifty is certainly not young.


Both. I say neither is appropriate.


Appropriate for what? As I said earlier, it's not my job to decide what is
appropriate for others in this world, or demand they conform to my ideas of
what is appropriate.


You and Kim keep using the term
"vukgar" rather than addressing
whether it's "appropriate".


I've addressed the issue of appropriateness several times.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
nk.net...
"N2EY" wrote:

The days when the nests were all
empty by the time Mom and Dad
hit 50 are long gone, Dwight. And
that's in "typical" America.

That may be typical in your world. However, I haven't met a single 40 or
50 year old recently with a young child. In fact, I only remember meeting
one in my entire life - a couple with an adopted child. Whatever the case,
I
haven't seen it to be commonplace.


I know one guy from work that has his granddaughter living with him. Whew!
Man, that would be hell on earth in my opinion! I have raised kids and it
ain't happenin' again--at least not unless there are extremely unusual
circumstances. And, if the parents think they're moving back in...pah!!!!

There's one gal I know, who might even be a couple of years older than me,
who has around a nine year old daughter. And, it was deliberate! But, even
of people who are just acquaintences, that's all I know.


Why does that matter? You may have
noticed that I don't talk about my
domestic situation here.

It matters only in the context of the discussion - how many in our age
group have young children.

Suppose, just suppose, that I have 5
children ranging in age from toddlers to
teenagers. (I don't, but that's not the
point). Would you then say I was right
and Kim's call was inappropriate?

Have those supposed children also talked to Kim on the radio, hearing
her
callsign and making something out of it? Lets not discuss hypothetical
situations, Jim. Anything can be justified or condemned using that.


I'd only answer that my callsign is not inappropriate under any
circumstance. The word tit is (for the air on the ARS); however, the word
tit is never used by me...and I've never heard it used by anyone else.


And your source is?


Fifty years of life, meeting thousands in that period.


I've a feeling if it ain't issued from some form of almanac, governmental
statistic, or otherwise recorable device, it ain't acceptable as fact.


Do you consider that to be "old"?
I don't. I consider it to be "middle
aged".


Forty or fifty is certainly not young.


I don't think it's old, either, Dwight...and good heavens I certainly don't
act it!


Both. I say neither is appropriate.


Appropriate for what? As I said earlier, it's not my job to decide what
is
appropriate for others in this world, or demand they conform to my ideas
of
what is appropriate.


You and Kim keep using the term
"vukgar" rather than addressing
whether it's "appropriate".


I've addressed the issue of appropriateness several times.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Yeah, I'd lay odds that this thread was "awakened" again this (late last)
year by Larry, mid-Winter boredom or whatever, and it's about the usual time
for it to be dying down.

Kim W5TIT

"Kim W5TIT" wrote:
"Dwight Stewart" wrote:

Forty or fifty is certainly not young.


I don't think it's old, either, Dwight...and
good heavens I certainly don't act it!


Amazing how our concepts of "old" changes as we age. Decades ago, all of
us thought 30 was old. Now "old" is something we're not. :-)


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

In article .net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

Decades ago, all of
us thought 30 was old.

Not me!

Now "old" is something we're not. :-)

Well, it's something *I'm* not.

You're the one describing 40 and 50 somethings as "old men" ;-)

73 de Jim, N2EY.

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
"Dwight
Stewart" writes:
Now "old" is something we're not. :-)

Well, it's something *I'm* not.

You're the one describing 40 and 50 somethings as "old men" ;-)

73 de Jim, N2EY.

At 71, I've got to assume I'm beginnint to get "old". I'm not
ashamed of it, though. Heck, I went to a heluva lot of trouble
to get this old.

Harold
KD5SAK

Harold Burton wrote:
"N2EY" wrote in message
...

In article .net,

"Dwight

Stewart" writes:
Now "old" is something we're not. :-)

Well, it's something *I'm* not.

You're the one describing 40 and 50 somethings as "old men" ;-)

73 de Jim, N2EY.


At 71, I've got to assume I'm beginnint to get "old". I'm not
ashamed of it, though. Heck, I went to a heluva lot of trouble
to get this old.


Well Harold, You're *starting* to creep up on it! ;^) Don't look at it
as old though, call it "well seasoned".


- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

Yeah, I'd lay odds that this thread was "awakened" again this (late last)
year by Larry, mid-Winter boredom or whatever, and it's about the usual time
for it to be dying down.

Kim W5TIT

Kim:

That sounds like wishful thinking. However, you asked for it, and as long
as you've got it, you're gonna get it! This thread has a life of it's own, and
as long as I am a participant in this newsgroup, it will always pop up
whenever you least expect it.

73 de Larry, K3LT

"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
...
In article , "Kim W5TIT"

writes:

Yeah, I'd lay odds that this thread was "awakened" again this (late last)
year by Larry, mid-Winter boredom or whatever, and it's about the usual
time
for it to be dying down.

Kim W5TIT

Kim:

That sounds like wishful thinking. However, you asked for it, and as long
as you've got it, you're gonna get it! This thread has a life of it's
own, and
as long as I am a participant in this newsgroup, it will always pop up
whenever you least expect it.

73 de Larry, K3LT


I think you're beyond "popping up," Larry...

Kim W5TIT

In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

Kim:

That sounds like wishful thinking. However, you asked for it, and as long
as you've got it, you're gonna get it! This thread has a life of it's
own, and
as long as I am a participant in this newsgroup, it will always pop up
whenever you least expect it.

73 de Larry, K3LT


I think you're beyond "popping up," Larry...

Kim W5TIT

Kim:

Now just exactly what do you mean by that? Remember, that as someone
who has accused others of having "dirty minds" when it comes to your
call sign, you'd better be pretty careful how you answer!

Oh, now I get it. Well, when you are around, I can understand how such
things would be unlikely to "pop."

73 de Larry, K3LT