JJ wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:



You forgot to add Kim's callsign!


I suppose the Super Bowl half-time act with Janet Jackson and the other
moron singing with her was just the kind of low class, crass act kim
really enjoys. Maybe kim should loan Jackson her callsign.

Now that you've started it, here is a little demonstration:

Go to www.google.com . Go to the image search. Search on Janet
Jackson. Observe the pictures that pop up.

Now try to reconcile what you have just seen with CBS and MTV and the
NFL' denial of any knowledge of the ugly little stunt. (yes it was ugly
- that creepy outfit she wore looked like some 1970's lingerie from
behind the iron curtain, and what the heck was that ugly thing on her
breast? - shudder!)

They knew! And the halftime show, which used to be the way for the NFL
to get women that were not interested in football to watch the show has
now changed. My guess is that there will be plenty of men watching the
halftime show next year.

Even if they didn't know this was going to happen, the people they
hired to do the show, MTV, is pretty steeped in sleaze. Note that MTV is
owned by the same company that owns CBS. So ignorance of the act would
be admission of stupidity.

Maybe they'll have porn stars next year.


And lest we forget, Kid Rock comes out in a desecrated US Flag with a
hole cut in the middle. Pretty damn despicable! Is this what the
superbowl is about? I can only assume that the NFL approves of this kind
of disrespectful behavior, and if we watch the trash they spew, we do as
well!
- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Kid Rock comes out in a desecrated US Flag with a
hole cut in the middle. Pretty

[expletive deleted]

despicable!

I agree 100%.

When the halftime show started I changed the channel. Flipped back at one point
and saw "Kid", flipped back to something else. Missed JJ - no big loss.

Note that the flap over her "wardrobe malfunction" has deflected attention from
that flag desecration.

Is this what the
superbowl is about? I can only assume that the NFL approves of this kind
of disrespectful behavior, and if we watch the trash they spew, we do as
well!

I think it's evidence of a basic law of entertainment physics: "conservation of
goodstuff". IOW there's only so much good programming. Some years back,
the superbowl consisted mostly of rather unexciting games but really good shows
and commercials. Then the games got better and the shows and commercials worse.


It's not just the superbowl - most of what's on broadcast TV is JUNK. Pure and
simple. If some people in the LA area are offended - tough.

The irony of the situation is that the people who are really responsible won't
be fined, but the stations who simply carried the network feed will be.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , (N2EY)
writes:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Kid Rock comes out in a desecrated US Flag with a
hole cut in the middle. Pretty

[expletive deleted]

despicable!

I agree 100%.

When the halftime show started I changed the channel. Flipped back at one
point
and saw "Kid", flipped back to something else. Missed JJ - no big loss.

Note that the flap over her "wardrobe malfunction" has deflected attention
from
that flag desecration.

Is this what the
superbowl is about? I can only assume that the NFL approves of this kind
of disrespectful behavior, and if we watch the trash they spew, we do as
well!

You must have missed the Official Oath of Allegiance to the ARRL
given by Dave Sumner at the beginning.

I think it's evidence of a basic law of entertainment physics: "conservation
of
goodstuff".

Did you want BOTH of them exposed? :-)

IOW there's only so much good programming. Some years back,
the superbowl consisted mostly of rather unexciting games but really good
shows
and commercials. Then the games got better and the shows and commercials
worse.

Write the FCC and make Riley take away their amateur radio license!

Get tough!

It's not just the superbowl - most of what's on broadcast TV is JUNK. Pure and
simple. If some people in the LA area are offended - tough.

Right! Old Monty Python shows from the BBC! The only good stuff!

Forget things like the Hallmark Hall series, all [expletive deleteds].
Forget things like Live From Lincoln Center specials, all [more
expletive deleteds]. Forget things like a good American football game
going very, very close to the end, saved by a 41-yard field goal at the
last minute. That's so much [expletive deleted] nonsense.

The irony of the situation is that the people who are really responsible won't
be fined, but the stations who simply carried the network feed will be.

Ah, for the days of Big Bill Allen and angry letters to newspapers!

Write your Division Manager and complain!

Tell them not to feed the SuperBowl to the NTS!

Make all the teams and officials take morse code tests!

Remember, morse code gets through when everything else will.

LHA / WMD

Remember, morse code gets through when everything else will.

LHA / WMD

Good one Len ..... have to remember it ....

God Bless KI3R Tom Popovic Belle Vernon Pa.

In article 72zVb.255754$na.417263@attbi_s04, "garigue"
writes:

Remember, morse code gets through when everything else will.

LHA / WMD

Good one Len ..... have to remember it ....

Credit Brian Burke with the phrase. He had that truism right,
worthy of repeating. :-)

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Remember, morse code gets through when everything else will.

Moreover, it gets through when almost nothing else will! This makes it a
mode which all radio amateurs wishing to possess total communications
capability simply cannot ignore. It is well worth the time and effort it takes
to learn.


LHA / WMD

Good one Len ..... have to remember it ....

Credit Brian Burke with the phrase. He had that truism right,
worthy of repeating. :-)

Brian was right, Lennie, but he left out the last part I just added! Sorry,
still no cigar for you and Brian!

73 de Larry, K3LT

On 08 Feb 2004 18:49:36 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

snip

Remember, morse code gets through when everything else will.

.....That line still makes me laugh every time I read it!

I understand that Morse is good for getting through poor conditions
better than voice. Makes sense, it is narrowband and binary (well,
tri-state if you count the spaces...) encoded. From the experimenting
(read: fooling around) that I have been doing over the past couple of
months, I have been repeatedly amazed with the ability of BPSK-31 to
get clean copy through pretty bad conditions. Even DX signals that
appear as weak vestiges on the waterfall display can be easily decoded
with near 100% accuracy, using just a PC sound card as an interface.
Frequency stability of my old Heath TX is a problem, but I'm working
on it.....

Now there's something that will get through when nothing else will.
And, it types itself out, too. (that's a real boon for the perennially
lazy - like me)

I believe that BPSK-31 was created within the amateur community -
there must have been similar narrowband technologies used by the
military which predated it - any idea what they were?


LHA / WMD


73, Leo

Leo wrote in message . ..

I understand that Morse is good for getting through poor conditions
better than voice.

Much better than any form of analog voice.

Makes sense, it is narrowband and binary (well,
tri-state if you count the spaces...) encoded.

Exactly.

From the experimenting
(read: fooling around) that I have been doing over the past couple of
months, I have been repeatedly amazed with the ability of BPSK-31 to
get clean copy through pretty bad conditions. Even DX signals that
appear as weak vestiges on the waterfall display can be easily decoded
with near 100% accuracy, using just a PC sound card as an interface.

The soundcard is only part of the system. The decoder is quite smart,
in that
it stores and examines the received data and does a "best fit"
decoder. You can read all about it at several websites.

But it's important to realize what constitutes "poor conditions".
Against purely amplitude noise it's quite robust. But against phase
noise of various
types it is not robust at all. All depends on the situation.

Frequency stability of my old Heath TX is a problem, but I'm working
on it.....

What rig is it?

Now there's something that will get through when nothing else will.

Not really. You will find times when the PSK-31 signal is clearly
audible in the speaker, well above the background amplitude noise, but
the decoder cannot make sense of it because the phase distortion is
too bad.

And, it types itself out, too. (that's a real boon for the perennially
lazy - like me)

It was meant as a replacement for conventional RTTY - as a "keyboard
to keyboard" mode. For example, the speed was chosen to be about what
*average* conversational keyboarding hams use.

btw, the code used in PSK-31 uses shorter symbols for the most common
characters and longer ones for the least common. Just like Morse code,
which is where the designers got the idea.

I believe that BPSK-31 was created within the amateur community -

Yup - G3PLX, and a number of folks who helped him by testing it out on
the air and others who have developed software packages. A local ham
of my acquaintance (one of those longtime 20 wpm 1x2 Extras with
multiple EE degrees - we share two alma maters, btw) was one of the
team who helped test it out.

PSK-31 is another great tool in the toolbox, but not a replacement for
good old Morse Code.

73 de Jim, N2EY

On 9 Feb 2004 15:25:04 -0800, (N2EY) wrote:

Leo wrote in message . ..

I understand that Morse is good for getting through poor conditions
better than voice.

Much better than any form of analog voice.

Makes sense, it is narrowband and binary (well,
tri-state if you count the spaces...) encoded.

Exactly.

From the experimenting
(read: fooling around) that I have been doing over the past couple of
months, I have been repeatedly amazed with the ability of BPSK-31 to
get clean copy through pretty bad conditions. Even DX signals that
appear as weak vestiges on the waterfall display can be easily decoded
with near 100% accuracy, using just a PC sound card as an interface.

The soundcard is only part of the system. The decoder is quite smart,
in that
it stores and examines the received data and does a "best fit"
decoder. You can read all about it at several websites.

Good point - I've compared it to RTTY from the decoding standpoint -
RTTY seems to be much more prone to losing characters or dropping out
entirely when the signal is weak or noise is high.


But it's important to realize what constitutes "poor conditions".
Against purely amplitude noise it's quite robust. But against phase
noise of various
types it is not robust at all. All depends on the situation.


Frequency stability of my old Heath TX is a problem, but I'm working
on it.....

What rig is it?

Heath SB-400. The Pride of 1964

With a narrowband signal like this, it doesn't take much drift! I'm
seeing a frequency decrease of up to 15 Hz, beginning a few seconds
after keying. B+ to the VFO appears to be well regulated - maybe not
tight enough though. Might have to replace the 0A2 with a few zeners
- haven't tried that yet....


Now there's something that will get through when nothing else will.

Not really. You will find times when the PSK-31 signal is clearly
audible in the speaker, well above the background amplitude noise, but
the decoder cannot make sense of it because the phase distortion is
too bad.

Haven't experienced that yet - at least when I see that, I'll know
what is causing it!


And, it types itself out, too. (that's a real boon for the perennially
lazy - like me)

It was meant as a replacement for conventional RTTY - as a "keyboard
to keyboard" mode. For example, the speed was chosen to be about what
*average* conversational keyboarding hams use.

btw, the code used in PSK-31 uses shorter symbols for the most common
characters and longer ones for the least common. Just like Morse code,
which is where the designers got the idea.

Didn't know that - great idea, though!


I believe that BPSK-31 was created within the amateur community -

Yup - G3PLX, and a number of folks who helped him by testing it out on
the air and others who have developed software packages. A local ham
of my acquaintance (one of those longtime 20 wpm 1x2 Extras with
multiple EE degrees - we share two alma maters, btw) was one of the
team who helped test it out.

PSK-31 is another great tool in the toolbox, but not a replacement for
good old Morse Code.

Haven't formulated an opinion on that one yet - stay tuned!


73 de Jim, N2EY

73, Leo

"Leo" wrote in message
...
On 9 Feb 2004 15:25:04 -0800, (N2EY) wrote:

Leo wrote in message
. ..

I understand that Morse is good for getting through poor conditions
better than voice.

Much better than any form of analog voice.

Makes sense, it is narrowband and binary (well,
tri-state if you count the spaces...) encoded.

Exactly.

From the experimenting
(read: fooling around) that I have been doing over the past couple of
months, I have been repeatedly amazed with the ability of BPSK-31 to
get clean copy through pretty bad conditions. Even DX signals that
appear as weak vestiges on the waterfall display can be easily decoded
with near 100% accuracy, using just a PC sound card as an interface.

The soundcard is only part of the system. The decoder is quite smart,
in that
it stores and examines the received data and does a "best fit"
decoder. You can read all about it at several websites.

Good point - I've compared it to RTTY from the decoding standpoint -
RTTY seems to be much more prone to losing characters or dropping out
entirely when the signal is weak or noise is high.


But it's important to realize what constitutes "poor conditions".
Against purely amplitude noise it's quite robust. But against phase
noise of various
types it is not robust at all. All depends on the situation.


Frequency stability of my old Heath TX is a problem, but I'm working
on it.....

What rig is it?

Heath SB-400. The Pride of 1964

With a narrowband signal like this, it doesn't take much drift! I'm
seeing a frequency decrease of up to 15 Hz, beginning a few seconds
after keying. B+ to the VFO appears to be well regulated - maybe not
tight enough though. Might have to replace the 0A2 with a few zeners
- haven't tried that yet....


Now there's something that will get through when nothing else will.

Not really. You will find times when the PSK-31 signal is clearly
audible in the speaker, well above the background amplitude noise, but
the decoder cannot make sense of it because the phase distortion is
too bad.

Haven't experienced that yet - at least when I see that, I'll know
what is causing it!


And, it types itself out, too. (that's a real boon for the perennially
lazy - like me)

It was meant as a replacement for conventional RTTY - as a "keyboard
to keyboard" mode. For example, the speed was chosen to be about what
*average* conversational keyboarding hams use.

btw, the code used in PSK-31 uses shorter symbols for the most common
characters and longer ones for the least common. Just like Morse code,
which is where the designers got the idea.

Didn't know that - great idea, though!


I believe that BPSK-31 was created within the amateur community -

Yup - G3PLX, and a number of folks who helped him by testing it out on
the air and others who have developed software packages. A local ham
of my acquaintance (one of those longtime 20 wpm 1x2 Extras with
multiple EE degrees - we share two alma maters, btw) was one of the
team who helped test it out.

PSK-31 is another great tool in the toolbox, but not a replacement for
good old Morse Code.

Haven't formulated an opinion on that one yet - stay tuned!


73 de Jim, N2EY

73, Leo


Just to add to information, I heard a couple of hams talking shortly after
the major solar flares of this past fall were finally over. They had
commented on the fact that the distortion on PSK31 was so bad that they had
had to switch to Morse.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE