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"Kim W5TIT" writes: It is extremely disappointing to me to see that this hobby is so populated by people who are so pleased with themselves. . . [snip] Ridiculous. All achievements encourage pride, which in some translates into arrogance. If we beefed up the written tests, and eliminated CW, then the arrogance would remain. It's the nature of the beast. True, there are always those that are arrogant. However, is it possible that the CW testing requirement enhances one's tendency to do that? Over time, the CW testing has (by many hams) been a filtering device. . .. [snip] Barriers to entry have their uses. All the best organizations have them. Compare CB radio, which has none. I'd have to see some examples. I was not aware that "filtering" was that widely in use. As amateur radio operators we are ambassadors of the United States. That's just a piece of rhetoric, used to help justify allocation of spectrum by a post-world-war congress. Hams represent only themselves. Well, I don't take it as a piece of rhetoric. I take it seriously. I am happy to have *anyone* in the hobby--even those with not-so-great-operating practices, . . . [snip] Basically agree, depending what "not-so-great" means exactly. :-) Regards, Len. There are those who get all upset over things such as someone saying "10-4" or "turn my house around," etc. Or those that habitually just make a call without checking to see if a freq is in use, etc. Kim W5TIT Sorry so short, but I've seen a few of my posts today that have some error related to being too long... |
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"Kim W5TIT" writes:
wrote: ...If we beefed up the written tests, and eliminated CW, then the arrogance would remain. It's the nature of the beast. True, there are always those that are arrogant. However, is it possible that the CW testing requirement enhances one's tendency to do that? I doubt it--people are arrogant that they can drive a stick-shift. I think anything that takes effort to attain, becomes a point of pride--even if it's only the ability to spit into a cup without missing. Barriers to entry have their uses. All the best organizations have them. Compare CB radio, which has none. I'd have to see some examples. I was not aware that "filtering" was that widely in use. They're in very wide use. The Army has physical exams and boot camp. These reflect operational needs, but any DI will tell you that there's more to it than that, and that a primary aspect of boot camp is the hazing. Many organizations use rank in this way; the various scouting organizations, the elks, masons, the Grange, etc. Many organizations, if not most, have an induction process followed by a loyalty oath; the masons again, most religions, fraternities, the Mafia. In the case of fraternities and the like, the induction process involves hazing and tests of loyalty. In the case of religions, the masons, the grange, etc., the induction process involves revealing secrets, along with tests of loyalty. In the case of Mensa, it involves taking an IQ test. (It should be noted that this tiny requirement doesn't do much: most Mensa members never attend a single meeting.) Those organizations that demand various sorts of effort from their members tend to receive the most loyalty. (I remember when CB was pretty clean--even though the required license was a formality. My parents let us use it freely, and the only problem we really saw was congestion.) That's just a piece of rhetoric, used to help justify allocation of spectrum by a post-world-war congress. Hams represent only themselves. Well, I don't take it as a piece of rhetoric. I take it seriously. I'm glad; it can only have a positive impact on one's conduct. Though I wonder what your callsign tells our muslim neighbors about America, ambassador W5TIT? ;-/ Basically agree, depending what "not-so-great" means exactly. :-) There are those who get all upset over things such as someone saying "10-4"... Anyone who says "10-4", and isn't a cop, is a poser[*]. The only correct response is "Roger Dodger, copy that." Regards, Len. [*] Anyone who spells it "poseur", is also a poser. |
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