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"Dick Carroll" wrote in message ... Larry Roll K3LT wrote: In article , Dick Carroll writes: No, I certainly do not. If someone wants to only operate cw, only ssb, only 2 meter FM, then fine, and they are just as much a ham as someone who operates multiple modes. So a ham who operates all modes except that he cannot operate radiotlegraphy because he doewn't know Morse code, is just as well qualified as a ham who operates all those and also can operate radiotelegraphy. Surely you can understand the fallacy of your own argument, all other considerations aside. Dick: An even greater fallacy is the notion that "hams" who operate only 2-meters FM (which probably defines at least 80 percent of "hams" licensed since 1991) is "qualified" as an amateur radio operator! At the risk of sounding Kim-like, ROTFLMAO!!! Were it not for the occasional usefulness of the 2-meter band to "real" ham radio operators like you and me, I'd suggest that it be separated from the licensing structure and just be given away to anyone who can afford a transceiver. Of course, we've already gone most of the way to doing just that, and we still don't see any real growth in the numbers of licensed amateurs. Larry, when you trim all the BS off the no-code position, all that's left is that they refuse to even acknowledge that the first existing, most basic mode of radiocommunications is even a viable mode of radiocommunications! Much less that it is the simplest, easiest to implement and one of the very most efficient modes! If it weren't so downright silly it'd be funny. But that's what ham radio had degenerated into. In what way have we ever not acknowledged that CW was the first mode, or that it is simple, or that it can be used by hams today (i.e. viable). Bottom line is so what...that does NOT justify any need for a code test. That's what is so downright silly. YOU want every new ham to have to learn CW on the hope that some percentage will like CW enough to become a user. You are (IMHO) clearly not up to the task of recruiting new hams by proactively advocating CW use. Cheers, Bill K2UNK |