Trolls suck. Ignore them.

SO in that light....


Is radio a great hobby? I sure think so. How about you?


TS

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:44:44 +0100, "citizensband"
wrote:

Time to stop whinging, and face the facts...Real Technology has overtaken
you all!

You poor troll. Don't you have anything to sell or auction? And, on
the chance that you really are a CBer, did we not make it simple
enough for you to get a ham license. The requirements are so minimal
now that a two year old could get a ticket. You ought to try it.

Yes, I agree!! Furthermore, I think, IMHO, that that is what this newsgroup
should continue to be about---the exchange of valuable information and the
education of those less versed but definitely interested ones (people like
me) in the ways of the firebottle. People who are intelligent enough to be
interested in 50 year old (or more), 50 lb. (or more) pieces of radio
equipment usually are intelligent enough to refrain from senseless flaming.
Those with more neanderthal sloping foreheads are the ones who seem to knock
what we do. There's ideas to be shared, and tips to be learned in keeping
these fine old pieces of gear WORKING!!


Is radio a great hobby? I sure think so. How about you?

citizensband wrote:
All the garbage about how you should even be allowed to operate a CB, unless
you are able to build your own equipment. Real Hams will never be able to
build a rig that even comes close to what's available off the shelf these
days. Most people can't even be bothered, have no interest or don't have the
time to build rigs anymore. Boatanchors should be used for exactly that,
anchoring boats!

Actually, the neat thing is that current technology makes homebrewing
more fun than ever! I can now build one hell of a nice receiver using
DSP technology and doing most of the IF processing in the digital domain,
using off the shelf stuff. And I can get performance that beats anything
on the shelf right now.

What I want right now, though, is a PLL on a chip that will take a simple
BCD or binary encoded frequency, and produce an unmodulated carrier. I
would be surprised if someone hasn't built something like that already
using one of those Sanyo mask-programmed microprocessors with the PLL on
the chip like a lot of CBs use today. Doesn't have to be a PLL, it could
be DDS too, but I want a single chip synthesizer that will tune 160 through
10 meters continuously and I'd like to avoid the microprocessor interface.

Time to stop whinging, and face the facts...Real Technology has overtaken
you all!

Whinging? I'm not winging, I'm having a great time! Real technology
makes this a great time to be a ham.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I must say, that sounds very impressive, although I really do doubt that he
understood all that......or is that the intent?


Actually, the neat thing is that current technology makes homebrewing
more fun than ever! I can now build one hell of a nice receiver using
DSP technology and doing most of the IF processing in the digital domain,
using off the shelf stuff. And I can get performance that beats anything
on the shelf right now.

What I want right now, though, is a PLL on a chip that will take a simple
BCD or binary encoded frequency, and produce an unmodulated carrier. I
would be surprised if someone hasn't built something like that already
using one of those Sanyo mask-programmed microprocessors with the PLL on
the chip like a lot of CBs use today. Doesn't have to be a PLL, it could
be DDS too, but I want a single chip synthesizer that will tune 160
through
10 meters continuously and I'd like to avoid the microprocessor interface.

Time to stop whinging, and face the facts...Real Technology has overtaken
you all!

Whinging? I'm not winging, I'm having a great time! Real technology
makes this a great time to be a ham.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Opara Kvijji wrote:
I must say, that sounds very impressive, although I really do doubt that he
understood all that......or is that the intent?

I dunno, if one person understands it and happens to have a source for PLLs,
I'll be happy.

It's true, though, that I can go to the trash bins down the street, and pick
up VCRs with wideband electronics that will carry from DC to 4 MHz, TV sets
with great digital tuner stages, really slick sweep amplifier stages that
can put out decent power across the whole HF band, and all kinds of nifty
stuff. People complain about technology today making homebrewing impossible,
but frankly I would have given my eyeteeth for this sort of salvage when
I was a kid.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"Ged" wrote in message
...
In message ,
citizensband writes
All the garbage about how you should even be allowed to operate a CB,
unless
you are able to build your own equipment. Real Hams will never be able to
build a rig that even comes close to what's available off the shelf these
days. Most people can't even be bothered, have no interest or don't have
the
time to build rigs anymore. Boatanchors should be used for exactly that,
anchoring boats!

Time to stop whinging, and face the facts...Real Technology has overtaken
you all!

tox



Spoken like a true brain-dead CB-er.
--
Ged

Spoken like a brain-dead 'alleged' Ham, who thinks radio revolves around a
soldering iron...it doesn't anymore. Things are changing, look what has
happened to the Morse assessment! Even the RSGB have had the good sense to
move into the twenty first century!

HTH
tox

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:44:44 +0100, "citizensband"
wrote:


Time to stop whinging, and face the facts...Real Technology has overtaken
you all!

oh ?

i thought it was about the person behind the mic (key / camera )
and that persons permission to self-train in the art of
communications.


never did i think that AMATEUR RADIO was about technology.

On 16 Jul 2003 18:53:15 GMT, Leigh wrote:

.....and a true example of home-built radio was heard on 80m CW a week or
so ago - a Russian with homemade equipment that rasped CW more than broke
the carrier and was a wide signal.

Sort of knocks the 'build your own' case for Gareth into a cocked hat - not
easy to work or even work out who or where he was.

thats the classic eastern european sound of homemade gear.

that and the tone that starts high and goes low as the dah dah dah
is sent.

dont worry, you get used to it.