"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message
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"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:

"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message
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The fact is there for all to see- the code test has for years been
the
ONLY
factor hindering those very induhvidiuals from HF ham radio access en
masse.
With the code test gone, here they come!


The sky is falling! The sky is falling! (sayeth Dick ...)

Nope. Sayeth Kandid Karl. I'm just describing the facts.



That's my point ... every change in the history of ham radio
has had folks like Dick ranting and raving that "This will be
the end of ham radio!"


Oh *that* won't end ham radio, just make it unrecognizable. Maybe to the
point where FCC or other authority would strongly consider action to
seriously curtail the service.When enough hams cease to behave well enough
you can be sure closer scrutiny will result. The enforcement problems
today
represent a quite small percentage of hams, but it won't take much of a
raise
in that percentage for the ship to go aground. Believe it, it didn't
originate with me. If you've missed
authorities remarks to that effect, shame on you.

Dick, you ASSume that a large percentage of new hams will "behave
badly," solely on the basis that Morse testing will no longer be required.

As I said before, if the (unlicensed) law-breakers aroung 27 MHz
really WANTED to be amongst us, they'd be here now ... lack of
a license doesn't stop them at 27 MHz ... why would it stop them here?

The problem I have with you is that your views and rhetoric are so
steeped in disdain for anyone who doesn't share your views WRT
keeping code testing that you are out of touch with reality.

The "hordes of CBers" argument doesn't hold water ...
if they're "freebanding" (illegally and without licenses)
around 27 MHz, why would any rational person think
the lack of a license would keep them from the ham
bands TODAY (if they wanted to be here) ...


You really uninformed, aren't you? Yyou been too busy rachetjawing on 20
meter SSB to notice what's going on on 10 meters? Read the latest
enforcement
logs.
That's where they talk to* each other*. They don't need to, they have all
that mostly uninhabited spectrum between CB and 28 mhz but instead they
land
in the 10 meter band by CHOICE. Wonder why they do that? Couldn't be for
the
very reason I've stated-that they just want to cause trouble for, and
thumb
their noses at hams, could it? Why shouldn't they get easy ham radio
licenses
and REALLY do it right?

We're talking about some truckers looking for a clear, "private" channel ...

Since a lot of 10m is essentially an unoccupied wasteland (and I do operate
on 10m ...), with virtually all the activity concentrated in the 28.3-28.5
segment (except for the minority of folks who deliberately want to shun
the Tech+ and Novice ops), wouldn't it be better to OCCUPY that spectrum
by allowing Novice/Tech/Tech+ access there?
(remember the "use it of lose it" saying ...)

It's not surprising you missed out on the reported cases where numbers of
those very people have been overheard discussing what they intend to do
after
they get their no-code licenses and get on HF. If a few are heard making
such
plans, you can be sure many plan it that don't talk about it overtly.

While this anecdotal "evidence" has not been documented/proved AFAIK,
you can also be pretty sure that, if such conversations HAVE actually taken
place, there's a big "hot air" factor ... look at how such folks bluster and
posture here (and I expect also in the CB groups ... though I don't monitor
those ...)

The doom and gloom, end of the world scenario that Dick
keeps trying to peddle smells of sour grapes ...

You can sanitize it any way you want, but the situation smells and it
isn't
going away with the end of code testing, to the contrary, It'll only get
worse.

Forever the "Things are going to change somewhat and that will be the end
of civilization." FUD ...

Sorry Dick, it just doesn't hold water, based on all of the historical
evidence
of the same sort of dire predictions in every case of change in the past,
and
the fact that NONE of them panned out.

Learn from history, or be doomed to repeat it ...

Carl - wk3c