"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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CW is mostly callsign/whereabouts/weather/TNX and that's it. If an actual
conversation ensues, I'm sure no one (except the jerks I know of) would
waste their time getting carpal tunnel with cursing in CW.


There you are wrong. There are many extensive conversations on CW. They
converse about the same things voice operators do. I've heard them talking
about their careers, families, computers, buying and selling on ebay and a
myriad of other topics.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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CW is mostly callsign/whereabouts/weather/TNX and that's it. If an
actual
conversation ensues, I'm sure no one (except the jerks I know of) would
waste their time getting carpal tunnel with cursing in CW.


There you are wrong. There are many extensive conversations on CW. They
converse about the same things voice operators do. I've heard them
talking
about their careers, families, computers, buying and selling on ebay and a
myriad of other topics.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Wow, most of the CW operators I've known even state that all they "pretty
much" do is exchange information. Most of them also only use it during a
contest, though. Maybe that's the difference.

Kim W5TIT


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Kim W5TIT wrote:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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CW is mostly callsign/whereabouts/weather/TNX and that's it. If an
actual
conversation ensues, I'm sure no one (except the jerks I know of) would
waste their time getting carpal tunnel with cursing in CW.


There you are wrong. There are many extensive conversations on CW. They
converse about the same things voice operators do. I've heard them
talking
about their careers, families, computers, buying and selling on ebay and a
myriad of other topics.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Wow, most of the CW operators I've known even state that all they "pretty
much" do is exchange information. Most of them also only use it during a
contest, though. Maybe that's the difference.

Interesting data, Kim. Do you have evidence that your anecdotal tale is
indicative of national stats--or do you just have a feeling?

Dave K8MN

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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CW is mostly callsign/whereabouts/weather/TNX and that's it. If an
actual
conversation ensues, I'm sure no one (except the jerks I know of)
would
waste their time getting carpal tunnel with cursing in CW.


There you are wrong. There are many extensive conversations on CW.
They
converse about the same things voice operators do. I've heard them
talking
about their careers, families, computers, buying and selling on ebay and
a
myriad of other topics.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Wow, most of the CW operators I've known even state that all they "pretty
much" do is exchange information. Most of them also only use it during a
contest, though. Maybe that's the difference.

Kim W5TIT

Just cruise the bands at non-contest times and that is when you will find
the extended conversations.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
y.com...

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
CW is mostly callsign/whereabouts/weather/TNX and that's it. If an
actual
conversation ensues, I'm sure no one (except the jerks I know of)
would
waste their time getting carpal tunnel with cursing in CW.


There you are wrong. There are many extensive conversations on CW.
They
converse about the same things voice operators do. I've heard them
talking
about their careers, families, computers, buying and selling on ebay and
a
myriad of other topics.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Wow, most of the CW operators I've known even state that all they "pretty
much" do is exchange information. Most of them also only use it during a
contest, though. Maybe that's the difference.

Kim W5TIT


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Kim keeps referencing all her friends that do CW. And what they tell her.
Hey Kim....here is an eye opener for you. CW ops actually to 'communicate'
Yes there is the wx reports, rig here is etc. But real CW ops don't bother
with that booooorings stuff. We talk about everything under the sun.

Get you 'CW OP BUDS' to get their speed up around 40 and check out 7030
or so. There are some 'real' conversations going on.

Dan/W4NTI

In article , "Kim"
writes:

Wow, most of the CW operators I've known even state that all they "pretty
much" do is exchange information.

Not me.

Most of them also only use it during a
contest, though.

Not me.

Maybe that's the difference.

Of course. The 'phone and data folks do the same - get the QSO and on to the
next, which is what contests are all about. DXing is similar.

CW ragchewing is a completely different game. Tremendous fun once you have the
skills and a decent rig.

And CW can offer a feature most other modes don't - full break-in, or QSK. The
receiving op can interrupt the sending op just by tapping the key. Great for
traffic handling, too.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Interesting. Of course, I never gave a hang for contests, but I recall the
RPN (Rochester Peanut Whistle Net) that we had years ago. We met evenings
on 15 CW. I'm trying to recall ... there was me (then WB2OSP), Tim WB2KAO
(still has that call), Greg WB2GLK (now a 4 call and I'm not sure ... I'd
have to look it up), Mike (WA2SEY now W2AV) and a couple of others. I can't
imagine us getting on a bunch of evenings only to state rrr tnx fer call ur
5nn here in Rochester,, ny (heck, we were all from Rochester!). I enjoyed
rag chewing, and preferred cw back then. When in the service, I usually
split my operating around 1/3 ssb, 1/3 cw, 1/3 rtty. I used to talk via
rtty with Norm, VK2NP, for hours on end. ssb and cw contacts were usually
in the range of 15 minutes to half an hour. Even a cw contact for 15
minutes did consist of far more than simple weather, rig, etc exchanges as
my cw contacts were fairly high speed cw (usually - although I did enjoy
dropping into the novice 40 or 15 meter bands to give a few folks a chance
to work something more than a couple of states away. Those were usually
limited as you imply simply by the limitation of slow cw). The cw contacts
close approached the limit of the rtty gear running a tape reader. rtty was
60 words per minute, too much for me, but at the time I had no problem
putting 40 words per minute perfect copy on paper and 50 words per minute
before I was struggling to copy it. Most of my contacts were between 30 and
50 words per minute cw. Come to think of it, a lot of voice contacts were
just what you mentioned - signal, weather, rig, name, and - oh yes -
*please* QSL.

Don't get me wrong; I don't care whether someone else want to learn code or
not; I just don't care for a bunch of folks who want to blame it for their
washing machines over-sudsing As far as carpel-tunnel, I never used a
straight key (although I could send decent code to about 22 and shaky code
to about 28 with one). A small amount of movement and the Hallicrafters
HA1-TO keyer took care of the tough stuff A few hours of cw contacts
never bithered me a bot.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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Wow, most of the CW operators I've known even state that all they "pretty
much" do is exchange information. Most of them also only use it during a
contest, though. Maybe that's the difference.

Kim W5TIT





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