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August 10th 03, 02:00 AM
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In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes: "N2EY" wrote in message . com... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "N2EY" wrote in message ... [triming down stuff that's been repeated in the thread] To a certain extent. But the change had its downside, too. Ham radio used to get a lot of free publicity and recruitment in the form of SWLs hearing hams on AM. That pretty much ended with the switch to SSB. The number of new hams slowed down (in part) because of that change. So we need a new publicity mechanism ... I'd agree with that ... Point is that there were downsides to the shift to SSB. From the end of WW2 to 1963 (17 years) the number of US hams quadrupled. Then it stopped dead and the numbers hung at about a quarter million for more than 5 years in the '60s. Oddly enough, growth started back up again when the incentive licensing changes were enacted. Huh? Now you're trying to tell us that incentive licensing PROMOTED growth in ham radio??? I don't think so ... More likely the boom after WWII (and Korea) was due to military radio folks becoming hams when they got out ... Now, now. Rev. Jimmie LIVED THOSE TIMES. He KNOWS. :-) I'm sorry that W9ERU hadn't retired, moved out west and become K7DI, then, eventually, did the SK. Gene Hubbell and his partner in H&H Electronics did great business selling boxes after boxes of surplus ARC-5 units and BC-348s back in 1947. Back then, "surplus" was a Big Thing and many hams restarted or got started on converted surplus radios. World War 2 was over in 1945 and the Korean War hadn't started yet (1950). The boom in the 60's was probably due to the emergence of economical JA radios, a general increase in the interest in electronics, and later, the emergence of VHF/UHF FM and repeaters ... It's difficult for even old-timers to understand a postwar boom period and the Cold War getting hotter when they've just reached First Grade. :-) You ARE right, but some of these holier-than-thou old-timers lived in a different reality. "Purpose made RF modems"?? Why not call them data radios? Whatever ... I tend to think that RF modems is a good term ... after all, modem is the concatenation of MODulator and DEModulator. The rest of the radio-electronics industry calls them "RF Modems" but you have to remember you are talking to a holier-than-thou old-timer who may think that amateur radio operates by different physics than all other radio. shrug And I agree - a dig built specifically for data modes is the better solution. Deal with the decoding right at the IF level, rather than converting to audio and all that jazz. Actually, most modern digital radios convert directly to I/Q baseband and do the signal processing there ... Carl, I don't think that QST or QEX have described "I/Q baseband" radio systems. Such doesn't exist in AMATEUR radio so it doesn't help to argue the points. Never mind that one in two Americans now have cell phones and they are all little radios using that system. :-) But somebody's got to design and build the data radios. Who is going to tie the bell on that cat? I was telling you of some plans I have for after I get my antenna work done this summer ... winter projects, so to speak. However, you will realize that I do work for a living and have other obligations as well, so don't hold me to some firm, preconceived schedule. Don't get me wrong, it's something I *really* want to do, and I intend to do it with as much diligence as I can in terms of getting something accomplished. The holier-than-thou old-timers insist on the "no-coders" to do all the technical advancements in amateur radio. Never mind that they weren't able to do much in a half century. :-) I personally think that incentive licensing, as implemented, was a mistake. It made little sense to require higher Morse speeds for privs that were primarily non-Morse ... I have NO problem with a *reasonable* number (I think 3 is adequate, 2 might be alright) of license classes in order to encourage folks to learn more about radio technology ... I know that many will say it's impractical from an enforcement standpoint, but I would restrict power for the lower classes (though you've probably seen me comment that brute force power is over-rated ... I doubt that I will ever get a legal limit amp ... 100W seems to work just fine on HF), rather than segregate newcomers from everyone else as widely as our current rules do. Newcomers need to be welcomed and "socialized" (not like Larry's "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" shpiel ...) That's how to make more good ... and better ... hams - welcome them and show them the way (politely). The holier-than-thou old-timers won't hear of "being nice" to newcomers. They have achieved TITLE, STATUS, Rank and Privelege and can sign their callsign behind their names (just like nobility). They are Very Important exhalted People who are "superior!" Nobility suffers the peasantry, poor things. Since NCVEC is not a representative organization, and is only involved in testing, why are they getting into things like subbands? They are considered by the FCC as an authoritative source. Why they said each and every word they said is something upon which I won't speculate. Hmphhh...if NCVEC is "NOT" an authoritative source, why in the hell are they given full power to make up ALL the written exam questions and answers?!? That's not what I'm talking about at all. My point is not about SMT, it's about the fact that much of today's consumer electronics isn't meant to be worked on. It's cheaper to just replace than to repair. Lookit your PC - most of the "components" aren't resistors, capacitors, transistors or ICs. The components in your PC are subassemblies: drives and cards and premanufactured cables, power supplies etc. A knowledgeable person can "build" a functioning PC from a pile of "components" with just a screwdriver and good grounding technique. Building a radio will involve components ... some may be "store-bought" ICs, others will be R/L/C, perhaps some discrete transistors, etc. ... BUT there is no reason that reasonably technically-inclined, intelligent hams cannot "build" their own custom ICs at home these days ... there are all sorts of programmable logic devices, ranging from a few thousand or less gates to several millions of gates ... and the software to do design, simulation, verification, and programming is either affordable, or in some cases free. What is already being done NOW is using things like a PIC micro- controller (a microprocessor plus some extra I/O interface) from Microchip, Inc. They supply a full Assembler software program FREE for download. Major distributors (Digi-Key, Allied, Mouser, etc.) stock PIC microcontrollers. They've been used in all sorts of radio-related projects which can be seen on the Web. That sort of thing is anathema to the holier-than-thou old-timer who insists on EVERYTHING being the SAME as when he was young. They bitch and whine about "digital" as if it were a dirty word and they don't and won't LEARN new things. Why should they? They already have Title, Rank, Status in amateurism and "real radios glow in the dark" like back in the 1950s. Folks just need to think in new paradigms ... unfortunately, that does not seem to be the strong suit of many present hams. Think "The Emperor's New Clothes." Yes, it doesn't "suit" them at all. When their morsemanship skills are worn out and they take off that outer clothing, they aren't wearing anything of knowledge underneath. I think some in the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Service are still making coils on round Quaker Oats cartons and finding the "sweet spot" on their galena crystals so they can hear DX from the next county... LHA |
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August 12th 03, 12:46 AM
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , "Carl R. Stevenson" writes: "N2EY" wrote in message . com... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "N2EY" wrote in message ... Now you're trying to tell us that incentive licensing PROMOTED growth in ham radio??? I don't think so ... More likely the boom after WWII (and Korea) was due to military radio folks becoming hams when they got out ... Now, now. Rev. Jimmie LIVED THOSE TIMES. He KNOWS. :-) You've told us about morse landline telegraphy. Did you LIVE THOSE TIMES? Do you KNOW? Maybe you read it in a BOOK or saw an article on the WEB. :-) The boom in the 60's was probably due to the emergence of economical JA radios, a general increase in the interest in electronics, and later, the emergence of VHF/UHF FM and repeaters ... Incorrect. There was no boom of JA radios in the 1960's. It's difficult for even old-timers to understand a postwar boom period and the Cold War getting hotter when they've just reached First Grade. :-) I don't know about when you were in school, Len. They provided us history books. Most of us figured out that there was additional historical material available. :-) :-) The holier-than-thou old-timers insist on the "no-coders" to do all the technical advancements in amateur radio. Never mind that they weren't able to do much in a half century. :-) What's it to you? You aren't involved. If you're to make any technical advancements in amateur radio, you'd better get cracking. You've wasted decades talking about "getting into" amateur radio. :-) The holier-than-thou old-timers won't hear of "being nice" to newcomers. They have achieved TITLE, STATUS, Rank and Privelege and can sign their callsign behind their names (just like nobility). They are Very Important exhalted People who are "superior!" Love your "fox and the grapes" routine. You got the callsign and privilege portion partially correct. Nobility suffers the peasantry, poor things. In this game, you aren't nobility and you aren't a peasant. You're an onlooker. Dave K8MN |
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August 12th 03, 03:38 AM
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , "Carl R. Stevenson" writes: "N2EY" wrote in message . com... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "N2EY" wrote in message ... Now you're trying to tell us that incentive licensing PROMOTED growth in ham radio??? I don't think so ... More likely the boom after WWII (and Korea) was due to military radio folks becoming hams when they got out ... Now, now. Rev. Jimmie LIVED THOSE TIMES. He KNOWS. :-) You've told us about morse landline telegraphy. Did you LIVE THOSE TIMES? Do you KNOW? Maybe you read it in a BOOK or saw an article on the WEB. :-) Irrelevant. No one in here lived in 1844 when morse code was first used in commercial landline communications. No one in here lived when Marconi did his first radio communications in Switzerland in 1895, or proved in Italy in 1896...using morse code for on-off keying of a spark transmitter. No one in here lived when the Titanic went down and mighty morse code managed to get through for rescuing some...morse code could get through because there was NOTHING ELSE to compare it with. Try reading a BOOK on the REST of the world of radio instead of what if spoon-fed you by the little publisher in Newington. You might find out that the REST OF THE RADIO WORLD has gone beyond amateurism. There is NO need in the rest of the radio world for DX contesting or morsemanship skills or collecting QSL cards. The boom in the 60's was probably due to the emergence of economical JA radios, a general increase in the interest in electronics, and later, the emergence of VHF/UHF FM and repeaters ... Incorrect. There was no boom of JA radios in the 1960's. Of course not. Hallicrafters, National Radio, RME, Collins were all having terrific sales, snowing the amateur market with ham gear. Right. Sure. Where are they now? Collins quit the ham market long ago. Hallicrafters folded or something even longer ago. National Radio went for the military electronics stuff quitting ham radio sales. Even Heathkit went belly-up. Are you in some kind of dream world where you think Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, and JRC are "American" companies?!?!? It's difficult for even old-timers to understand a postwar boom period and the Cold War getting hotter when they've just reached First Grade. :-) I don't know about when you were in school, Len. They provided us history books. Most of us figured out that there was additional historical material available. :-) :-) Paper, moveable type, and the printing press were all invented LONG before 1844 and the first use of commercial morse code communications. I was a working radio professional in 1952 when the Cold War was already started. Are you saying your holiness as a school boy has MORE experience in Cold War life?!?!? The holier-than-thou old-timers insist on the "no-coders" to do all the technical advancements in amateur radio. Never mind that they weren't able to do much in a half century. :-) What's it to you? Stuff it, Colonel Klunk. You aren't involved. If you're to make any technical advancements in amateur radio, you'd better get cracking. Stuff it twice. YOU are NOT a judge. You are NOT an official who can "run" the US amateur radio community. You are NOT in government anymore and were NEVER a radio regulator at the FCC. I've had a successful career in PROFESSIONAL radio-electronics and still enjoy that in retirement. Radio-electronics has been a fun hobby for me for a longer time. Now tell us, great big four-decade experienced AMATEUR radio god, what have YOU ever done to "advance amateur radio?!?" Show us your patents, your marvelous discoveries, all your important technical contributions. You've had FORTY YEARS of amateurism and all you can come up with is trying to put down folks in an amateur newsgroup?!? In this game, you aren't nobility and you aren't a peasant. You're an onlooker. That's all you are, big radio god of the AMATEUR bands. A hot-air balloon who plays with ready-built radios and talks tuff as a newsgroupie. Get a better life. LHA |
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August 13th 03, 01:42 AM
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , "Carl R. Stevenson" writes: "N2EY" wrote in message . com... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "N2EY" wrote in message ... Now you're trying to tell us that incentive licensing PROMOTED growth in ham radio??? I don't think so ... More likely the boom after WWII (and Korea) was due to military radio folks becoming hams when they got out ... Now, now. Rev. Jimmie LIVED THOSE TIMES. He KNOWS. :-) You've told us about morse landline telegraphy. Did you LIVE THOSE TIMES? Do you KNOW? Maybe you read it in a BOOK or saw an article on the WEB. :-) Irrelevant. No one in here lived in 1844 when morse code was first used in commercial landline communications. No one in here lived when Marconi did his first radio communications in Switzerland in 1895, or proved in Italy in 1896...using morse code for on-off keying of a spark transmitter. No one in here lived when the Titanic went down and mighty morse code managed to get through for rescuing some...morse code could get through because there was NOTHING ELSE to compare it with. What I wrote was precisely relevant. You wrote of someone's having not been alive when something took place. I pointed out that you weren't alive during some of the things which you've pontificated on in this venue. Try reading a BOOK on the REST of the world of radio instead of what if spoon-fed you by the little publisher in Newington. "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." --Leonard H. Anderson You might find out that the REST OF THE RADIO WORLD has gone beyond amateurism. What the hell are you prattling about? There is NO need in the rest of the radio world for DX contesting or morsemanship skills or collecting QSL cards. Did you have a point? The boom in the 60's was probably due to the emergence of economical JA radios, a general increase in the interest in electronics, and later, the emergence of VHF/UHF FM and repeaters ... Incorrect. There was no boom of JA radios in the 1960's. Of course not. Hallicrafters, National Radio, RME, Collins were all having terrific sales, snowing the amateur market with ham gear. Right. Sure. Where are they now? Collins quit the ham market long ago. Hallicrafters folded or something even longer ago. National Radio went for the military electronics stuff quitting ham radio sales. Even Heathkit went belly-up. Are you in some kind of dream world where you think Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, and JRC are "American" companies?!?!? You certainly wrote a large number of diversionary words to cover your gaffe. There was no boom of Japanese ham gear in the 1960's. Is it clear now? It's difficult for even old-timers to understand a postwar boom period and the Cold War getting hotter when they've just reached First Grade. :-) I don't know about when you were in school, Len. They provided us history books. Most of us figured out that there was additional historical material available. :-) :-) Paper, moveable type, and the printing press were all invented LONG before 1844 and the first use of commercial morse code communications. I was a working radio professional in 1952 when the Cold War was already started. Are you saying your holiness as a school boy has MORE experience in Cold War life?!?!? Why no, Len, not as a school boy. I certainly have more governmental communications experience during the cold war. The holier-than-thou old-timers insist on the "no-coders" to do all the technical advancements in amateur radio. Never mind that they weren't able to do much in a half century. :-) What's it to you? Stuff it, Colonel Klunk. You aren't involved. If you're to make any technical advancements in amateur radio, you'd better get cracking. Stuff it twice. YOU are NOT a judge. You are NOT an official who can "run" the US amateur radio community. You are NOT in government anymore and were NEVER a radio regulator at the FCC. It doesn't take a regulator to truthfully state that you weren't involved and are not involved in amateur radio. Don't tell me what I am to amateur radio. I'm a licensed ham and have been for decades. You, quite truthfully are not involved at all in amateur radio. You aren't a judge of what hams do or have done. You are not a regulator. I've had a successful career in PROFESSIONAL radio-electronics and still enjoy that in retirement. Radio-electronics has been a fun hobby for me for a longer time. Trust me. Things have a way of evening out. Now tell us, great big four-decade experienced AMATEUR radio god, what have YOU ever done to "advance amateur radio?!?" No, I don't believe I will, Len. Show us your patents, your marvelous discoveries, all your important technical contributions. Still have your patent fetish? You've had FORTY YEARS of amateurism and all you can come up with is trying to put down folks in an amateur newsgroup?!? Folks? Well, there's you. Then again, you aren't a ham. You're just a groupie. In this game, you aren't nobility and you aren't a peasant. You're an onlooker. That's all you are, big radio god of the AMATEUR bands. You've got it wrong, Len. I have a license and have had it for decades. I make contacts via amateur radio daily. I'm a participant in amateur radio. I don't issue catcalls from the sidelines. The guy who does that is you. A hot-air balloon who plays with ready-built radios and talks tuff as a newsgroupie. Why, Len, you're the wanna-be. Get a better life. I'm quite happy with this one, Len. Yours seems to be a little lacking in light of your ham radio envy. Dave K8MN |
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August 13th 03, 11:16 PM
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , "Carl R. Stevenson" writes: "N2EY" wrote in message . com... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "N2EY" wrote in message ... What I wrote was precisely relevant. Radio gods have the irritating habit of stating that only THEIR viewpoints are "relevant." :-) You wrote of someone's having not been alive when something took place. I pointed out that you weren't alive during some of the things which you've pontificated on in this venue. Now, now, Kolonel...you're busy trying to divert attention to someone else by saying you are "relevant" and anyone disbelieving such a godlike statement is "irrelevant." You are worse than the other whiny PCTAs who want to "win" old arguments that they LOST in here. Try reading a BOOK on the REST of the world of radio instead of what if spoon-fed you by the little publisher in Newington. "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." --Leonard H. Anderson ...and you still don't have any of that authority, divine radio god. What the hell are you prattling about? ...about a whiny radio god (yourself) getting all hot and bothered by negative criticsm and not being able to argue any subject without attempting misdirection into personalities. Did you have a point? Yes. But, like Reverend Jim, you can't accept it even though everyone else (except fellow PCTAs) can see it for what it is. :-) You certainly wrote a large number of diversionary words to cover your gaffe. There was no boom of Japanese ham gear in the 1960's. Is it clear now? Again, you refuse to accept what was happening in the markets for amateur radio equipment. The Japanese companies were already IN the ham radio marketplace in the USA then and they've occupied the prime position ever since. Why no, Len, not as a school boy. I certainly have more governmental communications experience during the cold war. Any more tales of wondrous radio pioneering from the International Cashew Nut exporting capital of the world? :-) No doubt you were awarded an Intelligence Star for your James Bomb duties getting the goods on nearby commies in other countries. :-) It doesn't take a regulator to truthfully state that you weren't involved and are not involved in amateur radio. You mean NOT LICENSED. That's ALL you can claim. :-) Keep up with that "charge," big radio god. It seems about the only valid statement you can make. Don't tell me what I am to amateur radio. No problem. You do that constantly about yourself. :-) I'm a licensed ham and have been for decades. Which only proves that you've been able to renew that license periodically and within the legal time. :-) You should also describe the stamping on your hide from the FDA. You, quite truthfully are not involved at all in amateur radio. Well then, HAM RADIO magazine made some dreadful errors in personnel, did it? :-) You ought to bring up outright charges of fraud and misrepresentation. Psycho pSteve does that periodically. Of course, he can't understand any of the article's technical things so he just says they are "forgeries." You aren't a judge of what hams do or have done. Real hams sometimes contain unsafe amounts of Escherichia coli O157:H7. Be careful of infecting others when spouting off in here. You are not a regulator. Neither are YOU, big radio god. Now tell us, great big four-decade experienced AMATEUR radio god, what have YOU ever done to "advance amateur radio?!?" No, I don't believe I will, Len. I don't believe you CAN. :-) Show us your patents, your marvelous discoveries, all your important technical contributions. Still have your patent fetish? Never had any "fetish." But, I DO have a patent in radio. You've had FORTY YEARS of amateurism and all you can come up with is trying to put down folks in an amateur newsgroup?!? Folks? Well, there's you. You don't hesitate one bit to put down ANYONE who doesn't worship your statements or ideals. That's clearly evident in this newsgroup and available on Google. Then again, you aren't a ham. You're just a groupie. "Ham is the butchered meat of swine." I'm just advocating the elimination of the morse code test for ANY US radio license examination. You've got it wrong, Len. I have a license and have had it for decades. You get a nice gold star for renewing your license periodically. Other than that, what can you claim? I make contacts via amateur radio daily. I make contacts with switches and relays. Break those contacts, too. Daily. :-) I'm a participant in amateur radio. Well, that proves the radio god's "validity." One can't get IN amateur radio without ALREADY being IN amateur radio. Know the morse code. Worship morse code. It is the key to GREATNESS! I don't issue catcalls from the sidelines. You have a "license" to catcall from inside the lines? Of course you do. "Authority" from the US government! Your license grant "authorizes" you to be a horse's ass to anyone not in league with your godlike opinions, statements, and general personal insults. No problem. Everyone sees that. Get a better life. I'm quite happy with this one, Len. Yours seems to be a little lacking in light of your ham radio envy. What "envy?" I'm just advocating the elimination of the morse code test for radio license examinations. You seem to think that anyone doing that is committing some kind of heresy or blasphemy. You seem to think that ALL in this newsgroup MUST have a valid amateur radio license to participate. You don't have any validity in that demand so all you do is attempt individual personal insults. You are still under the misconception that a valid amateur radio license is required to participate in here. This newsgroup isn't "ham radio." It is supposed to be about talking policy matters for that. In the United States all us citizens have the absolute RIGHT to free speech under our Constitution. You won't accept that, thus you are acting unconstitutionally. Radio gods are like that. Mere earthly laws don't apply to them. LHA |
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August 14th 03, 06:48 AM
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Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , "Carl R. Stevenson" writes: "N2EY" wrote in message . com... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "N2EY" wrote in message ... What I wrote was precisely relevant. Radio gods have the irritating habit of stating that only THEIR viewpoints are "relevant." :-) Why, you've habitually dismissed the viewpoints of others with a brusque "irrelevant" and have stubbornly clung to your own views. Does that mean that you're a radio god? :-) You wrote of someone's having not been alive when something took place. I pointed out that you weren't alive during some of the things which you've pontificated on in this venue. Now, now, Kolonel...you're busy trying to divert attention to someone else by saying you are "relevant" and anyone disbelieving such a godlike statement is "irrelevant." Not at all, Mr. Bluster. I wrote nothing about MY being relevant. You chastised another for making a statement about something which took place in the distant past. You make similar statements quite frequently. You are worse than the other whiny PCTAs who want to "win" old arguments that they LOST in here. Which old arguments were lost? Why are you attempting diversion just after trying to paint another's comments as a diversion. Do you ever practice what you preach? :-) :-) Try reading a BOOK on the REST of the world of radio instead of what if spoon-fed you by the little publisher in Newington. "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." --Leonard H. Anderson ...and you still don't have any of that authority, divine radio god. But somehow--maybe you view it as manifest destiny--you have such authority. You're pathetic. What the hell are you prattling about? ...about a whiny radio god (yourself) getting all hot and bothered by negative criticsm and not being able to argue any subject without attempting misdirection into personalities. You're all about misdirection and personalties, Len. Your bluster isn't going to accomplish much. Did you have a point? Yes. But, like Reverend Jim, you can't accept it even though everyone else (except fellow PCTAs) can see it for what it is. :-) Everyone else? We haven't heard from everyone else. Are you claiming *chortle* prescience? You certainly wrote a large number of diversionary words to cover your gaffe. There was no boom of Japanese ham gear in the 1960's. Is it clear now? Again, you refuse to accept what was happening in the markets for amateur radio equipment. I refuse to accept your claim because it is incorrect. You don't know what you're talking about. The Japanese companies were already IN the ham radio marketplace in the USA then and they've occupied the prime position ever since. There were a very few Japanese transmitters and receivers in the very late 1960s. There was no boom of Japanese equipment in the 1960's. The Japanese weren't even in the "prime position" in the mid-1970's. Why no, Len, not as a school boy. I certainly have more governmental communications experience during the cold war. Any more tales of wondrous radio pioneering from the International Cashew Nut exporting capital of the world? :-) Why? Are you folks in the International Nut capital of the world in the market for more? :-) :-) No doubt you were awarded an Intelligence Star for your James Bomb duties getting the goods on nearby commies in other countries. :-) Then again, you wouldn't be in a position to know anything about it. :-) It doesn't take a regulator to truthfully state that you weren't involved and are not involved in amateur radio. You mean NOT LICENSED. That's ALL you can claim. :-) I mean "not involved". You have nothing to do with amateur radio. Keep up with that "charge," big radio god. It seems about the only valid statement you can make. Don't tell me what I am to amateur radio. No problem. You do that constantly about yourself. :-) Actually I haven't done much of that here but I'd be entitled to do so. I am, after all, a licensed radio amateur. I'm a part of amateur radio. You, on the other hand... :-) I'm a licensed ham and have been for decades. Which only proves that you've been able to renew that license periodically and within the legal time. :-) I've passed four different written exams and morse exams at three speeds. I took and passed all the exams they had, Len. You've not even attempted the most basic, despite your "decades-long interest". You should also describe the stamping on your hide from the FDA. You write some pretty peculiar things. You, quite truthfully are not involved at all in amateur radio. Well then, HAM RADIO magazine made some dreadful errors in personnel, did it? :-) How long has it been since there was such a magazine? Yes, I agree that HAM RADIO magazine made at least one dreadful error in personnel. You ought to bring up outright charges of fraud and misrepresentation. Psycho pSteve does that periodically. Of course, he can't understand any of the article's technical things so he just says they are "forgeries." I don't know about fraud but you've certainly been guilty of misrepresentation here on a number of occasions. You aren't a judge of what hams do or have done. Real hams sometimes contain unsafe amounts of Escherichia coli O157:H7. Be careful of infecting others when spouting off in here. Nice dodge. You are not a regulator. Neither are YOU, big radio god. I have no need to be. I'm quite happy to be active as a licensed radio amateur. I'm one-for-two. You're oh-for-two. Now tell us, great big four-decade experienced AMATEUR radio god, what have YOU ever done to "advance amateur radio?!?" No, I don't believe I will, Len. I don't believe you CAN. :-) I'm sure it'd be something like your line about Steve: You wouldn't be capable of understanding. :-) Show us your patents, your marvelous discoveries, all your important technical contributions. Still have your patent fetish? Never had any "fetish." But, I DO have a patent in radio. It sure seems like a fetish. I can Google up a number of occasions where you bring up the existence of your patent while asking others, "Do YOU have a patent"? You've had FORTY YEARS of amateurism and all you can come up with is trying to put down folks in an amateur newsgroup?!? Folks? Well, there's you. You don't hesitate one bit to put down ANYONE who doesn't worship your statements or ideals. That's clearly evident in this newsgroup and available on Google. I don't require worship, nor do my ideals. That's another misrepresentation on your part. That is clearly evident without a trip to Google. Then again, you aren't a ham. You're just a groupie. "Ham is the butchered meat of swine." Then you're in the wrong newsgroup. I'm just advocating the elimination of the morse code test for ANY US radio license examination. You've never "just" advocated. You've always done the things of which you frequently accuse others. You want a minimum age requirement for entry into amateur radio. When others have argued that no age limit is needed, you've come close to apoplexy and the capital letters fly as you've typed "CHILDREN" As to the elimination of morse testing: What's it to you? You've got it wrong, Len. I have a license and have had it for decades. You get a nice gold star for renewing your license periodically. Other than that, what can you claim? I can and do claim that 1) you don't hold such a license 2) you aren't a part of amateur radio 3) that your credibility here on the code test issue is almost non-existent. I make contacts via amateur radio daily. I make contacts with switches and relays. Break those contacts, too. I'll bet you could break anything. Daily. :-) I'm a participant in amateur radio. Well, that proves the radio god's "validity." One can't get IN amateur radio without ALREADY being IN amateur radio. Know the morse code. Worship morse code. It is the key to GREATNESS! One can get in quite easily. You haven't taken the first step toward obtaining an amateur radio license of any class. You can't blame others for your own inertia. I don't issue catcalls from the sidelines. You have a "license" to catcall from inside the lines? I'm in the game, not on the sidelines. I'll be happy to dish out all the catcalls you can handle. Of course you do. "Authority" from the US government! Not from the sidelines. If you'd develop a more positive outlook, you could be one of our cheerleaders. Your license grant "authorizes" you to be a horse's ass to anyone not in league with your godlike opinions, statements, and general personal insults. Which simply makes you an unlicensed horse's ass. No problem. Everyone sees that. Everyone? You have an ARRL study guide in your pocket? Get a better life. I'm quite happy with this one, Len. Yours seems to be a little lacking in light of your ham radio envy. What "envy?" You know. Your envy. I'm just advocating the elimination of the morse code test for radio license examinations. Naw. You know in your heart of hearts that it just isn't so. You seem to think that anyone doing that is committing some kind of heresy or blasphemy. Not at all. I don't think you know the first thing about it. You seem to think that ALL in this newsgroup MUST have a valid amateur radio license to participate. You don't have any validity in that demand so all you do is attempt individual personal insults. I don't think that at all. You've commented here for years. You've dropped road apples of insults on numerous individuals who don't happen to agree with you. Then you get sore when the insults come your way. You tell others about how tough newsgroups can be but you, the little old pirhana, can't take it. You are still under the misconception that a valid amateur radio license is required to participate in here. You are still under the misconception about what I believe. This newsgroup isn't "ham radio." It is supposed to be about talking policy matters for that. In the United States all us citizens have the absolute RIGHT to free speech under our Constitution. You won't accept that, thus you are acting unconstitutionally. More road apples. I'd give you some oats but you're the wrong end. The constitution does not require my silence or force any deference toward your views. It does not prohibit my laughing at you or my sarcasm directed toward you. You may unwrap the flag and stand down from your soapbox. Radio gods are like that. Mere earthly laws don't apply to them. You can't even make up your mind if I'm a god or not. Dave K8MN |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Not at all, Mr. Bluster. I wrote nothing about MY being relevant. That's true. You are NOT relevant to any subject in here except your over-prideful nonsense and trying to put down others who won't worship you. Pfaughhh. LHA |
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August 13th 03, 04:22 AM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP)
writes: (AveryFine) wrote in message ... (Len Over 21) Were you ever in a country where a war was going on? Naaaah...He was CLOSE to one once, and since a bunch of guys he didn't know got killed in it, he just used THIER share of war stories to make up the difference. Well, there you have it. Why do you let Len Anderson's postings here bother you, Steve Robeson? Have you not noticed that his pattern of behavior is designed to elicit angry responses from you? Stuff it, Colonel Klunk. "YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them, make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so. That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis." Guess who said that? Perhaps you should take your own advice, Len. Never thought I'd be agreeing with a post from "Avery Fine"... ! ! ! Why not? Actually, I am beginning to think this is just Lennie arguing with his darker alter ego in a public forum! I am not "Lennie". Nor am I Len Anderson. I am just someone who writes here when the mood strikes me. Is that wrong? |
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