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August 21st 03, 11:16 AM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len described. applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like the military much, do you? Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the time? Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?" For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. There's more there than you want to admit. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. You are singularly unimpressive. For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage? BTW, other than Mark Morgan, to WHOM do you refer as "never served"...The nature of just about everyone's (regulars, that is...) military or government service here is well documented. Brian Kelly/W3RV. For countless lies, mistruths (especially that one about "get my Extra Lite out of the box...) and use of profanity and insults... We have all desired things which we have not achieved. Ahhhhhh....too true. But then none of us here have "not achieved" anything for which we were so otherwise eminently qualified, now have we...?!?! Of if anyone has, they are not making an issue of it! Point. The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth and disrespect are not the same thing. Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate. Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ What did he say that was untrue? |
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August 22nd 03, 12:12 AM
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In article ,
(Brian) writes: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian) wrote in message .com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len described. Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. "DX" as a term/phrase, came from commercial communications folks standing for "distance." It used a very long time ago as a kind of morse code shorthand. Steamy just doesn't know about that. applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like the military much, do you? Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. :-) Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the time? It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Steamy cannot possibly understand the importance of primary comm needs of an area command or that it must continue to be available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. Back before the DSN and optical fiber lines and communications satellites, the primary long- distance communication medium was HF radio. Army radio ADA served the all-branch Far East Command in the early 1950s and never failed...even during a 3-hour solar flare in 1955 that disrupted the longest circuites...the shorter ones continued to operate uninterrupted. "Overwhelming power" must be the 4 KW PEP Western Electric LD-T2, all of 6 db higher than maximum legal US amateur RF output. It could be the old Press Wireless 15 KW CW (but always used FSK TTY), the 40 KW Collins-made AN/FRT-22 didn't arrive until 1955. All that plus a small airfield containing the wire antennas helped "Get The Message Through" 24/7. The thousands who were assigned to ADA didn't have much choice but to make sure the communications got through. It did. Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?" Steamy can only think of the hymnal about Montezuma and Tripoli. Steamy is a mighty macho marine morseman, far superior to ordinary folk. He is a regular Atilla the Ham. :-) For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. There's more there than you want to admit. Steamy can't handle real truth. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. You are singularly unimpressive. Steamy is louder than any BPL QRM in here. :-) For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. Some of them probably fell while staggering back from the NCO club. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage? Steamy is hell bent on doing anything he can to say bad things about his "enemies." He tries to turn around statements I say so that they are pejoratives. Fact is, long ago I served in the US Army and was assigned to a Signal Battalion that had 19 casualties (all killed) on July 1, 1950, in Korea. They and the four USAF crew members were on a TDY under direct orders from General MacArthur's headquarters to help improve the communications in Korea during the first two weeks of the Korean War. In the next six years there would be four more members of that Signal Battalion who became casualties of the Korean War and the Korean Truce (which is still in effect, the War never being officially over). I've stood retreat for those 19 and the billet where I was in for nearly two years was renamed for one of the casualties, Cpl Elmer Hardy. Hardy Barracks still exists today in Tokyo, much reduced in size, but still holding the offices of the Pacific Stars & Stripes military newspaper. Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. He still lives in a fantasy world of amateurism where ONLY amateur radio has "conquered" HF and ALL radio communications is rated and gauged by amateur recreational and hobby activities on HF radio. That is a terribly elitist...and very false...viewpoint. All it shows is his ignorance of the larger world of commercial and government radio. Steamy can't admit to such ignorance. To do so would be to "lose face" and he would disgrace his personal opinion by such admission. He MUST keep up the image of the "expert," the "pioneer of HF radio" through amateurism of the 1930s. Such is a substitute for his terminated military career. He glories in the rank, status, privilege of amateur extra and looks down on all not achieving his personal stature...typical of those who have not achieved much rank, status, or privileges in real life. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth and disrespect are not the same thing. Steamy has his Fantasy. He can change the "truth" in that Fantasy to be whatever he wants. It pleasures him greatly to heap abuse on those who have made it in the real world and done more than he was able to do. Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate. Heh heh...Steamy still hasn't given any details of his own claims to honor and glory of "seven hostile actions." He never will. :-) Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ What did he say that was untrue? Steamy is still wrapped up in his Fantasy. I've had a full working career in radio-electronics and that is archived in records other than "Google." My military record is archived at NARA in St. Louis and Eugene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, served in my Signal Battalion at the same time I did. Gene is also in retirement from a career at FAA but very much alive. My colleague at Rocketdyne and manager at RCA is Jim Hall, KD6JG. A good friend is Al Walston, W6MJN, who was Best Man at my wedding. I've been in contact with Jim Brendage, a civilian engineer at ADA and a former USAF NCO who served at ADA's old transmitter site after the USAF took over all HF comm in 1963. The callsign of the US Army Pacific Headquarters (Hawaii) is still ADA. According to Steamy, all those statements are "lies." Despite their real world existance, Steamy doesn't want to admit their truth. He calls anything I say a "lie." It's just not worth it to attempt discussion with a psychotic. Some else in here who used to quote an old baseball player is fond of repeating "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." I did it. I don't have to brag. Leonard H. Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
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August 24th 03, 02:35 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Brian) writes: Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. Sure he does. Someone here has a hard time "accepting" things, Lennie, and it isn't me. Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. Sorry. Incorrect. It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. I ahte liars and people who try to use somoen else's military service to make themselves look good. That would include you and Mark Morgan. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Sorry. Incorrect. Steamy can only think of the hymnal about Montezuma and Tripoli. Steamy is a mighty macho marine morseman, far superior to ordinary folk. He is a regular Atilla the Ham. Thanks for once again re-proving that "Do As I Say Not Do As I Do" is a persnal credo of yours, Lennie. Steamy can't handle real truth. Sure I can. You are liar, an antagonist, and a creep. See...I took that pretty well, I think. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. Some of them probably fell while staggering back from the NCO club. Ahhhh yes...Lennie once again shows that "honoring" Veteans is a one way street for him. I bet Lennie's REAL "nicname" is "Diode". Steamy is hell bent on doing anything he can to say bad things about his "enemies." He tries to turn around statements I say so that they are pejoratives. If you were truly an "enemy", Lennie, wwe'd not be having this conversation. I don't have to say bad things about you. You do enough to prove anything Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. You have no "honor", Anderscum, save for yourself and your ego. Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. Envious...Of something you did 50 years ago..?!?! BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! And YOUR "operative word" there was "HAD" tasks dealing with HF radio...I HAVE dealings with HF radio...And NOT on someone elses' dime, either. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. Your "link", Lennie, will be forever remembered in THIS forum as a shameful and scurrilous attempt to USE those men and thier sacrifice to make some silly attempt at improving your image in here. It's not possible. Every time you enter this forum and start that same old spiele again, you reprove the point that you are nothing but an NG troll. Heh heh...Steamy still hasn't given any details of his own claims to honor and glory of "seven hostile actions." He never will. Not here and certainly not for you, Your Putziness. THERE'S where the "envy" lays. According to Steamy, all those statements are "lies." Despite their real world existance, Steamy doesn't want to admit their truth. He calls anything I say a "lie." Nope...just the things that aren't true, Lennie...Which in YOUR case is almost anything that exceeds the discussion of THEORETICAL matters. It's just not worth it to attempt discussion with a psychotic. Then stop muttering to yourself and maybe the voices will go away. Some else in here who used to quote an old baseball player is fond of repeating "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." I did it. I don't have to brag. Sure you do. It's the ONLY way you can own up to ANYTHING in this NG...INCLUDING your assertion that you were getting licensed, among others. Leonard H. Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person Who, other than Mrs Lennie, cares? Putz! steve, K4YZ |
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#5
August 24th 03, 08:32 PM
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In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Brian) writes: Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. Sure he does. Someone here has a hard time "accepting" things, Lennie, and it isn't me. Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. Sorry. Incorrect. Show PROOF of your mighty military "communications," big mouth. You TALK a big story without mentioning ANY details. You haven't named a single one of the "hostile actions" you claim you were in. It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. I ahte liars and people who try to use somoen else's military service to make themselves look good. You just HATE. My military service is archived at NARA. Not only that, I have witnesses still alive who were at the same Army radio station I served when I was there. No lies. You HATE someone else being successful in anything so much that it makes you almost violent. That's a bad mental symptom which needs treatment. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Sorry. Incorrect. It may be "incorrect" but it is more likely quite CORRECT. You've NEVER stated in any detail what you actually DID in the USMC insofar as radio communications. You conveniently gloss over any details. Anyone who really liked their past work will remember details of it and "talk shop" about it. You never do. All you talk about is some general phrases (copyable from any little PR booklet) about "warrior skills" and honor and glory...NO DETAILS. All those generalities and NO DETAILS...sure marks of a bluffer, a con man, trying a selling job on those with no experience in some area. In short, YOU LIE. Then you try to say others "lie" when they give details, provide references and have documentation to prove what they say. Steamy can't handle real truth. Sure I can. You are liar, an antagonist, and a creep. Antagonist, yes. Liar no. I've provided details, references, even names of still-living witnesses as proof of what I've done. You've never tried to confirm anything, have you? You've rejected a scan of my first First Class Radiotelephone (Commercial) license, not once but four times in e-mail. You just can't tolerate TRUTH. It upsets the little fabric of LIES you've created about yourself. Ahhhh yes...Lennie once again shows that "honoring" Veteans is a one way street for him. I HONOR all who actually served their country honorably. I don't honor posers or posturers who can only claim generalities and spout gratuitous phrases or are only interested in fantasies of heroic "hostile actions" they were never involved with in reality. If you were truly an "enemy", Lennie, wwe'd not be having this conversation. True. I'd be standing, watching a graves registration detail picking up your remains. I don't have to say bad things about you. You do enough to prove anything ? Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. You have no "honor", Anderscum, save for yourself and your ego. Vomiting more bile and hatred, ey? Not nice. Not even close to any "Amateur's Code," I'd say. :-) Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. Envious...Of something you did 50 years ago..?!?! BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! You are envious. Terribly so. There's no other explanation for the hyena laugh writing...other than another symptom of your growing psychosis. And YOUR "operative word" there was "HAD" tasks dealing with HF radio...I HAVE dealings with HF radio...And NOT on someone elses' dime, either. Past tense is fine. HF radio is no longer any primary medium for either national or international radio communications...it has become secondary to very high speed fiber optic digitally-encoded comm and geosychronous communications satellites. That I was actually involved in HF radio communications before your birth, for three straight years, makes you very tense. It should, you have NO comparative claims verifiable through documentation or witnesses to prove your "matching" experience later. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. Your "link", Lennie, will be forever remembered in THIS forum as a shameful and scurrilous attempt to USE those men and thier sacrifice to make some silly attempt at improving your image in here. I don't "use" anyone in the military. I was IN the military, doing HF radio communications, have the documentation and the living witnesses who were at the same radio station at the same time I served. I've researched US military records to trace the history of my military unit from its first organization in 1946 to the present day. The Army callsign of ADA has been preserved as the callsign of the Headquarters, US Army Pacific, as important now as it was 50 years ago as the primary communications facitlity of the US Far East Command in Tokyo. It's not possible. Every time you enter this forum and start that same old spiele again, you reprove the point that you are nothing but an NG troll. Perhaps...certainly so to some who think of US amateur radio as some kind of substitute for a failed military career and must always act as if the HOBBY of amateur radio is some kind of "military" SERVICE requiring an espirit de corps worthy of the USMC. Or BSA. I'm just trying to advocate the abolishment of morse code testing for any US radio operator license. Instead, I get all this spewing of HATE and VOMIT from certain parties exhibiting classic symptoms of psychoses. Get some mental help, Steamy. It may improve your life and will certainly improve the lives of all around you. LHA |
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August 26th 03, 05:47 PM
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August 22nd 03, 12:47 AM
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Brian wrote:
There's more there than you want to admit. Brian, we intend to have the debates *after* the nominations are closed. Do you have a nomination? We have to try to keep up with California. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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August 22nd 03, 06:15 AM
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"Mike Coslo" wrote:
(snip) We have to try to keep up with California. Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
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August 22nd 03, 05:44 PM
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Dwight Stewart wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote: (snip) We have to try to keep up with California. Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. This is something no one wins. First we have a power grab by the Repub's who have figured out that in any election, it will be possible to get enough names on a petition to force a recall. I hope they realize they opend a Pandora's box, and for what? Governing a state that they were partially involved in making a major mess? They are so desperate to get someone in office, that they are trying to elect a Republican who is more like a Democrat than anything else. The Dems, instead of fielding a smart team in case the recalll comes, have put together a list of clowns that are a true embarassment to democracy, leaving the one serious contender with the election plan from hell, that is to vote for no recall, but vote for me in case there is. To think that the next Gov. there might be elected with only a few percent of the vote. Makes me proud I'm a registered Independent. I wonder if there is going to be a recall on the governer elected in the recall vote... if there is a recall.... - Mike KB3EIA - |
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August 23rd 03, 06:37 AM
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In article , Mike Coslo writes:
Dwight Stewart wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote: (snip) We have to try to keep up with California. Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. This is something no one wins. First we have a power grab by the Repub's who have figured out that in any election, it will be possible to get enough names on a petition to force a recall. I hope they realize they opend a Pandora's box, and for what? Governing a state that they were partially involved in making a major mess? They are so desperate to get someone in office, that they are trying to elect a Republican who is more like a Democrat than anything else. The special election in regards to recalling the Governor of the state of California has nothing whatsoever to do with amateur radio. If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. One of the accepted candidates for the ballot in the special election in California is a Grass Valley resident, Jim Weir. Jim Weir has posted in here a few times. Ask him if his candidacy has anything to do with amateur radio policy. LHA |
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