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September 9th 03, 12:19 PM
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September 9th 03, 02:08 PM
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Maybe the FCC monitors this newsgroup, sees all the senseless bashing of ego
in the code vs. no code wars and will reassign all amateur frequencies to Clear Channel Communications, Inc for IBOC experiments ? |
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September 10th 03, 04:08 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (N2EY) writes: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: Perhaps FCC will remove all code testing for amateur licenses. I would not be at all surprised if they did. Or perhaps FCC will retain some form of code testing for one or more license classes, as has been recommended by W3BE and others. One thing is clear, though: There is no "OVERWHELMING CLEAR CONSENSUS" involved. Yes there is. You just can't stand it so you whine and carry on in denial. Don't make such a scene in public with your denial whining. It spoils your image as a long-time superior amateur radio person. The denial whining is yours, Lennie. Mostly from not having been accepted as the expert you perceive yourself as being. The fact still remains that there is a large number of people in and out of Amateur Radio who see Morse Code testing as important and relevent to AMATEUR Radio...Not Military, Public Service or Commercial...A FACT that YOU seem to have a hard time differentiating. That difficulty stems from your gross lack of experience IN Amateur Radio as anything other than an armchair quarterback. Steve, K4YZ |
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#5
September 10th 03, 06:36 PM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (N2EY) writes: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: There are currently 7 petitions for Rule Making at the FCC ECFS...RM- 10781 through RM-10787. As of 10 AM Pacific Time on 8 Sep 03, those seven RMs had a total of 1,101 documents. The OVERWHELMING CLEAR CONSENSUS that comes from those comments is the abolishment of the morse code test for a US amateur radio license, any class. Not to anyone who understands what the word "consensus" means. You obviously don't. Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary, Prentice-Hall 1989, defines "consensus" as follows: "1 An opinion held by all or most 2 general agreement esp. in opinion." And the operative definition is #2. An examination, observation, or random sampling of the six RMs that have Comments will show that MOST of the respondents favor eliminating the code test. MOST to an overwhelming majority. Have you tallied all of the comments into categories and computed percentages of each category? I think not. You are simply relating your impression of what you saw, and you are not an unbiased observer. "Consensus" is not the same thing as "majority". Feel free to go into denial of the obvious. Your choice. I'll leave denial, whining and complaining to you. You're much better at it. ;-) However, FCC does not require a consensus in order to make a decision. Nor does FCC have to enact rules that agree with the majority opinion. Not being an "insider" to the workings of the FCC as you imply, I simply report what FCC has done in the past. FCC did not follow majority opinion on 98-143. The majority wanted at least two code test speeds. I'll just go along with the majority opinions on RM-10781 through RM-10787 as I see them on the public-access FCC ECFS database. So if the majority want to keep code testing, you will shut up and go away? ;-) Sounds like a promise from you. Oh wait, you wrote "opinions on RM-10781 through RM-10787 as I see them". Which means you can simply deny seeing any opposing comments. And you will. ;-) Perhaps FCC will remove all code testing for amateur licenses. I would not be at all surprised if they did. Or perhaps FCC will retain some form of code testing for one or more license classes, as has been recommended by W3BE and others. One thing is clear, though: There is no "OVERWHELMING CLEAR CONSENSUS" involved. Yes there is. No, there isn't. You just can't stand it so you whine and carry on in denial. I'll leave denial, whining and carrying on to you. You're much better at it. ;-) ;-) ;-) Don't make such a scene in public with your denial whining. Your transference is showing. It spoils your image as a long-time superior amateur radio person. Why are you, who styles himself as a long-time superior nonamateur radio person, so concerned? You get awfully upset when someone disagrees with you. You just can't deal with diversity of opinion, or strong opposition to your cherished views. |
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#6
September 10th 03, 07:33 PM
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Jim,
Answer: 1) Click on 'Message' 2) Click on 'Block Sender' 3) Click on 'Yes' to confirm Works wonders. -- 73 de Bert WA2SI "N2EY" wrote in message om... (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (N2EY) writes: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: There are currently 7 petitions for Rule Making at the FCC ECFS...RM- 10781 through RM-10787. As of 10 AM Pacific Time on 8 Sep 03, those seven RMs had a total of 1,101 documents. The OVERWHELMING CLEAR CONSENSUS that comes from those comments is the abolishment of the morse code test for a US amateur radio license, any class. Not to anyone who understands what the word "consensus" means. You obviously don't. Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary, Prentice-Hall 1989, defines "consensus" as follows: "1 An opinion held by all or most 2 general agreement esp. in opinion." And the operative definition is #2. An examination, observation, or random sampling of the six RMs that have Comments will show that MOST of the respondents favor eliminating the code test. MOST to an overwhelming majority. Have you tallied all of the comments into categories and computed percentages of each category? I think not. You are simply relating your impression of what you saw, and you are not an unbiased observer. "Consensus" is not the same thing as "majority". Feel free to go into denial of the obvious. Your choice. I'll leave denial, whining and complaining to you. You're much better at it. ;-) However, FCC does not require a consensus in order to make a decision. Nor does FCC have to enact rules that agree with the majority opinion. Not being an "insider" to the workings of the FCC as you imply, I simply report what FCC has done in the past. FCC did not follow majority opinion on 98-143. The majority wanted at least two code test speeds. I'll just go along with the majority opinions on RM-10781 through RM-10787 as I see them on the public-access FCC ECFS database. So if the majority want to keep code testing, you will shut up and go away? ;-) Sounds like a promise from you. Oh wait, you wrote "opinions on RM-10781 through RM-10787 as I see them". Which means you can simply deny seeing any opposing comments. And you will. ;-) Perhaps FCC will remove all code testing for amateur licenses. I would not be at all surprised if they did. Or perhaps FCC will retain some form of code testing for one or more license classes, as has been recommended by W3BE and others. One thing is clear, though: There is no "OVERWHELMING CLEAR CONSENSUS" involved. Yes there is. No, there isn't. You just can't stand it so you whine and carry on in denial. I'll leave denial, whining and carrying on to you. You're much better at it. ;-) ;-) ;-) Don't make such a scene in public with your denial whining. Your transference is showing. It spoils your image as a long-time superior amateur radio person. Why are you, who styles himself as a long-time superior nonamateur radio person, so concerned? You get awfully upset when someone disagrees with you. You just can't deal with diversity of opinion, or strong opposition to your cherished views. |
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