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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... I don't whine or nag. Yea, you pretty much do. I have a strong belief in my position code testing, and I am able to state it with clarity, passion, and conviction. But simply without any convincing debate points or ideas other than "do it, we all had to" and "do it because you are told to do it, you are a insert childish, juvenile personal attack here if you do not want to. You, Kim, and most of the NCTA appear to be limited to name-calling -- boy if that' isn't the pot calling the kettle black. WHO is doing the name calling? it's not the NCTA group calling the PCTA "lazy", "stupid", and an assortment of complex insults using spurious comparisons. Clint KB5ZHT -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
At least I have a conscience to examine. Your examination will have to be limited solely to the code license test. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ I wonder if when they ascend the golden stairway to the pearly gates and talk to St. Peter, if they will be looking around and asking where the key is so they can prove thier code profeciency to enter? g -- -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
YOU personally? or your PCTA buddies?
That was whome I was referring to, and it's been done by more than one and on more than one occasion... Want me to cut and paste them, or do you want to just back off and admit it's been done? Because I certainly will, if you like for me to. Clint -- -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- "Arnie Macy" wrote in message ... "Clint" wrote ... I believe that making references and using analogies that you guys are the adults and new, entry level hams are children pretty much describes a superior if not condescending attitude. __________________________________________________ ______________ That's a pretty big brush you've got there, Clint. Please reference *any* post I've made where I said, or implied that I consider no-code hams as children. I'll wait here. Arnie - KT4ST |
I suspect that Clint was actually referring indirectly to some of my posts as I have used the parent/child analogy and student/teacher analogy. However he likes to take this as meaning a superior and/or condescending attitude. And that's the way it is percieved. Thanks for helping. Clint KB5ZHT -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
However, Clint wants to challenge the issue from a point of inexperience and feels that he should be taken seriously. okay, is there anybody else who doubts the attitude now? Dang Dee D......you are really cutting his crap down to size. Dan/W4NTI No he didn't, it only found agreement with the a few other PCTA members such as yourself, but he didn't prove anything more than what I said was true. Clint KB5ZHT -- -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
hlink.net... Now why did I know you had to make a comment Clint? Here is one right back to you ...ten four? If the shoe fits, wear it. Have a nice day. Dan/W4NTI and if you guys need yet ANOTHER bit of evidence of such an attitude, keep scrolling down and you'll find more PCTA'er making them.... Clint KB5ZHT -- -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
link.net... I'm not talking about references or analogies, Clint. I'm talking about Larry's specific use of the word "superior" to describe those with code skills and the word "inferior" to describe those without such skills. Oh, okay... well, I figured a reference would be enough, and t hough I know i've seen the word superior itself used before, it just hasn't been with as much frequency as that of a mere attitude showing same... I think one is just as abhorrant as the other; what's more, it simply is not conducive to an environment that makes the hobby more attractive to new potential hams (and remarks have been made about that from newbies in here)... on the one hand, you read things in the ham radio books and mags about friendly and helpful communities in ham, peaceful coexistence in the ranks, etc.... And THEN you come in here and read some PCTA'ers downing, and I quote, "CBplussers", talking about "cobra HF radios" and using deragotory remarks using the old 11 meter 10 codes, talking about no code hf'ers, and one fellow even going so far as to recommend a new license type call for those who advance after the morse code testing is removed, so they can all be recognized by the old gaurd and "not talk to them".. how childish can you get! Clint KB5ZHT -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
... "Dwight Stewart" wrote ... On the contrary, Dwight. He has claimed in one of my threads that we are nothing more than knuckledraggers who don't understand modern technology. BZZZZZT! Wrong... (1) I have never used the term "knuckledragger" at all, nor have I called any of you guys one.... (2) I have never said that you "don't understand modern technology". All my comments have been to the effect that the PCTA crowd has an agenda that doesn't reflect the change in times and modernization of communications, both of which is suppose to be reflected in the ham radio community... I never said you didn't UNDERSTAND modern technology, I said you guys weren't willing to allow the testing to "advance the hobby into the modern age." As far as your remarks about me ignoring your questions, I haven't, I have simply answered the very same questions earlier to the others in here that share your side of the debate.. and, quite frankly, met with either diversion & dodging or personal attacks ultimately against me. Why repeat the same thing over and over, ad naseum? After the same thing is repeated about 5 times in a NG, it's for no other purpose than to pump up one's own pride or to flame. If you're going to quote me, I will forever follow and set the record straight. Go mischaracterize somebody else, not me. Clint KB5ZHT -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
. .. So in the end, he bears a striking resemblance to some of the more passionate CW'philes. Just a different side You're either a flamer or one who simply doesn't read many posts. I have repeated over and over and over that I like CW and my first several QSL cards were from CW contacts. My objections are to the testing of this mode (short answer, anyway). It's amazing how very few things get to and reach people on your side of the argument. I don't know how many times i've had to either defend my position on that regard, or defend the NCTA's position that it simply wants to remove CW testing, not CW... But I can't possibly believe this charge is genuine anyway, I think it's a diversion or a dodge because it's quite a concept EASY to understand, it just isn't being *heard*. Clint KB5ZHT -- -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
link.net... (snip) I would have to say that in principle that the more knowledge a ham has, the more likely he or she will be a superoir ham, (snip) heh, what was arnie macey saying? LOL Perhaps I'm too liberal for this discussion. I don't agree with the very concept of a superior ham. We're all individuals with unique skills, knowledge, and experience, to bring to the table, none of those superior or inferior to that offered by others. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) Trust me, being too liberal doesn't have anything to do with it. I am on your side of this discussion.. and I am anything BUT liberal. By admission I am very right wing, a very proud conservative politically. Clint KB5ZHT |
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