In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:


"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:


the PCTA crowd just said "six mega what ???"

you screwed up and mentioned something modern
and applicable in the real world.... they're trapped
in 1952.

Clint:

In exactly what way is transmitting 6 megapixel color images using
CW "applicable in the real world?"

This shouldn't take long. I shall use short words with few syllables so
that you can understand what I had said.

Clint:

Ah, the old "start off with an insult to the intelligence to the poster"
opening. A classic on Usenet, particularly on rrap. Well done -- you've
already lost your argument!

Obviously you flew over it
without any REAL discrimination to the actual wording.

Not really, but if it gives you comfort to think so, who am I to deny
you your little pleasure?

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.

Ah Ha! That makes one wonder why you mentioned it, then…

What I was saying is that the majority of the CW-using crowd is
trapped in a time warp that keeps them set back 30 years or so
(evident by thier "hell bent for leather" desire to keep cw testing
around), and wouldn't understand the concept of anything modern
(such as updating the various requirements in ham radio).

Well, we all know that this isn't true, just another specious
non-argument by a whining NCTA.

BTW -- if I'm "trapped in 1952" -- the year I was born, BTW, why isn't
a gallon of gasoline selling for 24 cents? Damn those time traps --
they're never around when you need them!

and, likewise, the cost of living along with the average wages were
considerably less.

True enough. I guess what we need is a selective "time trap" that just
"traps" prices.

My advice, in the future, is to think before you talk, lest your
foot winds up in your mouth and you look silly.

Yeah -- good thing I wasn't "talking."

"better to keep your mouth shut and have people WONDER
if your stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt."

And, you even finish with an insult to my intelligence. I'll say one
thing for you, my friend, you really have this Usenet thing dialed in!

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote ...

I snipped the rest because it is well known that my Emergency Management
Agency *uses* every piece of technology I listed -- and Len knows it too

Here Isabel is about to make landfall and Big Arnie is making all the
boasting in this newsgroup without being Out There helping to Save The Day
Through Ham Band CW.
_________________________________________________ __________________

Even after a year of killfile, I see that you have the same mantra, Len.

You never had me "killfiled," hypocrite.

You were busy "working to track Isabel for a year" or something similar.

You never did check out a working US Army field communications center
or even investigate the how and why of US Army comm use when you
were supposedly working for the US Army. You had ample time to do so.

But you never did and you had far more/easier access than most.

You must have found out an awful truth...that the US military does NOT
use any morse code for communications now!

Poor baby. Still bitter about that, huh?

You are trying to turn that bitterness around by making up more BS
about the morse code.

Doesn't work, Ah-nold...you aren't the Codinator from the future.

You are only carrying on a relic of the past.

"Ahl be back."

LHA



Ho
Hum boring -- as usual. Don't you ever get tired of being so wrong, so mad,
and so bitter all the time?

(Len Over 21) wrote in
:


You never had me "killfiled," hypocrite.

You were busy "working to track Isabel for a year" or something
similar.

You never did check out a working US Army field communications
center or even investigate the how and why of US Army comm use
when you were supposedly working for the US Army. You had ample
time to do so.

But you never did and you had far more/easier access than most.

You must have found out an awful truth...that the US military does
NOT use any morse code for communications now!



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Isn't there a category for the person who reads the troll's posts, and
then gives them the response they deserve, namely none?

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Robert" wrote in message
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.


well, I was just responding to his words he tried to
shove in my mouth.


It would only take 138.88 days.....

hey, we're rock'n!

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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"Robert" wrote in message
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.


well, I was just responding to his words he tried to
shove in my mouth.


It would only take 138.88 days.....

hey, we're rock'n!

Clint
KB5ZHT



It continues to amaze me how these no knowledge, no experience, code haters
think they know so much about the mode.

Dan/W4NTI

I don't know hardly any code haters myself. I myself aren't one, I
enjoy using it. Most the hams I know either love it or are indifferent
towards it, that is, they have no opinion on the use of CW one
way or the other.

It's the testing of a skill that you may or may not elect to use
that I think meets rejection.

Clint
KB5ZHT

In article k.net,
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

It continues to amaze me how these no knowledge, no experience, code haters
think they know so much about the mode.

Dan/W4NTI

It continues to amaze me how those no-knowledge, no-experience, code
lovers of amateur radio cannot get on the ball and overcome their
ignorance of all the other modes of communictions!

LHA

Ya PUTZ!


I like the part in the previous thread where the PCTA's accuse
the NCTA's of name calling.

OOPS, you're the one that just did that. My bad.

Clint
KB5ZHT

In article , "Robert" writes:

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.

Well, actually, you _could_. I don't have all the tech stuff handy
to determine just how large a 6 mega-pixel 24-bit color image would actually
_be_, so let's just call it a 6 megabyte file, making it, what, 48 million
bits? Now, how many bits in a 'word' of Morse, average? A dozen, maybe? So,
sending at, let's say, 20 wpm gives us a hypothetical bit-rate of 240
bits/min or 4 bits/sec, so we come out with a mere 12 million seconds to
transmit the image (I _swear_ I did not intend for that answer to come out
that simple!).
It would only take 138.88 days.....


Ah, but you forget an important step in the analysis!

One picture is worth a thousand words. Therefore, the time required to send a
"Morse picture" at 20 wpm is equal to 1,000/20 = 50 minutes with no
compression.

73 de Jim, N2EY