Dwight Stewart wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote:

Let's take a ignorant but intelligent bystander who sees
the words "No Code International".

Without a person or written material to pursuade him
that it really means No Code Test International, Tell
me the assumption that he is going to make.

Can you with a straight face, tell me that the person is
going to assume that it means elimination of the test?



I can tell you with a perfectly straight face that an uninvolved bystander
probably wouldn't think anything, simply because the issue doesn't mean
anything to him. As far as I can see, only an involved ham would have any
interest in NCI at all, and that type of person would surely know what the
debate is all about.

But you can't say that No-Code International just by looking at the
name means No Code test International, deflection attempts aside.



However, the words you quoted had nothing to do with NCI. They were
intended to address Jim's desire that everyone opposed to the code test must
specifically use the words "code test" during any discussion of the issue.

Doesn't hurt! You assume everyone has an in depth grasp of an issue?

Argue as you will, Dwight. I'm just saying in your desire to be "right"
you are taking a tack that to at least some of us looks a bit silly. If
some one told me I was being imprecise, Id apologize and be more precise
with them. YMMV.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo writes:

Dwight Stewart wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote:

Let's take a ignorant but intelligent bystander who sees
the words "No Code International".

Without a person or written material to pursuade him
that it really means No Code Test International, Tell
me the assumption that he is going to make.

Can you with a straight face, tell me that the person is
going to assume that it means elimination of the test?

I can tell you with a perfectly straight face that an uninvolved bystander
probably wouldn't think anything, simply because the issue doesn't mean
anything to him. As far as I can see, only an involved ham would have any
interest in NCI at all, and that type of person would surely know what the
debate is all about.

But you can't say that No-Code International just by looking at the
name means No Code test International, deflection attempts aside.

Keep on trolling for arguments, Mike, sooner or later someone will
bite on your bait. Try to avoid leaning too far over the gunwales or
something big will bite you.

Try to remember that No Code International was started by Bruce
Perens, long before an Amateur Extra tested at 20 WPM.

However, the words you quoted had nothing to do with NCI. They were
intended to address Jim's desire that everyone opposed to the code test must
specifically use the words "code test" during any discussion of the issue.

Doesn't hurt! You assume everyone has an in depth grasp of an issue?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Over-exaggeration again on the adjectives of
"in depth grasp."

You are already quite biased and rather adamant about it,
often going out of your way to pick a fight about code testing.

Argue as you will, Dwight. I'm just saying in your desire to be "right"

you are taking a tack that to at least some of us looks a bit silly. If
some one told me I was being imprecise, Id apologize and be more precise
with them. YMMV.

If someone told you that you are being overly aggressive about your
desire to pick a fight over word-quibbling, I'm sure you would be very
aggressive to them and want to start a fight about that... :-)

LHA

"Mike Coslo" wrote:

Doesn't hurt! You assume everyone has an in depth
grasp of an issue?


Not everyone, Mike. Just the ham operators who visit this newsgroup and
eventually participate in the code testing debate.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

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