"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that
Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites"
for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

Ryan,

If you have a 6 meter rig that can go mobile, you're set up to
measure/observe
(and report) BPL interference.

73 de Jim, N2EY

heh heh. Yeah, and any ham worth being a ham would have a 6-meter rig
that
can go mobile so they can measure/observe (and report) BPL interference.
Right?

Ducking
Kim W5TIT



Gawd I wish she would change her pills.

Dan/W4NTI

"James Wilson" wrote in message
. ..
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


The ARRL website has a recording. It would make things like the PA QSO
party (and other communications) nearly impossible.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
om...

"Ryan, KC8PMX" wrote in message
...
Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that
Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites"
for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!


Ryan KC8PMX
Midland, Michigan



Go to the sites. Check out the interference. If it's as bad as they say,
write the local commercial radio stations to say they are being interfered
with, write your congressman, and write the FCC.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Ryan, et al, PLEASE coordinate with Ed Hare, ... and don't
"write/contact your local commercial radio stations" UNLESS they ACTUALLY
ARE being interfered with AND you are ABSOLUTELY SURE it's BPL.

It is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that any reports/complaints of "BPL interference"
are REALLY BPL ... the amateur community is being accused by BPL proponents
of "exaggerating the problem (so the ARRL can raise money ... which is
absurd ...
if there weren't a threat they wouldn't HAVE to raise money to defend
against it ...).

We CANNOT AFFORD to miss-identify other sources of interference as "BPL"
or we just lend credence to the BPL folks' claim that we're "crying wolf."

I cannot overemphasize the importance of these points.

73,
Carl - wk3c

Please see my previous message about the necessity of making SURE
that any complaints of "BPL interference" REALLY ARE BPL.

73,
Carl - wk3c

"Robert Casey" wrote in message
...
Jim Hampton wrote:

Exactly. Also, don't just complain to the utilities as they will still
deny
getting complaints. I wonder if they are hiring any of the lawyers from
the
tobacco companies LOL




A CC list for complaints:

*Utility company
*FCC (radio, telecom, and cable depts)
*ARRL
*your congresscritter
*your senator
*your state's PUC (public utilitues commission)
*The senators or congressmen who fund the FCC
*Various broadcasters, particularly those on TV
channels 2, 3, 4 (as these are below 80MHz, the
high end of BPL). Also any shortwave broadcasters
in the USA except VOA (they are not allowed to care
about reception inside the USA).
*NTIA (who we share the 5MHz band with).

"James Wilson" wrote in message
. ..
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

The video on the ARRL website shows a couple of BPL variants ...
one that uses SS and another (test area 4) that uses OFDM.
They sound different.

Again, I cannot over-emphasize the importance of making SURE
that complaints of "BPL interference" are REALLY from BPL and
not some other source.

The LAST thing we need now is a bunch of people "crying wolf."
(Real complaints are one thing, crying wolf will only HURT us.)

73,
Carl - wk3c

The LAST thing we need now is a bunch of people "crying wolf."
(Real complaints are one thing, crying wolf will only HURT us.)

73,
Carl - wk3c

Start crying to the FCC about anything. If your Mower quits, call the FCC and
tell them its BPL causing it. Even if BPL is no where near you. If your Tires
go flat or LOW on AIR, tell them you saw Arcing from the Power lines to your
tires and it was BPL that did it. THE MORE COMPLAINTS THE BETTER.

We CANNOT AFFORD to miss-identify other sources of interference as "BPL"
or we just lend credence to the BPL folks' claim that we're "crying wolf."

What ever you do, STOP listening to KARL, hes just trying to get credit for
NCI.

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that
Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

Ryan,

If you have a 6 meter rig that can go mobile, you're set up to
measure/observe
(and report) BPL interference.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Not all of the BPL "pilot" deployments are using spectrum as high as 6m,
though they want to ultimately use "2-80 MHz" if they had large commercial
deployments of paying customers.

Carl - wk3c

In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that
Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

Ryan,

If you have a 6 meter rig that can go mobile, you're set up to
measure/observe
(and report) BPL interference.

73 de Jim, N2EY

heh heh. Yeah, and any ham worth being a ham would have a 6-meter rig that
can go mobile so they can measure/observe (and report) BPL interference.
Right?

IIRC, Ryan has mentioned being active on 6 meters. So there's a good chance he
has such a rig already.

73 de Jim, N2EY