"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
We CANNOT AFFORD to miss-identify other sources of interference as "BPL"
or we just lend credence to the BPL folks' claim that we're "crying
wolf."

What ever you do, STOP listening to KARL, hes just trying to get credit
for
NCI.

As most of you know, I normally simply ignore Bruce's idiotic rants,
but, just to set the record straight, my activity vis a vis BPL has nothing
to do with NCI ... therefore, there is NO attempt to "get credit for NCI"
for anything I do related to the BPL threat ...

Carl - wk3c

just to set the record straight, my activity vis a vis BPL has nothing
to do with NCI ... therefore, there is NO attempt to "get credit for NCI"
for anything I do related to the BPL threat ...

Carl - wk3c

Then BPL is a sure thing with Karl at the Helm

In article .net, "Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Kim W5TIT

Gawd I wish she would change her pills.

I wish you would start taking some... :-)

In article ,
(WA8ULX) writes:

We CANNOT AFFORD to miss-identify other sources of interference as "BPL"
or we just lend credence to the BPL folks' claim that we're "crying wolf."

What ever you do, STOP listening to KARL, hes just trying to get credit for
NCI.

BULL****.

Nowhere in Carl's work to document BPL have I seen any mention of the code
test, nor NCI.

BULL****.

Nowhere in Carl's work to document BPL have I seen any mention of the code
test, nor NCI.


It doesnt matter what he says, hes still mr NCI.

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
"Dan/W4NTI"
w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com writes:

Kim W5TIT

Gawd I wish she would change her pills.

I wish you would start taking some... :-)

Have I rattled your cage a bit Lenny ? I sure hope so. And BTW I could
care less what you think or say. I just hope I annoy the crap out of you.

Dan/W4NTI

www.arrl.org follow the links.

And yes its much worse than a contest. You wont even hear the contesters.

Dan/W4NTI

"James Wilson" wrote in message
. ..
What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?

BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Ryan, KC8PMX"
writes:

Just found out today listening to a local, reputable radio station that
Bay,
Saginaw and Midland Counties in Michigan are going to be "test sites" for
BPL, at least for Michigan. I don't know when it will be an actual
reality,
as opposed to being in the planning stages, but will keep current with
their
project!

Ryan,

If you have a 6 meter rig that can go mobile, you're set up to
measure/observe
(and report) BPL interference.

73 de Jim, N2EY

heh heh. Yeah, and any ham worth being a ham would have a 6-meter rig that
can go mobile so they can measure/observe (and report) BPL interference.
Right?

IIRC, Ryan has mentioned being active on 6 meters. So there's a good chance he
has such a rig already.

FWIW I haven't run into any documented instances of BPL operating as
high as 50 Mhz yet. The BPL signals I've listened to in the Emmaus PA
ran between 3 Mhz to somewhere just above 22 Mhz. That's pretty narrow
by "broadband standards". If/when they get more users doing who knows
what I suppose the BPL band edges will expand both up & down.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

"Dick Carroll" wrote in message
...
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:

"James Wilson" wrote in message
. ..

What does BPL sound like? Can someone post a wav file somewhere so it
can
be identified? Is it worse that the Pennsylvania QSO party?


The video on the ARRL website shows a couple of BPL variants ...
one that uses SS and another (test area 4) that uses OFDM.
They sound different.

Again, I cannot over-emphasize the importance of making SURE
that complaints of "BPL interference" are REALLY from BPL and
not some other source.

The LAST thing we need now is a bunch of people "crying wolf."
(Real complaints are one thing, crying wolf will only HURT us.)

73,
Carl - wk3c



You raise an interesting question, Carl. How exactly should the
average ham go about proving that the RFI is indeed BPL, when the BPL
people say
"That's not us!'??


BPL has a unique "signature" (in the spectral/time domains) that can be
used to ID it.

Since there are different systems (SS from main.net and OFDM from Amperion,
for example) they have different signatures, which are distinct from other
sources
of interference and more traditional power line noise (of course the
utilities are
responsible for fixing the latter, too ... though their record is poor).

Carl - wk3c

I submit that what is needed is detailed information.
Who is doing the testing? I think that only Consumers Energy
distributes electric power in that area - they would be the people to
ask.
Is more than one system being tested?
When will the tests take place?
From where to where is the test link?

With details one can plan for before and after testing. Who can
sniff out the details?
73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA
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