"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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In article ,

(N2EY) writes:

Maia et. al. are obviously leaving the door wide open to reduce or
eliminate
exclusive CW/data segments, even possibly moving toward a totally "open"
bandplan on all amateur allocations. I cannot support this. The main
pressure for band segment re-allocation will come primarily from users
of
SSB. This is simply because it's the easiest mode for any amateur to
implement in his/her own station,

I am NOT supporting phone band expansion, but I thought the
PCTA argument was that "CW was the easiest, simplest mode,
with the easiest to build equipment." ??? Why the turnabout???
(not that I agree that gear for other modes is any harder to
build than for CW ...)

and if there should be an increase in the
total number of licensed radio amateurs, that's where there will be a
need
for more "lebensraum."

OK, I'll bite ... what the hell is "lebensraum" ???

Carl - wk3c


"living room"

It was one of the phrases used by Germany to justify it's expansion. Since
it's been a few years since I studies history, I don't recall if it was WWI
or WWII.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

and if there should be an increase in the
total number of licensed radio amateurs, that's where there will be a
need
for more "lebensraum."

OK, I'll bite ... what the hell is "lebensraum" ???

Carl - wk3c


"living room"

It was one of the phrases used by Germany to justify it's expansion. Since
it's been a few years since I studies history, I don't recall if it was WWI
or WWII.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

It was WWII, or, more accurately, pre-WWII but post WWI. Hitler used
the term "lebensraum" as his justification for the conquest of Russia in
his book, Mein Kampf. He lusted after Russia's vast expanses of land
area in order to provide "lebensraum," or "living room" (space) for what
he thought should be the rightful expansion of the German nation. His
pursuit of "lebensraum" was one of his more severe acts of hubris during
WWII, which ultimately resulted in his defeat by wasting his military
resources on the second (Russian) front. Had he been willing to settle
for the conquest and control of the whole of Western and Central Europe,
he may have had the forces in place to resist the Allied invasion, and
thus given Germany the time to develop it's own atomic weapons. This,
of course, would have quite a dilemma for the Allies, since Hitler,
madman he was, would have then most likely employed his nuclear
arsenal -- most likely on Russia, England, and possibly the U.S. We,
of course, would have had to nuke him first to prevent that from
happening. Therefore, in a way, Hitler did the rest of the world a favor
in his futile attempt to conquer Russia conventionally. A military
genius he was not. If the Austrian Corporal had been a real General
instead, a lot of us may not be here today.

73 de Larry, K3LT

In article , ospam
(Larry Roll K3LT) writes:

Had he been willing to settle
for the conquest and control of the whole of Western and Central Europe,
he may have had the forces in place to resist the Allied invasion, and
thus given Germany the time to develop it's own atomic weapons. This,
of course, would have quite a dilemma for the Allies, since Hitler,
madman he was, would have then most likely employed his nuclear
arsenal -- most likely on Russia, England, and possibly the U.S. We,
of course, would have had to nuke him first to prevent that from
happening. Therefore, in a way, Hitler did the rest of the world a favor
in his futile attempt to conquer Russia conventionally. A military
genius he was not. If the Austrian Corporal had been a real General
instead, a lot of us may not be here today.

Nice theory but some would dispute it thusly:

The big mistake was not the invasion of the Soviet Union, but rather the twin
classic blunders of dividing one's forces and not being logistically prepared.
Had the invaders gone straight for their enemy's capital (Moscow), and been
properly prepared for the winter, the result might well have been very
different.

The German atomic program would not have come up with a workable atomic weapon
for many years (but the Allies did not know that). Look at what it took for the
Manhattan project to make three weapons!. And Germany did not have a delivery
system.

Germany also messed up bigtime by not giving U-boat production and development
top priority and support. Large amounts of their limited naval resources were
wasted on superbattleships like Bismarck and Tirpitz - had they built improved
U-boats with those resources, again the result might well have been very
different.

Then there's the Enigma story...

A good thing they weren't smarter.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article ,
(Chuck von Klauswitz Jr) writes:

In article ,

(Larry Roll K3LT) writes:

Had he been willing to settle
for the conquest and control of the whole of Western and Central Europe,
he may have had the forces in place to resist the Allied invasion, and
thus given Germany the time to develop it's own atomic weapons. This,
of course, would have quite a dilemma for the Allies, since Hitler,
madman he was, would have then most likely employed his nuclear
arsenal -- most likely on Russia, England, and possibly the U.S. We,
of course, would have had to nuke him first to prevent that from
happening. Therefore, in a way, Hitler did the rest of the world a favor
in his futile attempt to conquer Russia conventionally. A military
genius he was not. If the Austrian Corporal had been a real General
instead, a lot of us may not be here today.

Nice theory but some would dispute it thusly:

The big mistake was not the invasion of the Soviet Union, but rather the twin
classic blunders of dividing one's forces and not being logistically prepared.
Had the invaders gone straight for their enemy's capital (Moscow), and been
properly prepared for the winter, the result might well have been very
different.

Go for it all about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY big guys.

Was that how it was for you at the Point, Capt Jimmie?

The German atomic program would not have come up with a workable atomic
weapon
for many years (but the Allies did not know that). Look at what it took for
the
Manhattan project to make three weapons!. And Germany did not have a delivery
system.

Gernany had no delivery system? Gosh, they should have copied
the NATIONAL TRAFFIC SYSTEM from ARRL!

Could have morse-coded all those lil neutrons quick as a flash...

Germany also messed up bigtime by not giving U-boat production and
development
top priority and support. Large amounts of their limited naval resources were
wasted on superbattleships like Bismarck and Tirpitz - had they built
improved
U-boats with those resources, again the result might well have been very
different.

Then there's the Enigma story...

Gosh, you bigguys ought to switch chat room subjects to medicine.

You wouldn't be worried about enigmas. You'd be talking about
a pair-a-docs.

A good thing they weren't smarter.

Good thing you morsemen have a cozy lil chat room to talk all
about AMATEUR RADIO SUBJECTS, isn't it?

So, Capt. Jimmie, what outfit were you assigned to?

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(Chuck von Klauswitz Jr) writes:

In article ,

(Larry Roll K3LT) writes:

Then there's the Enigma story...

Gosh, you bigguys ought to switch chat room subjects to medicine.

You wouldn't be worried about enigmas. You'd be talking about
a pair-a-docs.

Why not give yourself an enigma, Len?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(Chuck von Klauswitz Jr) writes:

In article ,

(Larry Roll K3LT) writes:

Then there's the Enigma story...

Gosh, you bigguys ought to switch chat room subjects to medicine.

You wouldn't be worried about enigmas. You'd be talking about
a pair-a-docs.

Why not give yourself an enigma, Len?

No, no Dave. It's an enema, not an enigma. He needs to give himself an enema.


Dave K8MN

w3rv

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

You wouldn't be worried about enigmas. You'd be talking about
a pair-a-docs.

Why not give yourself an enigma, Len?

No, no Dave. It's an enema, not an enigma. He needs to give himself an enema.


Dave K8MN

w3rv

You should leave that to the professionals - call in Robo-Nurse.

Brian Kelly wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(Chuck von Klauswitz Jr) writes:

In article ,

(Larry Roll K3LT) writes:

Then there's the Enigma story...

Gosh, you bigguys ought to switch chat room subjects to medicine.

You wouldn't be worried about enigmas. You'd be talking about
a pair-a-docs.

Why not give yourself an enigma, Len?

No, no Dave. It's an enema, not an enigma. He needs to give himself an enema.

Darn! I always get those two words mixed up. I suppose I've misquoted
Churchill concerning Russia being wrapped in one of them.

Dave K8MN

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

You wouldn't be worried about enigmas. You'd be talking about
a pair-a-docs.

Why not give yourself an enigma, Len?

Dave K8MN

Dave:

He can't. He's too busy trying to decipher Morris Kode with an
Enema machine.

73 de Larry, K3LT

N2EY wrote:

The big mistake was not the invasion of the Soviet Union, but rather the twin
classic blunders of dividing one's forces and not being logistically prepared.

I don't know... making "boogie men" out of the most intellectually
gifted, innovating and striving part of his population, then
spending huge amounts of money and resources to exterminate them-
that sounds like a pretty stupid move to me.