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Old October 29th 03, 12:29 AM
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Larry,

I'd gently remind you that there wouldn't be any citizens (well, very few -
only the decendents of the original folks after the revolutionary war) at
all under those rules. My great-grandfather and my grandfather (when he was
7) immigrated to the US in the late 1800s (my dads side). My mother's
grandfather (my great-grandfather) immigrated from Canada. If their
children couldn't become citizens, I wouldn't be one now. Heck, how could
they hold a draft back in WWII with no citizens? Only draft foreigners?

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

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Old October 29th 03, 10:59 AM
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in
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Larry,

I'd gently remind you that there wouldn't be any citizens (well, very
few - only the decendents of the original folks after the revolutionary
war) at all under those rules. My great-grandfather and my grandfather
(when he was 7) immigrated to the US in the late 1800s (my dads side).
My mother's grandfather (my great-grandfather) immigrated from Canada.
If their children couldn't become citizens, I wouldn't be one now.
Heck, how could they hold a draft back in WWII with no citizens? Only
draft foreigners?

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

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They can draft foreigners, who can then refuse to actually go on the
ground of 'alienage'. This refusal is grounds to be refused a green card,
but it seems, as far as I can tell, that an alien who already had a green
card would not be affected in any way by refusing the draft. Also, an
alien on a visa could stay as long as they had a current visa, even though
refusing the draft would bar them from ever getting a green card. Bear in
mind, also, that aliens who come here after age 25, like me, can never be
drafted because we never get onto the selective service register. Of
course, there is no draft at present, but all these rules kick in if it is
ever reintroduced.
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Old November 2nd 03, 01:53 AM
Larry Roll K3LT
 
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Larry,

I'd gently remind you that there wouldn't be any citizens (well, very few -
only the decendents of the original folks after the revolutionary war) at
all under those rules. My great-grandfather and my grandfather (when he was
7) immigrated to the US in the late 1800s (my dads side). My mother's
grandfather (my great-grandfather) immigrated from Canada. If their
children couldn't become citizens, I wouldn't be one now. Heck, how could
they hold a draft back in WWII with no citizens? Only draft foreigners?

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


Jim:

The United States, like any other nation, has a right and a responsibility
to control it's immigration policies. I don't believe that in these modern
times it makes sense to grant automatic, natural citizenship to the
children of people from other countries who have not undergone the
legal immigration and naturalization process. Yes, it is true that we
are all the descendants of immigrants; however, the immigrants I
descended from all came into this country legally, and were legally
naturalized under the existing law. Considering how much this country
has to offer, especially in terms of welfare benefits which would turn
a poor immigrant from an impoverished nation into a person who would
be wealthy by comparison to those from his home country, I don't
believe it is too much to ask for them to obey the law.

As I stated previously, liberal immigration policies usually serve a political
purpose, rather than a purely humanitarian one. For this reason, I
think closing some of the loopholes and requiring that those who wish
to come to the U.S. and become citizens to follow the correct immigration
and naturalization procedures, makes good sense from a "homeland
security" standpoint.

73 de Larry, K3LT

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