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Old November 23rd 03, 06:52 PM
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Would you want to go back to the kinds of cars we had back then?


In a heartbeat!!!!! Most wonderful car I ever owned is a 1962 Chev

Corvair
Corsa convertible.


Woo-hoo, lemme have a 1969 Super-Bee! Alas, all I had was a 1973 Dart with a
318. I would've loved to have a 340 Dart with the bumble bee stripe. sigh

One other car that is probably my all time favorite is the 1973 European
Ford Capri. Not terribly fast, but wonderfully quick and pretty agile too. I
had the 2000cc 4 cyl. model but I'd love to drop a modern Ford 3.8l V6 in
one, if I could find one in acceptable cond'n.

73 de Bert
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Old November 26th 03, 09:27 PM
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Would you want to go back to the kinds of cars we had back then?


In a heartbeat!!!!! Most wonderful car I ever owned is a 1962 Chev
Corvair Corsa convertible.


Woo-hoo, lemme have a 1969 Super-Bee! Alas, all I had was a 1973 Dart with

a
318. I would've loved to have a 340 Dart with the bumble bee stripe.

sigh

One other car that is probably my all time favorite is the 1973 European
Ford Capri. Not terribly fast, but wonderfully quick and pretty agile too.

I
had the 2000cc 4 cyl. model but I'd love to drop a modern Ford 3.8l V6 in
one, if I could find one in acceptable cond'n.


Personally, as much as I like "certain" older cars (I have several
antiques),
the reality is that today's vehicles are pretty incredible. Better gas
mileage,
far better handling and they do last much longer in terms of total
mileage and/or years of age. My first new car, a 1964 Chevy Impala
convertible with 283 V8 generally got 18mpg. My 2003 Chevy Silverado,
4x4, Extended cab with a 327 V8 gets about 16-17 on average.

The more recent new cars I've owned have all made it well beyond the
150K miles before being sold or junked. Several went 200K+.
The new cars can run at 75mph all day and not falter in the
heat of summer or cold of winter.

Yes, I love the car club and occasional jaunt alone in my '61 Triumph TR-3,
but
it is the time warp element that makes it the fun event...plus the always
positive comments from bystanders at stopping point...that driving the
TR-3 is. For my day-to-day commute, however, I stick to my new
truck.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. If you like it, drive it.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



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Old November 26th 03, 09:46 PM
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"Bill Sohl" wrote

My 2003 Chevy Silverado, 4x4, Extended cab with a 327 V8 gets about 16-17

on average.

Your engine is too small.

My 2003 Silverado 2500HD turbo-charged 32-valve 6.6L V8 gets around 21-22
MPG on the highway, and 18MPG around town.

But my 1962 Corvair turbo-charged 12-valve H-6 got only around 13 MPG, but
it was a LOT more fun to drive, and the chicks dug it!

73, de Hans, K0HB




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Old November 26th 03, 09:53 PM
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My 2003 Chevy Silverado, 4x4, Extended cab with a 327 V8 gets about

16-17
on average.

Your engine is too small.


It has no problem towing a 5000 pound travel trailer around the northeast...
including the appalachians of PA.

My 2003 Silverado 2500HD turbo-charged 32-valve 6.6L V8 gets around 21-22
MPG on the highway, and 18MPG around town.

But my 1962 Corvair turbo-charged 12-valve H-6 got only around 13 MPG, but
it was a LOT more fun to drive, and the chicks dug it!


Like I originally said....for my daily commute, I'll take the truck.
Give me a nice two lane country road meandering about the hillsides
and I'll take the TR-3 (if it is a nice sunny and dry day). Rain and
the TR (or almost any vintage British sports car) are natural
opposites. :-) :-)

Cheers
Bill K2UNK



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Old November 26th 03, 10:03 PM
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"Bill Sohl" wrote :
"KØHB" wrote in message
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"Bill Sohl" wrote

My 2003 Chevy Silverado, 4x4, Extended cab with a 327 V8 gets about

16-17
on average.

Your engine is too small.


It has no problem towing a 5000 pound travel trailer around the

northeast...
including the appalachians of PA.


Your trailer is too small too!

My 2003 Silverado 2500HD turbo-charged 32-valve 6.6L V8 gets around

21-22
MPG on the highway, and 18MPG around town.


Has no problem pulling my 9,500 pound 5th-wheel camper AND my 2,500 pound
boat around all over, including the Rockies of CO, NM, AZ, etc.

Your engine is too small. ;-)

73, de Hans, K0HB





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Old November 27th 03, 01:37 PM
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"KØHB" wrote:
"Bill Sohl" wrote :

It has no problem towing a 5000 pound
travel trailer around the northeast...
including the appalachians of PA.


Your trailer is too small too!



I'm not that impressed either. My V-6 Ford Explorer Sport will tow a 5000
pound travel trailer. I tow a 4000-4500 pound boat several times a week. The
main problem is the short wheelbase, not engine power. But, while the short
wheelbase isn't so hot on the open road, it's perfect for getting around
town at slower speeds in traffic (and getting the boat into the water fast
at smaller, out of the way, boat ramps). But, to be fair to Bill, he did say
including mountains. My V-6 clearly isn't going to handle mountains very
well with that type of load and the gas milege will certainly reflect that.


Has no problem pulling my 9,500 pound 5th-
wheel camper AND my 2,500 pound boat
around all over, including the Rockies of CO,
NM, AZ, etc.



Now a 9500 pound 5th-wheel is impressive. The only vehicle I've owned that
could handle that type of load was the Ford F-250 extended cab diesel pickup
I had before this vehicle. It supposedly could tow 11000 pounds, though I
never pulled anything close to that weight.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

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Old November 27th 03, 01:13 PM
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"Bill Sohl" wrote:

Like I originally said....for my daily commute,
I'll take the truck. Give me a nice two lane
country road meandering about the hillsides
and I'll take the TR-3 (if it is a nice sunny
and dry day). Rain and the TR (or almost
any vintage British sports car) are natural
opposites. :-) :-)



The very best thing about European sports cars (including the British
ones) is that they're just agile enough to get you out of trouble when
you've done something stupid, like overestimated the car's, or your own,
abilities. Many years ago, I went though an intersection at about 85 mph
(the stupid part) in an MGB convertible. It was a narrow two lane road
crossing a four lane highway, the road didn't go straight through the
intersection (the road other side of the intersection was offset by about
twenty feet), and, very much to my surprise, the middle of the intersection
was considerably raised.

If I went straight though the intersection, I'd end up in a farmer's field
about twenty feet lower than the road's surface. If I overcompensated, I'd
hit the cars waiting on the other side. I had no doubts I could make the
slight twist in the road. What I didn't count on was the hump in the middle
of the intersection - hardly noticeable at normal speeds, but, at 80 mph,
enough to almost launch the car into the air.

As I went through the intersection, I hit that hump and felt the car shoot
into the air. I turned the steering wheel and the front tires simply
squealed. The farmer's field got a lot closer than I wanted. The car
dropped, the front wheels grabbed, and I was sliding sideways (straight
towards the cars on the other side). The car bounced into the air again. I
turned the steering wheel the opposite direction and the front tires
squealed again. The car came back down, the wheels gripped, and I slid
sideways into the lane I was supposed to be in. As the sliding stopped, I
was able to straighten out and continue on down the road.

During all that, as I shot past one of the cars waiting at the
intersection in the other lane, I got a quick glace of a smiling driver
clapping his hands. I, on the other hand, was not exactly a happy camper at
that particular moment (terror springs to mind). I never tried another stunt
like that. Any more playing around would be at a much safer location, under
much more predictable conditions. But I never got over my amazement of that
car's ability to handle the road.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

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"KØHB" wrote in message
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"Bill Sohl" wrote

My 2003 Chevy Silverado, 4x4, Extended cab with a 327 V8 gets about

16-17
on average.

Your engine is too small.

My 2003 Silverado 2500HD turbo-charged 32-valve 6.6L V8 gets around 21-22
MPG on the highway, and 18MPG around town.

But my 1962 Corvair turbo-charged 12-valve H-6 got only around 13 MPG, but
it was a LOT more fun to drive, and the chicks dug it!

73, de Hans, K0HB



A Corvair?!!??!! And you say chicks dug it??!!?? Ewww, I have never liked
those cars--they are my number one pick of yuckos, right behind Studebaker
which is the number one uglymobile... Most of us "chicks" in my hometown
felt the same way about those two makes of vehicles.

Kim W5TIT


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Old November 27th 03, 12:31 PM
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But my 1962 Corvair turbo-charged 12-valve H-6 got only around 13 MPG, but
it was a LOT more fun to drive, and the chicks dug it!


A Corvair?!!??!! And you say chicks dug it??!!??


If it happens, it must be possible.

Ewww, I have never liked
those cars--they are my number one pick of yuckos, right behind Studebaker
which is the number one uglymobile... Most of us "chicks" in my hometown
felt the same way about those two makes of vehicles.

Perhaps Hans is mistaken. Perhaps it wasn't the *car* that the chicks dug at
all.....

73 de Jim, N2EY


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