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"N2EY" wrote
But how much experience? Looks like someone could waltz in and get a full-privs ticket right away under that proposed system. Then you didn't notice the following sentence --- Holders of this license would be required to have 2 years experience as a licensee ("time in grade") before being eligible to upgrade to "Class A". 73, K0HB |
"Dee D. Flint" wrote:
Just a few short weeks ago, auroral activity imposed so much distortion on HF voice that it was not useable. (snip) Perhaps you mean HF voice was limited, not unusable. I wasn't aware that all HF voice communications, including short range, was impossible during that period. Regardless, a very temporary condition doesn't make a mode itself necessary in the overall scheme of Amateur Radio. Amateur Radio continued on during that period, even for those HF operators who simply decided to turn the radio off or to other frequencies during that period. At the same time, I heard no reports of emergency services, or other similar Amateur Radio activities, being seriously disrupted. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message link.net... "Dee D. Flint" wrote: Just a few short weeks ago, auroral activity imposed so much distortion on HF voice that it was not useable. (snip) Perhaps you mean HF voice was limited, not unusable. I wasn't aware that all HF voice communications, including short range, was impossible during that period. Regardless, a very temporary condition doesn't make a mode itself necessary in the overall scheme of Amateur Radio. Amateur Radio continued on during that period, even for those HF operators who simply decided to turn the radio off or to other frequencies during that period. At the same time, I heard no reports of emergency services, or other similar Amateur Radio activities, being seriously disrupted. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ For local communications, one has many choices and although one could use HF there are better frequencies for that and experienced hams know that. The choice for local work is generally going to be VHF. So when hams are talking about HF propagation and usage, they are talking about other than local communications. Long distance HF voice was unusable during that time for many locations (the north is affected worse by auroral but geomagnetic disturbances seem to have an equal effect everywhere). Such "temporary conditions" can happen several times a year. If one wants or needs to make other than local contacts then yes code is necessary. We've had several such occurrences in the last month. Auroral conditions and other items like geomagnetic storms can affect all the HF frequencies simultaneously. So for long distance communications under such conditions, changing bands or frequencies within HF is often of little help. Yes one could turn off the radio if they didn't know code but why place that limit on one's self? If the choice is to turn off the radio or use code then I'd say that code is indeed necessary whether or not it is an emergency. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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"KØHB" wrote in message hlink.net...
--- Holders of this license would be required to have 2 years experience as a licensee ("time in grade") before being eligible to upgrade to "Class A". Works for me! Would any sort of radio license count, or only amateur licenses? Would the experience have to be current? (not "my license expired 5 years ago") 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"N2EY" wrote
Would any sort of radio license count, or only amateur licenses? Would the experience have to be current? (not "my license expired 5 years ago") My inclination would be amateur experience only (insert here LHA and LHA(jg) rotors being spun up in mock indignation), and experience need not be current. 73, Hans, K0HB |
"N2EY" wrote
DO you really think it's mock indignation? No other explanation is believeable. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"N2EY" wrote
Even further back (70 years) the old Class A required a year's experience. Everything old is new again. Even further back (in 1919) the old Amateur First Grade was required to pass a 10WPM test in Continental Morse Even even further back (in 1913) the old Amateur First Grade was required to pass a 5WPM test in Continental Morse Even even even further back (in 1912) the old Amateur First Grade "must be able to transmit and receive in Continental Morse, but no speed rate will be prescribed." (Presumably 1 word per fortnight was sufficient.) Everything old is new again. Sunuvagun! de Hans, K0HB |
"Dee D. Flint" wrote:
(snip) If one wants or needs to make other than local contacts then yes code is necessary. (snip) If the choice is to turn off the radio or use code then I'd say that code is indeed necessary whether or not it is an emergency. I think you missed the point. Other than the emergency or public services we offer, any contact whatsoever is an avocation, not a necessity. Therefore, any mode needed to facilitate that would also not be a necessity. If one wants to use code during those periods, one can do so by learning code on his/her own. It is not necessary for the goals and purposes of the Amateur Radio Service at this point to mandate that learning through a testing requirement. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message hlink.net... "Dee D. Flint" wrote: (snip) If one wants or needs to make other than local contacts then yes code is necessary. (snip) If the choice is to turn off the radio or use code then I'd say that code is indeed necessary whether or not it is an emergency. I think you missed the point. Other than the emergency or public services we offer, any contact whatsoever is an avocation, not a necessity. Therefore, any mode needed to facilitate that would also not be a necessity. If one wants to use code during those periods, one can do so by learning code on his/her own. It is not necessary for the goals and purposes of the Amateur Radio Service at this point to mandate that learning through a testing requirement. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) A. I was discussing the USE of code itself not the testing. So the last two sentences in the above paragraph are not relevant to this discussion. B. No you missed the point. My point is that if you want to communicate then code can sometimes be necessary. I was not discussing emergency coms. I was discussing the pursuit of my hobby. I believe in minimizing the impact that propagation has on MY choice of when to participate in that hobby. The "choice" of turning off the radio simply because of not knowing code is not really a choice and is unacceptable. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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