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Old December 19th 03, 02:21 PM
Steve Robeson, K4CAP
 
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
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(Brian) writes:

Of this minority, the ARRL polled their little group in the mid-late
nineties, and came away with "no clear mandate." An even spilt within
the ranks of the true believers? So even at the time, something was
wearing away at the propaganda machine. I wonder what's happened
since then?


As I see it the schism is from the general attitude of long-timers
evolving into two main groupings: Those that mightily resist change
and those who can accept change.


You WOULD see a "schism", Lennie, but then since you are NOT a
part of Amateur Radio and do NOT have any experience in matters
pertaining TO Amateur Radio, yours is an uninformed opinion.

The first group wants a relatively inflexible hobby activity, generally
frozen...(SNIPPED)


You have yet to have this incessantly repeated assertion
validated by any substantial evidence, except for your own mindless
rantings, Your Scumminess.

The second group is accepting of change and they are not afraid of
it (although the constant advancement of all electronics does cause
some irritation). They are more interested in communicating and the
communication arts, are willing to try out new things. They have a
more realistic view of amateur radio as an avocational activity and
don't have it become their lifestyle. They don't mind the "fraternal
order" aspect (some enjoy that) but, at the same time, they are
into trying out new things of many kinds. Their emphasis is on
communicating, not the mode of communication.


You really do hate the "lifestyle" thing, don't you, Lennie?

It just irks the be-jeebers out of you that people do for
free-and-fun that which you only saw as a pecuniary pursuit.

Sucks to be you, Putz.

The first group...(SNIP)


"The first group" of "what", Lennie? From what poll or
demographics survey did you come up with ANY different "groups"...?!?!

A casual purusing of todays QST or CQ magazine compared with,
say, September 1955 will immediately shatter any more of your
assertions of "stuck" in past practices or technologies rants.

It should be clear that there will never be any "consensus" on
code testing as long as such beligerance remains rooted among
the self-styled elite morsemen of U.S. amateur radio.


So what you're saying is that until everyone sees it YOUR way,
there'll be no concensus, huh???

Arrogant Putz.

Steve, K4YZ
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Old December 20th 03, 09:50 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Brian)
Date: 12/20/03 2:21 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

Of this minority, the ARRL polled their little group in the mid-late
nineties, and came away with "no clear mandate." An even spilt within
the ranks of the true believers? So even at the time, something was
wearing away at the propaganda machine. I wonder what's happened
since then?

As I see it the schism is from the general attitude of long-timers
evolving into two main groupings: Those that mightily resist change
and those who can accept change.


You WOULD see a "schism", Lennie, but then since you are NOT a
part of Amateur Radio and do NOT have any experience in matters
pertaining TO Amateur Radio, yours is an uninformed opinion.


I have experience in matters pertaining to amateur radio.


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

OH YES, Brain! We have SEEN your "experience" in Amateur Radio! No
logs...Unsubstantiated claims...Inability to name even ONE person who may have
"worked" you from Somalia and have a T5/N0IMD card that could "validate" your
claims...?!?!

Yes Sir, I am soooooooooooooooo (un)impressed!

And I see the same thing.


No doubt you see a LOT of things, Brain!

Both of our opinions are validated by your daily postings.


Both of your opinions have the "support" of your years of failed rantings
in this forum, unsubstantiated claims, and YOUR acknowledged support and
admiration of a "man" who is a documented pathological liar!

So please....Tell me about your valued opinion again, Brain...?!?!

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ
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Old December 21st 03, 03:01 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From:
(Brian)
Date: 12/20/03 2:21 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message

...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

Of this minority, the ARRL polled their little group in the mid-late
nineties, and came away with "no clear mandate." An even spilt within
the ranks of the true believers? So even at the time, something was
wearing away at the propaganda machine. I wonder what's happened
since then?

As I see it the schism is from the general attitude of long-timers
evolving into two main groupings: Those that mightily resist change
and those who can accept change.

You WOULD see a "schism", Lennie, but then since you are NOT a
part of Amateur Radio and do NOT have any experience in matters
pertaining TO Amateur Radio, yours is an uninformed opinion.


I have experience in matters pertaining to amateur radio.


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

OH YES, Brain! We have SEEN your "experience" in Amateur Radio!


No you haven't - we've never had a QSO. I've had several QSO's with
Dave Heil.

No
logs...Unsubstantiated claims...Inability to name even ONE person who may have
"worked" you from Somalia and have a T5/N0IMD card that could "validate" your
claims...?!?!


I've operated from various loactions under various callsigns.

You haven't worked me under my Novice call, and you haven't worked me
with my Korean call. You never worked me from /KH2, you've never even
worked me from Nebraska, Illinois, Florida, nor Ohio. Why is it no
suprise that you didn't work me from Somalia?

And, NO, I won't forge a card for you.

Yes Sir, I am soooooooooooooooo (un)impressed!


You are singularly indistinctive.

And I see the same thing.


No doubt you see a LOT of things, Brain!


And I hear things, too. I hear the voices in your head. They have
that maniacal laugh, too.

Both of our opinions are validated by your daily postings.


Both of your opinions have the "support" of your years of failed rantings
in this forum, unsubstantiated claims, and YOUR acknowledged support and
admiration of a "man" who is a documented pathological liar!

So please....Tell me about your valued opinion again, Brain...?!?!

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !


You're the ranter and it's not working. You might want to try a new
approach, this one came up a bit short.
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Old December 21st 03, 02:16 PM
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Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Brian)
Date: 12/20/03 9:01 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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OH YES, Brain! We have SEEN your "experience" in Amateur Radio!


No you haven't - we've never had a QSO. I've had several QSO's with
Dave Heil.


It's not about having a QSO, BRAIN! It's about what you have claimed and
what you have done to substantiate those claims!.

No
logs...Unsubstantiated claims...Inability to name even ONE person who may

have
"worked" you from Somalia and have a T5/N0IMD card that could "validate"

your
claims...?!?!


I've operated from various loactions under various callsigns.


So have I, Brain. And I can substantiate them. I even have some of my
/JR6 logs left from 22 YEARS ago!

You haven't worked me under my Novice call, and you haven't worked me
with my Korean call. You never worked me from /KH2, you've never even
worked me from Nebraska, Illinois, Florida, nor Ohio. Why is it no
suprise that you didn't work me from Somalia?


It's no surprise that YOU have yet to provide even ONE record of that
activity, yet here you are AGAIN trying to defend it with the same "tactics"
taht have made you look so idiotic.

It's NOT about what I have done or NOT done, Brain...I am NOT the one
making the assertions!

And, NO, I won't forge a card for you.


Please don't. Lying is your mentor's bag.

And you may ask KC8MK how I handle QSL cards that aren't issued to me...
I got a bunch of his 160 meter QSL cards from the Buro by mistake (I used to be
KC8M...some DX mistook his second letter as "go ahead") Shipped some of his
cards to him. Destroyed those that he didn't want.

I don't need to bogus up anything...But thanks for expressing the idea
that you were thinking about it...I think THAT says more than anything!

Yes Sir, I am soooooooooooooooo (un)impressed!


You are singularly indistinctive.


Doesn't matter what I am, Brain...it's what YOU are NOT. "Factual"
and "truthful" come to mind at first...

And I see the same thing.


No doubt you see a LOT of things, Brain!


And I hear things, too. I hear the voices in your head. They have
that maniacal laugh, too.


They should...YOU make it soooooooo easy to laugh! You are quickly
becoming the Milton Berle of the NG! Thanks!

Both of our opinions are validated by your daily postings.


Both of your opinions have the "support" of your years of failed

rantings
in this forum, unsubstantiated claims, and YOUR acknowledged support and
admiration of a "man" who is a documented pathological liar!

So please....Tell me about your valued opinion again, Brain...?!?!

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !


You're the ranter and it's not working. You might want to try a new
approach, this one came up a bit short.


No, Brain, it didn't...I imagine it hit yuo right between the
eyes...Again.

Why don't you wise up and realise that you've made stupid assertions you
can't/won't validate, never WILL be able to validate, and just stop making a
fool of yourself...?!?!

Or is THAT the objective?

Steve, K4YZ




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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
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Date: 12/20/03 9:01 PM Central Standard Time
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OH YES, Brain! We have SEEN your "experience" in Amateur Radio!


No you haven't - we've never had a QSO. I've had several QSO's with
Dave Heil.


It's not about having a QSO, BRAIN! It's about what you have claimed and
what you have done to substantiate those claims!.


I have never claimed to have had a QSO with you. Yet you make claims
about knowing my "experience" in amateur radio. How could you
possibly know of my experience if you've never even heard me on the
air. Yet I've done a lot of operating from a lot of different places.

So much for your knowledge.

No
logs...Unsubstantiated claims...Inability to name even ONE person who may

have
"worked" you from Somalia and have a T5/N0IMD card that could "validate"

your
claims...?!?!


I've operated from various loactions under various callsigns.


So have I, Brain. And I can substantiate them. I even have some of my
/JR6 logs left from 22 YEARS ago!


I thought we were talking about your lack of knowledge of my amateur
radio experiences?

You haven't worked me under my Novice call, and you haven't worked me
with my Korean call. You never worked me from /KH2, you've never even
worked me from Nebraska, Illinois, Florida, nor Ohio. Why is it no
suprise that you didn't work me from Somalia?


It's no surprise that YOU have yet to provide even ONE record of that
activity, yet here you are AGAIN trying to defend it with the same "tactics"
taht have made you look so idiotic.


Everyone whom I've had a QSO with can have a QSL card if they wish
one.

It's NOT about what I have done or NOT done, Brain...


Oh, how true.

I am NOT the one making the assertions!


Yes you are. You assert that, like Len, my opinions concerning the
ARS don't count. Then you cite my operating experiences.

And, NO, I won't forge a card for you.


Please don't. Lying is your mentor's bag.


You are my mentor, Stebe.

And you may ask KC8MK how I handle QSL cards that aren't issued to me...
I got a bunch of his 160 meter QSL cards from the Buro by mistake (I used to be
KC8M...some DX mistook his second letter as "go ahead")


That is an assumption. Let the DXCC desk make the call.

Shipped some of his
cards to him. Destroyed those that he didn't want.


Bravo.

I don't need to bogus up anything...But thanks for expressing the idea
that you were thinking about it...I think THAT says more than anything!


You keep harping on it.

Yes Sir, I am soooooooooooooooo (un)impressed!


You are singularly indistinctive.


Doesn't matter what I am, Brain...it's what YOU are NOT. "Factual"
and "truthful" come to mind at first...


You are my mentor.

And I see the same thing.

No doubt you see a LOT of things, Brain!


And I hear things, too. I hear the voices in your head. They have
that maniacal laugh, too.


They should...YOU make it soooooooo easy to laugh! You are quickly
becoming the Milton Berle of the NG! Thanks!


You are the Rich Little... Go get help.

Both of our opinions are validated by your daily postings.

Both of your opinions have the "support" of your years of failed

rantings
in this forum, unsubstantiated claims, and YOUR acknowledged support and
admiration of a "man" who is a documented pathological liar!

So please....Tell me about your valued opinion again, Brain...?!?!

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !


You're the ranter and it's not working. You might want to try a new
approach, this one came up a bit short.


No, Brain, it didn't...I imagine it hit yuo right between the
eyes...Again.


Yet somehow I feel just fine.

Why don't you wise up and realise that you've made stupid assertions you
can't/won't validate, never WILL be able to validate, and just stop making a
fool of yourself...?!?!

Or is THAT the objective?


Stebe, my opinion that the ARS has a divide in it similar to the one
that Len mentioned is the objective of this exchange. You get off
track so easily. ADD?

Brian
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