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KØHB wrote: I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. a Homeresque: mmmmmmmmm....ICOM......drool... What a beautiful piece of equipment!! - Mike KB3EIA - |
"KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net...
I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. Wowee! I Like Ike(com)! |
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"Steven R. Adell - KF2TI" wrote:
In article , says... "KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net... I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. Wowee! I Like Ike(com)! And a Wowee price $9995.00 (discounted) KJI Electronics I'll just keep slogging along with my ancient Orion. For the price of a '7800, I could own three Orions. Dave K8MN |
In article k.net, "KØHB"
writes: I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing...." 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Wait a second Dave ....you don't understand ... that 7800's display is in
color and the Orion is in 50's BW I believe .... That in it self explains the price difference. God Bless 73 KI3R Tom Popovic Belle Vernon Pa.. I'll just keep slogging along with my ancient Orion. For the price of a '7800, I could own three Orions. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
"Steven R. Adell - KF2TI" wrote: In article , says... "KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net... I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. Wowee! I Like Ike(com)! And a Wowee price $9995.00 (discounted) KJI Electronics I'll just keep slogging along with my ancient Orion. For the price of a '7800, I could own three Orions. Dave K8MN But with the IC7800 you can save on forklift rental fees. |
garigue wrote:
Wait a second Dave ....you don't understand ... that 7800's display is in color and the Orion is in 50's BW I believe .... That in it self explains the price difference. Well, Tom, there you go. Don't forget those two additional 32-bit processors too. Color and the 2 additional processors cost an additional six grand. But wait a minute--Icom's soon-to-come-lately 7800 has fewer roofing filters and one less band stacking register per band. I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. Drop by sometime. I'm only 35 miles west of Waynesburg. Dave K8MN God Bless 73 KI3R Tom Popovic Belle Vernon Pa.. I'll just keep slogging along with my ancient Orion. For the price of a '7800, I could own three Orions. Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... "Steven R. Adell - KF2TI" wrote: In article , says... "KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net... I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. Wowee! I Like Ike(com)! And a Wowee price $9995.00 (discounted) KJI Electronics I'll just keep slogging along with my ancient Orion. For the price of a '7800, I could own three Orions. Dave K8MN I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The latest upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. 73 de Bert WA2SI |
"Bert Craig" wrote I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. First of all, I don't think he'd be poor, and why are you calling me a slob? I'm placing my order. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"KØHB" wrote in message
link.net... "Bert Craig" wrote I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. First of all, I don't think he'd be poor, and why are you calling me a slob? I'm placing my order. 73, de Hans, K0HB I stand corrected, Hans...and still lol. ;-) 73 de Bert WA2SI |
Bert Craig wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... "Steven R. Adell - KF2TI" wrote: In article , says... "KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net... I'm in love..... http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products...7800/index.htm ....or maybe in lust. Wowee! I Like Ike(com)! And a Wowee price $9995.00 (discounted) KJI Electronics I'll just keep slogging along with my ancient Orion. For the price of a '7800, I could own three Orions. Dave K8MN I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The latest upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. TT just keeps making it better and better. The rig is now about eight months old and I've downloaded about ten firmware releases in that time. Dave K8MN |
"KØHB" wrote:
"Bert Craig" wrote I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. First of all, I don't think he'd be poor, and why are you calling me a slob? I'm placing my order. *Free Advice* *No strings attached* *Absolutely FREE* Call Ten-Tec and have 'em ship you an Orion. If you don't fall in love with it within the first thirty days, return it for a full refund (less shipping charges). You can buy a fancy new four-wheeler with the extra change you'd spend on the '7800. Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... "KØHB" wrote: "Bert Craig" wrote I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. First of all, I don't think he'd be poor, and why are you calling me a slob? I'm placing my order. *Free Advice* *No strings attached* *Absolutely FREE* Call Ten-Tec and have 'em ship you an Orion. If you don't fall in love with it within the first thirty days, return it for a full refund (less shipping charges). You can buy a fancy new four-wheeler with the extra change you'd spend on the '7800. Dave K8MN Not to mention, support a product made in the USA. 73 de Bert WA2SI |
"Bert Craig" wrote Not to mention, support a product made in the USA. Ya mean like an AMC Gremlin, or an MFJ (anything they make), or Budweiser beer? I'll do my part for the hillbilly economy and support Jack Daniels. You and Dave can support TenTec. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The latest upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. TT just keeps making it better and better. The rig is now about eight months old and I've downloaded about ten firmware releases in that time. "FIRMWARE releases?!?" Gosh, you must be equipped with a Star Trek Transporter! :-) Oh, you mean SOFTWARE updates, right? Let's see, that's more than one per month. I would think that Orion could have stabilized the programming by now. No new band changes have happened in eight months... :-) Gosh, Orion must "not be interested in radio" if they can't get their software routines stabilized by now... LHA |
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"KØHB" wrote:
"Bert Craig" wrote Not to mention, support a product made in the USA. Ya mean like an AMC Gremlin, or an MFJ (anything they make), or Budweiser beer? No, more like a Dodge Viper, a GE refrigerator or a Rolling Rock beer. I'll do my part for the hillbilly economy and support Jack Daniels. You and Dave can support TenTec. I'm getting something which lasts and which produces no unpleasant after effects. It also costs several magnitudes less than the '7800. Dave K8MN (Don't feel obligated to use my callsign) |
N2EY wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig? Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... "KØHB" wrote: "Bert Craig" wrote Not to mention, support a product made in the USA. Ya mean like an AMC Gremlin, or an MFJ (anything they make), or Budweiser beer? No, more like a Dodge Viper, a GE refrigerator or a Rolling Rock beer. Well said, Dave. On a more personal AR level...more like an Elecraft K2/100, a Palstar AT1500C transmatch, and...oops, I don't drink. hihi I'll do my part for the hillbilly economy and support Jack Daniels. You and Dave can support TenTec. I'm getting something which lasts and which produces no unpleasant after effects. It also costs several magnitudes less than the '7800. Here here. Dave K8MN (Don't feel obligated to use my callsign) 73 de Bert WA2SI |
Len Over 21 wrote:
Brian, "real" radios are ANALOG. When this comes back to bit you down the line, reflect upon the fact that only you have made such a statement here. Real he-men morsemen don't use digital. How would you know, kindly old gent? Digital is for techno-weebs who "don't have any interest in radio!" Dave (who is interested in radio because he learned morse) can download FIRMWARE for his Orion! You never quite get things right. Dave is interested in radio. Dave has been a licensed radio amateur for four decades. Dave knows morse. Dave can and does download firmware for his Orion. You too can download Orion firmware but it won't do much for you unless you buy an Orion. Dave K8MN |
Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The latest upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. TT just keeps making it better and better. The rig is now about eight months old and I've downloaded about ten firmware releases in that time. "FIRMWARE releases?!?" Yes, firmware releases. Gosh, you must be equipped with a Star Trek Transporter! :-) No, just a PC with an internet connection. Oh, you mean SOFTWARE updates, right? No, I don't. I mean firmware updates. Let's see, that's more than one per month. - Version 1.325 - initial release 03/26/03 Version 1.326 03/27/03 Version 1.327 03/28/03 Version 1.328 03/31/03 Version 1.329 04/01/03 Version 1.330 04/02/03 Version 1.331 04/03/04 Version 1.332 04/04/03 Version 1.333 04/06/03 Version 1.334 04/07/03 Version 1.335 04/08/03 Version 1.336 04/10/03 Version 1.337 04/11/03 - 04/13/03 Version 1.338 04/14/03 - 04/16/03 Version 1.339 04/26/03-05/06/03 Version 1.340 05/12/03-05/14/03 Version 1.341 05/19/03-05/22/03 Version 1.342 05/27/03 Version 1.343 06/03/03 Version 1.344 06/06/03 Version 1.345 06/11/03 Version 1.346 06/13/03 Version 1.347 06/25/03 Version 1.348 07/08/03 Version 1.349 07/10/03 VERSION 1.350 07/29/03 Version 1.351 08/07/03 Version 1.352 08/11/03 Version 1.353 08/12/03 Version 1.354 08/15/03 Version 1.355 08/19/03 Version 1.356 08/21/03 Version 1.357 08/22/03 Version 1.358 08/25/03 Version 1.359 09/12/03 Version 1.360 09/16/03 Version 1.361 09/25/03 Version 1.362 10/06/03 Version 1.363 10/22/03 Version 1.364 10/23/03 Version 1.365 11/14/03 Version 1.366 12/19/03 Version 1.367 Well, it certainly looks like more than one per month, doesn't it old fellow? Interestingly, the manufacturer lists the above list under "Firmware Revision History". I would think that Orion could have stabilized the programming by now. No new band changes have happened in eight months... :-) Really? I seem to recall adding 60m capability to the Orion. Weren't you paying attention? Were you under the impression that "band changes" were the only things which could be modified in the Orion? Gosh, Orion must "not be interested in radio" if they can't get their software routines stabilized by now... "Orion" isn't? It would seem that the Ten-Tec folks would show their lack of interest by not issuing any updates at all. You may resume your nap, Leonard. Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote No, more like a Dodge Viper, a GE refrigerator or a Rolling Rock beer. If you'd drink Rolling Rock beer, then you'd probably drive an AMC Gremlin, wear a badge laden jumpsuit to a hamfest, and date Moms Mabley. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"KØHB" wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote No, more like a Dodge Viper, a GE refrigerator or a Rolling Rock beer. If you'd drink Rolling Rock beer, then you'd probably drive an AMC Gremlin, wear a badge laden jumpsuit to a hamfest, and date Moms Mabley. C'mon, Hans. They don't make Gremlins any longer, I've never parachuted into the Dayton fleamarket and Moms Mabley has been dead for years. In honesty, I did buy a Chevy Vega back in '73 (much to my regret), have worn a navy blue, velvet cap with scrambled eggs on the bill and my call embroidered on the front (a gift from old salt K3FK) and I once went out with a female jailer from Savannah who kept talking about cuffs, shackles and body slams. Those things aside, the Orion is built in the U.S. and is one fine transceiver. Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote Those things aside, the Orion is built in the U.S. and is one fine transceiver. Yes it is, and yes it is. Did you see ON4UN's review in the current NCJ? Very complimentary. But Rolling Rock beer ranks about .001 on a scale of 1 to 10, where "4" is "barely drinkable". (Yes, that means it needs to improve 1000-fold be be a "1".) 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"KØHB" wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote Those things aside, the Orion is built in the U.S. and is one fine transceiver. Yes it is, and yes it is. Did you see ON4UN's review in the current NCJ? Very complimentary. It showed on the TT reflector and I saw it there. I also find it quite satisfying to wish that the transceiver would do something, to send those wishes to TT and to have them incorporate them in a firmware release. But Rolling Rock beer ranks about .001 on a scale of 1 to 10, where "4" is "barely drinkable". (Yes, that means it needs to improve 1000-fold be be a "1".) Actually, aside from a couple of Karjalainen brews in Helsinki in October, my yearly beer intake is about four bottles. I mostly stick to vodka or with Jack Daniels and branch water. Dave K8MN |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: N2EY wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig? Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog. But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
N2EY wrote:
In article , Dave Heil writes: N2EY wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig? Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog. I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig? I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to fiddle with those coils. But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago. Those things are developing some nostalgia value these days. Dave K8MN |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: N2EY wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: N2EY wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig? Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog. I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig? Affirmative. I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to fiddle with those coils. Mine may need a new mike. Ironic. But my shack clock is digital. It's a Tymeter 24-hour one, made from the parts of three junkers more than 15 years ago. Those things are developing some nostalgia value these days. In some ways clock technology has gone backwards. I remember when almost all clocks ran on synchronous motors, like my Tymeter. The power co. kept track of the Hz and would keep the total number of cycles-per-year pretty dern accurate. I found that all my motor-clocks would stay in step with WWV give or take a second or to for as long as the power was on. Then came "digital quartz technology" - and no two clocks read alike. Set them all to the same time and in a few months they're all over the place. The newer computers actually seem to keep worse time than the older ones... But my Tymeter grinds on, flipping the drums. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: N2EY wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig? Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog. I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig? I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to fiddle with those coils. I hope he's not trying to get back at America because of you. |
Brian wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... N2EY wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: N2EY wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... I also like my real analog meter better than a digital simulation. My Southgate Type 7 has *two* real analog meters. Nice easy-to-read round 3-1/2 inch ones. Also Made In USA. Do you refer to it as your (get ready for it) two meter rig? Nope. That's a Heath HW-2036. Only has one meter - analog. I'm getting confoozed! Your two meter rig is a one meter rig? I remember the '2036 and used to own one. I spent a lot of time fiddling with those VCO coils in the thing. It belongs to a Lebanese ham in Sierra Leone now. He's probably cursing me every time he has to fiddle with those coils. I hope he's not trying to get back at America because of you. But what does all this have to do with Kim's callsign? - Mike KB3EIA - |
In article , Dave Heil
writes: Actually, aside from a couple of Karjalainen brews in Helsinki in October, my yearly beer intake is about four bottles. I mostly stick to vodka or with Jack Daniels and branch water. Dave K8MN Dave: OK, I give up -- what the Sam Hill is "branch water?" I heard it mentioned a few times on the old TV program "Dallas," when J.R. Ewing used to order a "bourbon and branch" at the Ahwl (Oil) Baron's Club. Is it water that dripped off a tree branch during the rain, or did it come from a branch tributary of some particular river, or what? Or is it just another way of saying "Club Soda," as I suspect? 73 de Larry, K3LT |
In article t, "KØHB"
writes: No, more like a Dodge Viper, a GE refrigerator or a Rolling Rock beer. If you'd drink Rolling Rock beer, then you'd probably drive an AMC Gremlin, wear a badge laden jumpsuit to a hamfest, and date Moms Mabley. 73, de Hans, K0HB Hansl: I drink Corona, drive an '03 Toyota Corolla LE, wear a pair of Dockers and a pullover shirt to hamfests (no badges except my ARRL OBS Call Sign Badge), date a single Mom not named "Mabley," and will probably never own an ICOM IC-7800 for the simple fact that with the 10 kilobucks I could buy an IC-746, a tower, a big antenna farm, and lots of other stuff, and still have a chunk of change left over! If I ever win the Powerball Lottery, I still don't know if I'd invest in a 7800, although there would be little reason not to under those circumstances! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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In article , Dave Heil
writes: Len Over 21 wrote: In article , Dave Heil writes: I believe that's the beauty of the Orion, it's never "ancient." The latest upgrade is just a download away. I feel for the poor slob who finally breaks down and buys a '7800 just before the '7800 Pro or Pro II comes out. TT just keeps making it better and better. The rig is now about eight months old and I've downloaded about ten firmware releases in that time. "FIRMWARE releases?!?" Yes, firmware releases. Gosh, you must be equipped with a Star Trek Transporter! :-) No, just a PC with an internet connection. Oh, you mean SOFTWARE updates, right? No, I don't. I mean firmware updates. Get it straight, Herr Robust. "Firmware" is hardware. There is NO computer system anywhere in the world that will "download firmware." Let's see, that's more than one per month. - Version 1.325 - initial release 03/26/03 Version 1.326 03/27/03 Version 1.327 03/28/03 Version 1.328 03/31/03 Version 1.329 04/01/03 Version 1.330 04/02/03 Version 1.331 04/03/04 Version 1.332 04/04/03 Version 1.333 04/06/03 Version 1.334 04/07/03 Version 1.335 04/08/03 Version 1.336 04/10/03 Version 1.337 04/11/03 - 04/13/03 Version 1.338 04/14/03 - 04/16/03 Version 1.339 04/26/03-05/06/03 Version 1.340 05/12/03-05/14/03 Version 1.341 05/19/03-05/22/03 Version 1.342 05/27/03 Version 1.343 06/03/03 Version 1.344 06/06/03 Version 1.345 06/11/03 Version 1.346 06/13/03 Version 1.347 06/25/03 Version 1.348 07/08/03 Version 1.349 07/10/03 VERSION 1.350 07/29/03 Version 1.351 08/07/03 Version 1.352 08/11/03 Version 1.353 08/12/03 Version 1.354 08/15/03 Version 1.355 08/19/03 Version 1.356 08/21/03 Version 1.357 08/22/03 Version 1.358 08/25/03 Version 1.359 09/12/03 Version 1.360 09/16/03 Version 1.361 09/25/03 Version 1.362 10/06/03 Version 1.363 10/22/03 Version 1.364 10/23/03 Version 1.365 11/14/03 Version 1.366 12/19/03 Version 1.367 Well, it certainly looks like more than one per month, doesn't it old fellow? Interestingly, the manufacturer lists the above list under "Firmware Revision History". All that many updates? Tells me they didn't know what they were doing to begin with, or just shoved software and hardware out the door before they had finished testing the firmware and software. I would think that Orion could have stabilized the programming by now. No new band changes have happened in eight months... :-) Really? I seem to recall adding 60m capability to the Orion. Weren't you paying attention? Were you under the impression that "band changes" were the only things which could be modified in the Orion? Apparently it can also TRANSPORT material things as they did on Star Trek. Perhaps they should have beamed up some smarts to release the RIGHT code the first time... Gosh, Orion must "not be interested in radio" if they can't get their software routines stabilized by now... "Orion" isn't? It would seem that the Ten-Tec folks would show their lack of interest by not issuing any updates at all. You may resume your nap, Leonard. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Oh, my, you drone on busy prussian bee. It's like listening to a lecture on 1800s science...all done by amateurs. Nothing new, same old "landfill" remarks from the prussian. LHA / WMD |
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