"Alun" wrote in message
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I beleive the R2 bandplan allows phone down to 7045, same as R1. In R3
it's
7030! R2 hams operatong phone 'on 7050 and lower' are abiding by the ITU
bandplan unless they go below 7045.

Keep in mind that outside the US, those are just band plans. According to
postings I read elsewhere, they are ignored with some regularity. It
becomes even more common to ignore them during some contests.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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"Alun" wrote in message
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I beleive the R2 bandplan allows phone down to 7045, same as R1. In R3
it's 7030! R2 hams operatong phone 'on 7050 and lower' are abiding by
the ITU bandplan unless they go below 7045.

Keep in mind that outside the US, those are just band plans. According
to postings I read elsewhere, they are ignored with some regularity.
It becomes even more common to ignore them during some contests.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



I can't speak for hams in every country in the world, but being originally
from the UK I would say that most there would be horrified at the idea of
operating phone below 7040, for example. The cutoff used to be 7040 before
they set aside 7035-7045 for RTTY. That is one aspect of it being
voluntary, you will find people who continue to use a frequency after the
bandplan is changed. In a similar way, phone is supposed to be above 14.112
on 20, but it used to be 14.100. The RTTY sections were carved out of the
top of CW and the bottom of phone.

Phone below 7.040 or below 14.100 is not something I hear when I tune
around. It's easy for US hams to form an impression that there are lots of
DX hams operating phone on CW frequencies, but there really aren't. It's
just that few realise how far down phone extends in the IARU bandplans.

Contests are another matter, but that cuts both ways, i.e. you will also
find CW on phone frequencies during CW contests.

73 de Alun, N3KIP (Ex-G8VUK, G0VUK)

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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in
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"Alun" wrote in message
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I beleive the R2 bandplan allows phone down to 7045, same as R1. In R3
it's 7030! R2 hams operatong phone 'on 7050 and lower' are abiding by
the ITU bandplan unless they go below 7045.

Keep in mind that outside the US, those are just band plans. According
to postings I read elsewhere, they are ignored with some regularity.
It becomes even more common to ignore them during some contests.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



I can't speak for hams in every country in the world, but being
originally
from the UK I would say that most there would be horrified at the idea of
operating phone below 7040, for example. The cutoff used to be 7040 before
they set aside 7035-7045 for RTTY. That is one aspect of it being
voluntary, you will find people who continue to use a frequency after the
bandplan is changed. In a similar way, phone is supposed to be above
14.112
on 20, but it used to be 14.100. The RTTY sections were carved out of the
top of CW and the bottom of phone.

Phone below 7.040 or below 14.100 is not something I hear when I tune
around. It's easy for US hams to form an impression that there are lots of
DX hams operating phone on CW frequencies, but there really aren't. It's
just that few realise how far down phone extends in the IARU bandplans.

Contests are another matter, but that cuts both ways, i.e. you will also
find CW on phone frequencies during CW contests.

73 de Alun, N3KIP (Ex-G8VUK, G0VUK)

As far as the phone goes, I'm reporting what I've read posted by Europeans
rather than my own impressions.

At least for US CW contests, I don't find the CW climbing into the phone
portions. In some cases the rules specifically state that the contacts are
to be limited to the "traditional" CW portion. In the remainder of the
cases, we're just so conditioned to sticking below the split point that we
stay there anyway in a contest. Although the contesters do ignore the
digital, etc bandplan recommendations.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE