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February 4th 04, 12:52 AM

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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
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(William) wrote in message
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Dave Heil wrote in message
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As used in regard to amateur radio licensing, hazing may be
considered
to be anything that one thinks he can't do or simply refuses to do.

Dave K8MN

I simply refuse to work French amateurs out of band.

Do you have a reference of all international band allocations so
that when an Amateur of ANY nationality answers your call, you can
quickly look up that nations's regulations and determine the alidity
of that station's operation?

That's what you're suggesting.

Steve, K4YZ

No, Steve, I'm not suggesting that at all. Notice that I referenced
one country, and that was France. See above. A French amateur
replied to Dave what the French 6 Meter allocations were, and another
ham on here verified the allocations via a French telecom website.
Its really not as hard as you think it is.

Sure it is...If we do it for "the French", then why not the
Russians, Poles, Czechs, South Africans, etc etc etc...?!?!

I didn't say that. I said "if you knew that they were operating out
of band, would you work them anyway?"

No one other than Dave, and now you, has ever proposed having to know
all amateur allocations at all times.

The question was, "if you knew..."

Are you saying that you would knowingly work out of band amateurs?

So if you know that Frenchmen are on 6 Meters out of band, do you keep
working them? What if it's a downtown Dar el Salam hazing ritual?

How am I to know from one day to the next what a Frrenchman's
allocations are?

You're not being asked to.

I asked "if you knew that they were operating out of band, would you
work them anyway?"

No one other than Dave, and now you, has ever proposed having to know
all amateur allocations at all times.

The question was, "if you knew..."

Are you saying that you would knowingly work out of band amateurs?

He might. To paraphrase, "lonely are the brave." :-)

Thier government is just as likely as ours is to
change the rules, so without keeping a database of some sort on
EVERYONE'S allocations, how is a prudent American Amateur to know if
the guy/gal he's working is "legit" or not?

That wasn't the question, and you know it. Just another diversion.
But I'll bet they're the same as when Dave was working out-of-banders
in downtown Dar es Salaam.

So many Dave apologists, so little time.

Go easy on Dave. He is busy revolutionizing the Internet by using
it as a transporter to download hardware.

Important work. Actual pioneering.

After that, who knows? He might invent transparent aluminum
and tell Scotty all about it.

He'll go where no ham has gone before...

LHA / WMD

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