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Old April 6th 04, 05:42 PM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Proposal to rename RRAP ... (was - New Candidate for
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Date: 4/5/2004 1:45 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,

(Holy man, mad as heck and not taking it anymore) writes:


So here's a challenge for you, Len:

Let's see you set the example of "civil debate". That means no
name-calling, no little digs at other people's jobs, names, license
classes, ethnicities or religions, no making fun of their favorite
modes. It also means clear distinctions between facts and opinions.


Please give us the entire listing of what is correct.

Please issue the proper and correct stage directions so that
all may act upon it without error.

Please, your holiness, lead us not into temptation of the
terrible independent thought!

All shall be as you ordain, all shall be right with the world.

And it means behaving that way even if someone disagrees with you, or
disproves some claim you make here.


Yea, verily we shall all strive to act in the manner you have
shown us as leadership, your holiness.

Go ahead, Len. Show us how it's done. I'll follow if you lead. If you
choose to behave the way you typically have done here for the past 7
years or so, I'll just ignore you.


Oh! Please! Not that! To be ignored by the Holiest of Holy Men!

I stand abshed with head bowed before your majestic divinity
and humbly ask forgiveness for having the temerity to express
independent thought.


Jim, I think this pretty well answered any "questions" about Lennie's
ability or willinginess to be "civil".


Steve,

The use of name-calling, insults, and other personal attacks is often
an indication that the attacker does not have a counterargument.
Rather than admit that he or she is mistaken, the attacker tries to
divert attention from the facts. We see this in the very first line of
Len's post:

"(Holy man, mad as heck and not taking it anymore)"

and continuing all through it.

Also, this sort of behavior tries to get the person attacked to reply
in kind. If that happens, the attacker has "won" because he or she has
dragged the attacked person down to the attacker's level, and has
avoided the actual subject of discussion completely. The fact that the
attacker was wrong is lost in the noise.

So your use of words like "Lennie", "putz", "loser", and "idiot" (to
name just a few) actually gives Len exactly what he wants.

It's like the situation where a child argues with a parent over
bedtime *at* bedtime. If the parent argues, the child "wins" because
bedtime is, by definition, being extended by the time spent arguing.
And the child will do more of the same, because it "works".

Replying to Len in kind teaches him that his methods "work". Indeed,
replying to him at all teaches him that.

The solution is obvious.

PLONK

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old April 6th 04, 07:44 PM
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In article .net, "KØHB"
writes:

"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote

| I will simply start to "kill-file" the
| offending parties' posts.
|
| 73,
| Carl - wk3c

It works wonders, Carl. Since implementing a disciplined screening
protocol the noise level has dropped about 30dB here. Most of the
messages I see actually pertain to amateur radio policy.


Question of the Day, oh noble sage of the brush: If "disciplined
screening protocol" has been implemented, how do you know
what is "noise" and what is not?

Are you reading by means of morse code?

Ahhhh, the world awaits enlightenment from your words...!

Oink.

LHA / WMD
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