In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

y'aint talking about Lennie, are you?

Just last week he adamantly stated he had NO interest in Amateur
Radio beyond antagonizing this NG over the Code issue, which he
himself can't seem to stay focused on...

Steve,

Since Mr. Anderson has made his purpose here quite clear, why do
you continue to bother with him? All that does is reinforce his behavior.
You've raised kids - you obviously know that rewarding behavior is
a good way to get more of it. And often the "reward" is simply giving
your attention.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Alun wrote in message . ..
Leo wrote in
news
On 8 Feb 2004 18:21:54 GMT, Alun wrote:

snip

Have the Canadian rules changed? The last time I read it you had to be
both a US citizen and a US resident to qualify. I'm not an American (or
a Canadian either) so I couldn't operate in Canada using my US call.

The rules I read were certainly not reciprocal, though. An American
with a US call and residing in the US could operate in Canada for only
2 months within the terms of the nearest Canadian licence (No WARC
bands or 40m for Generals!), whereas a Canadian with a Canadian call
could operate indefinitely in the US, even living here permanently,
under the terms of their Canadian licence (not to exceed Extra).

Not sure if they have changed, Alun - just discovered them when I
bacame a ham a couple of years ago! The link to the RAC page with
info on the current reciprocal agreement is:

http://www.rac.ca/regulatory/rcip.htm

and IC RIC-3, which contains the details on the various agreements, US
and other, is at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/vwapj/ric3.pdf/$FI
LE/ric3.pdf

From what I read in these documents, one need only possess a US
licence to gain full Canadian privileges appropriate to the licence
class. For countries other than the US, CEPT and IARP permits are
acceptable.

Hope that helps!

73, Leo

The first page talks about 'Americans operating in Canada', but I am not an
American, just someone with a US licence! That is the problem.

Reading further, RIC-2 limits operation under the bilateral agreement to US
citizens who are US residents, just as the previous rules did.

However, in RIC-3 it says that operating in Canada is possible under CEPT.

I cannot use my US licence under CEPT, as the CEPT letter that the FCC
publish says that it is only valid for US citizens (I've no idea why, as
the CEPT treaty does not mention citizenship anywhere).

However, if I got my UK licence re-activated it would automatically be
valid in Canada under CEPT. Someone who wasn't British would still be able
to do that, although I am actually a British citizen. I often go across the
border to Windsor when I visit Detroit, but I have never operated on the
Canadian side. It seems if I did so it would have to be as VE3/G8VUK, after
first getting my UK licence back.

AND you'd be able to run ssb below 7.100. Fancy that. Huge burden relieved. Move.

73 de Alun, N3KIP

w3rv

(Brian Kelly) wrote in
om:

Alun wrote in message
. ..
Leo wrote in
news
On 8 Feb 2004 18:21:54 GMT, Alun wrote:

snip

Have the Canadian rules changed? The last time I read it you had to
be both a US citizen and a US resident to qualify. I'm not an
American (or a Canadian either) so I couldn't operate in Canada
using my US call.

The rules I read were certainly not reciprocal, though. An American
with a US call and residing in the US could operate in Canada for
only 2 months within the terms of the nearest Canadian licence (No
WARC bands or 40m for Generals!), whereas a Canadian with a Canadian
call could operate indefinitely in the US, even living here
permanently, under the terms of their Canadian licence (not to
exceed Extra).

Not sure if they have changed, Alun - just discovered them when I
bacame a ham a couple of years ago! The link to the RAC page with
info on the current reciprocal agreement is:

http://www.rac.ca/regulatory/rcip.htm

and IC RIC-3, which contains the details on the various agreements,
US and other, is at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter...wapj/ric3.pdf/
$FI LE/ric3.pdf

From what I read in these documents, one need only possess a US
licence to gain full Canadian privileges appropriate to the licence
class. For countries other than the US, CEPT and IARP permits are
acceptable.

Hope that helps!

73, Leo

The first page talks about 'Americans operating in Canada', but I am
not an American, just someone with a US licence! That is the problem.

Reading further, RIC-2 limits operation under the bilateral agreement
to US citizens who are US residents, just as the previous rules did.

However, in RIC-3 it says that operating in Canada is possible under
CEPT.

I cannot use my US licence under CEPT, as the CEPT letter that the FCC
publish says that it is only valid for US citizens (I've no idea why,
as the CEPT treaty does not mention citizenship anywhere).

However, if I got my UK licence re-activated it would automatically be
valid in Canada under CEPT. Someone who wasn't British would still be
able to do that, although I am actually a British citizen. I often go
across the border to Windsor when I visit Detroit, but I have never
operated on the Canadian side. It seems if I did so it would have to
be as VE3/G8VUK, after first getting my UK licence back.

AND you'd be able to run ssb below 7.100. Fancy that. Huge burden
relieved. Move.

73 de Alun, N3KIP

w3rv


Anyone would try to think you were trying to get rid of me, LOL!

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian Kelly wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian Kelly wrote:

Young Don Newell was the crucifer one Sunday at St. Andrew's Episcopal
Church in Oak Hill. After the processional and after my father had
begun the service, Don fished a tiny crystal radio from his cassock,
stuffed the earphone into his ear and attached a wire with an alligator
clip to the cross. As the service ended, my dad whispered to him, "I'd
like a word after church".

Yeah, I'll bet there was a "word or two"!

You brought back a lot of hilarious memories of "electronerd
educations" gone awry David. Gawd we had fun . . !

The best I've ever heard was deliverd at the Dayton banquet one year by
Jean Shepherd.

I'd love to read it if his talk has been archived somewhere. I'll bet
that if some Shepherd-type individual went out and compiled tales
about all the goofy stunts and missteps kid hams got into back when in
a book it would sell.

Well, in my case it was a one-time Christmas deal--the one BIG present
and that was second-hand from Allied's big, used equipment list. The
receiver I saved for was also from the same list.

I wonder if there are any Allied employees left from the days when
they were in the ham biz.

More newspaper
deliveries, an after-school job at the local hobby shop several days
each week and the writing of a sports column for the local newspaper
provided coaxial cable and connectors, a key, antenna wire and the
like.

My first store-bought rcvr was a new Hallicrafters S-40B. Which I
bought from Sears & Roebuck believe it or not. At the time Sears sold
the S-38, the S-40, and a couple higher-end Hallicrafters rcvrs. I
think one of 'em was the SX-71. The S-40 catalog price was $119.95.
But I had an aunt who lived in Chicago and worked for Sears so I was
able to get her employee's 10% discount. A whole twelve bucks. I was
as interested in SWLing as much as I was into becoming a Novice so I
spent more time chasing SW BC "rare ones" than I did tuning the W1AW
code practice sessions. Eventually though, maybe a year after I got
the rcvr I had 7.5 wpm down cold and was close to 10 wpm so I trundled
off downtown, took the test and put the S-40 to the real task.

Some of that money was also spent on a big U.S. call area map and
some (sorry, no choice of color) QSL cards from WRL.

Now yer really rubbing it in . . . The Globe King, the King of the
Hill . . ! I understand that Leo is now 93 and is still at it at.

...and ran the W3KT outgoing QSL forwarding service for a number of
years.

I forgot all about that, tnx.

I used Jesse's outgoing card forwarding service in the days preceeding
the ARRL's outgoing bureau.

I knew it existed but I wasn't active in that timeframe.

Speaking of QSL card handling Joe Arcure W3HNK is in this
neighborhood, I gotta look him up.

Joe used to be a regular at the DX hospitality suites at Dayton. I
haven't seen him in a number of years.

He recently retired from Sun Oil and has tapered back from his former
volume of QSL work. I haven't done an eyball with him for probably 40
years. It's time to dig him up for a lunch.

All of this nostalgia has me fired up to grab my collection of the West
Coast DX Bulletin to re-read some of Cass's gems.

I subscribed to one or another of the dx bulletins but I forget which
one it was. I don't remember a "Cass". I had a big asset in the dx
spots game, I was geographically right in the middle of the FRC 2m
"spots network". I left the rcvr on 24/7, when I heard it light up I
knew there was a goodie lurking somewhere, got into the shack pronto,
fired up and joined the throng on the freq. Some of the poor dx
stations we jumped all over probably wondered what hit 'em.

Then there was the Ham Trader yellow sheets . . I moved a *lotta* gear
in and out with those.


Dave K8MN

w3rv

In article , Alun
writes:

73 de Alun, N3KIP

w3rv

Anyone would try to think you were trying to get rid of me, LOL!

Independent thought must be abolished from this group.

It makes the regular natives restless and they might take up
their spears and fight against Abrams tanks...

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

I wonder if there are any Allied employees left from the days when
they were in the ham biz.

Allied Radio is still an electronics parts distributor, was never solely
in the "ham biz." Allied is now a division of Hamilton-Avnet and
MUCH bigger than it was when they had a single building in Chicago.
I'd been there...impressive showroom to a 15 year old, but not that
great in 1956 when I was 23.

Newark Electronics is still in the electronics parts distributor biz,
also bigger than it was in the 1950s.

There's lots more places to get parts for hum radios now, but the
old-style parts of a half century are very, very scarce. :-)

You really ought to get out more...

LHA / WMD

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...

No, we're all hams. Save for one who has an interest in ham radio.

Hey Brain...y'aint talking about Lennie, are you?

Just last week he adamantly stated he had NO interest in Amateur
Radio beyond antagonizing this NG over the Code issue, which he
himself can't seem to stay focused on...

Steve, K4YZ

That is an interest.

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

y'aint talking about Lennie, are you?

Just last week he adamantly stated he had NO interest in Amateur
Radio beyond antagonizing this NG over the Code issue, which he
himself can't seem to stay focused on...

Steve,

Since Mr. Anderson has made his purpose here quite clear, why do
you continue to bother with him? All that does is reinforce his behavior.
You've raised kids - you obviously know that rewarding behavior is
a good way to get more of it. And often the "reward" is simply giving
your attention.

73 de Jim, N2EY

TAFKA Rev. Jim, Steve has an obsession. It is not rational.
Compelling, rational arguments will not deter him.

"William" wrote in message
om...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
. com...
(William) wrote in message
. com...

No, we're all hams. Save for one who has an interest in ham radio.

Hey Brain...y'aint talking about Lennie, are you?

Just last week he adamantly stated he had NO interest in Amateur
Radio beyond antagonizing this NG over the Code issue, which he
himself can't seem to stay focused on...

Steve, K4YZ

That is an interest.

Actually he likes to antagonize over anything he can manage to twist into an
argument.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

That is an interest.

Actually he likes to antagonize over anything he can manage to twist into an
argument.

Only to counter the revisionist history of radio as presented by the
ARRL. :-)

Please, continue to hide head in the sand and let the league be your
Big Brother. They know what is best for ham radio because they say
they do.

Hmmm...we are 20 years past "1984." :-)

LHA / WMD