This one is as bad a Bonnie's abomination. Maybe worse.

http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports...f-digital.html

w3rv

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

This one is as bad a Bonnie's abomination. Maybe worse.

http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports...f-digital.html

How is it as bad or worse? I think it's much better!

First off, it does not widen the 'phone bands anywhere near as much as the
KQ6XA plan. Nor does it decrease the Extra segments.

Second, the 200/500/2700 Hz rules are for a *voluntary bandplan*, not FCC regs.

Third, it actually acknowledges that hams use modes like CW and Baudot RTTY.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

This one is as bad a Bonnie's abomination. Maybe worse.

http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports...f-digital.html

How is it as bad or worse? I think it's much better!

It's worse because Bonnie is a no-counter, the guys who wrote the ARRL
version should have known better. I looked all of 'em up to find out
where they come from. One is a VHFer, two or three others are big into
HF APRS and HF Echolink sorts of interests. Lotta TAPR connections.
Only one, maybe two of 'em do much with conventional HF modes. The
real kicker is that the two really heavy hitters on the committee
bailed away from it. We all know who G3PLX is and what he's done but
his reason for resigning from the committeee is publicly unkown. The
other is KH6TY who invented DigiPan PSK31 and PSK 63 and is the
recipient of the 2000 ARRL Technical Excellence Award. He disagrees
with the final output and supposedly will craft his own version of the
report.

First off, it does not widen the 'phone bands anywhere near as much as the
KQ6XA plan.

The phone bands *will* get widened and this report won't have anything
to do with it.

Nor does it decrease the Extra segments.

Minor point overall but at least they had enough sense not to mess
with that bag of worms.

Second, the 200/500/2700 Hz rules

So where's the 10/8Khz wide digital stuff gonna run? DRM will be
excluded?

are for a *voluntary bandplan*, not FCC regs.

Bandplans work on bands 30 Mhz because Riley can enforce 'em when and
where they actually matter. Voluntary bandplans for MF/HF have been
out there for eons and they *don't* work. All adopting this proposal
would do is generate more opportunities to bust bandplans.

Third, it actually acknowledges that hams use modes like CW and Baudot RTTY.

Wunnerful. Hang dividing lines somwhere around the bottom edges of
what are now the lower limits of the phone bands. All modes above
those limits gotta be 8-10 Khz wide max, everything below can't exceed
1 Khz wide and let the market sort 'em out.

None of it matters anyway, we're both blowing hot air. This report was
submitted almost two years ago and has gone nowhere. I'm not holding
my breath waiting for the BoD to even address it let alone adopt it
then dump anything even close to it on the FCC.


73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

This one is as bad a Bonnie's abomination. Maybe worse.

http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports...f-digital.html

How is it as bad or worse? I think it's much better!

It's worse because Bonnie is a no-counter, the guys who wrote the ARRL
version should have known better. I looked all of 'em up to find out
where they come from. One is a VHFer, two or three others are big into
HF APRS and HF Echolink sorts of interests. Lotta TAPR connections.
Only one, maybe two of 'em do much with conventional HF modes. The
real kicker is that the two really heavy hitters on the committee
bailed away from it. We all know who G3PLX is and what he's done but
his reason for resigning from the committeee is publicly unkown. The
other is KH6TY who invented DigiPan PSK31 and PSK 63 and is the
recipient of the 2000 ARRL Technical Excellence Award. He disagrees
with the final output and supposedly will craft his own version of the
report.

And KQ6XA'z is worse.

First off, it does not widen the 'phone bands anywhere near as much as the
KQ6XA plan.

The phone bands *will* get widened and this report won't have anything
to do with it.

True, and that's a good point.

Nor does it decrease the Extra segments.

Minor point overall but at least they had enough sense not to mess
with that bag of worms.

Second, the 200/500/2700 Hz rules

So where's the 10/8Khz wide digital stuff gonna run? DRM will be
excluded?

are for a *voluntary bandplan*, not FCC regs.

Bandplans work on bands 30 Mhz because Riley can enforce 'em when and
where they actually matter. Voluntary bandplans for MF/HF have been
out there for eons and they *don't* work. All adopting this proposal
would do is generate more opportunities to bust bandplans.

Agreed!

Third, it actually acknowledges that hams use modes like CW and Baudot
RTTY.

Wunnerful. Hang dividing lines somwhere around the bottom edges of
what are now the lower limits of the phone bands. All modes above
those limits gotta be 8-10 Khz wide max, everything below can't exceed
1 Khz wide and let the market sort 'em out.

Bingo.

This report was submitted almost two years ago and has gone nowhere.

That says it all. It's a nocounter going nowhere.

End of story..

73 de Jim, N2EY