Well I read on qrz and eham where another petition has been submitted. If
people want to delay whatever ruling the FCC finally issues that's probably
the most effective way to do it. If I haven't lost count, that's 16
petitions.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

Well I read on qrz and eham where another petition has been submitted.

Me too, some outfit called the Foundation for Amateur Radio or some such. Six
members. I wrote a comparison of their proposal and the ARRL one......

If
people want to delay whatever ruling the FCC finally issues that's probably
the most effective way to do it.

bwaahaahaa

If I haven't lost count, that's 16 petitions.

That agrees with my count.

Neither the ARRL nor the FAR petition has an RM number yet. And K0HB hasn't
even submitted his proposal. So we're not even close to an NPRM yet...

Just like the '60s all over again. A pile of proposals - watch FCC pick a bit
of this and a bit of that and make nobody happy.

Maybe I should do a proposal....

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote in
:

In article , "Dee D.
Flint" writes:

Well I read on qrz and eham where another petition has been submitted.

Me too, some outfit called the Foundation for Amateur Radio or some
such. Six members. I wrote a comparison of their proposal and the ARRL
one......

If
people want to delay whatever ruling the FCC finally issues that's
probably the most effective way to do it.

bwaahaahaa

If I haven't lost count, that's 16 petitions.

That agrees with my count.

Neither the ARRL nor the FAR petition has an RM number yet. And K0HB
hasn't even submitted his proposal. So we're not even close to an NPRM
yet...

Just like the '60s all over again. A pile of proposals - watch FCC pick
a bit of this and a bit of that and make nobody happy.

Maybe I should do a proposal....

73 de Jim, N2EY


The FAR is an organisation that raises money for college scholarships to be
paid to licenced hams. Their major annual fundraiser is a very large
hamfest. Not on the scale of, say, Dayton, but pretty big. I used to go to
it, but they moved the location further away. I used to be a member and get
their newsletter, which is another way they raise money, and quite a few
ham clubs are affiliated to them also.

That said, do you know what's in their petition. I am curious.

On 21 Feb 2004 03:17:03 GMT, N2EY wrote:

Just like the '60s all over again. A pile of proposals - watch FCC
pick a bit of this and a bit of that and make nobody happy.

Isn't that what a regulatory agency 'sposed to do? ggg

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

In article , "Phil Kane"
writes:

On 21 Feb 2004 03:17:03 GMT, N2EY wrote:

Just like the '60s all over again. A pile of proposals - watch FCC
pick a bit of this and a bit of that and make nobody happy.

Isn't that what a regulatory agency 'sposed to do? ggg

I dunno, but it's what a lot of them do do.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , Alun
writes:

The FAR is an organisation that raises money for college scholarships to be
paid to licenced hams.

This isn't them. It has six members. Look on eham.net under the discussion
about the ARRL being representative.

That said, do you know what's in their petition. I am curious.

It's 59 pages but it boils down to this, in no particular order:

- Three license classes: Tech, General, Extra. Basically the same test
requirements as today (including 5 wpm code for General and Extra)

- No change to General or Extra privs

- Novices get upgraded to Tech, Advanceds get upgraded to Extra, both for free
(no test).

- Techs and Tech Pluses merge, get all same privileges as listed below

- Techs retain all VHF/UHF

- Techs get 100W PEP on HF on parts of 160, 80, 40, 15 and 10. CW/data on all
those bands, 'phone on 160, 10 and 15.

Basically, they dropped the code test for Tech Plus privileges, added data on
the CW parts, and added a bit of 160 and 15 meter 'phone. Much less HF than the
ARRL proposal, and you need a Tech to get it.

I think the proposal is on AG4RQ's website.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , "Phil Kane"
writes:

On 21 Feb 2004 03:17:03 GMT, N2EY wrote:

Just like the '60s all over again. A pile of proposals - watch FCC
pick a bit of this and a bit of that and make nobody happy.

Isn't that what a regulatory agency 'sposed to do? ggg

I dunno, but it's what a lot of them do do.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , Alun
writes:

The FAR is an organisation that raises money for college scholarships to be
paid to licenced hams.

This isn't them. It has six members. Look on eham.net under the discussion
about the ARRL being representative.

That said, do you know what's in their petition. I am curious.

It's 59 pages but it boils down to this, in no particular order:

- Three license classes: Tech, General, Extra. Basically the same test
requirements as today (including 5 wpm code for General and Extra)

- No change to General or Extra privs

- Novices get upgraded to Tech, Advanceds get upgraded to Extra, both for free
(no test).

- Techs and Tech Pluses merge, get all same privileges as listed below

- Techs retain all VHF/UHF

- Techs get 100W PEP on HF on parts of 160, 80, 40, 15 and 10. CW/data on all
those bands, 'phone on 160, 10 and 15.

Basically, they dropped the code test for Tech Plus privileges, added data on
the CW parts, and added a bit of 160 and 15 meter 'phone. Much less HF than the
ARRL proposal, and you need a Tech to get it.

I think the proposal is on AG4RQ's website.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(N2EY) wrote


And K0HB hasn't even submitted his proposal.

Yes he has.

So we're not even close to an NPRM yet...

How did you reach that conclusion, oh great Imperial Pontificator?
FCC can issue an NPRM without considering input from ARRL, K0HB, or
Donald Duck.

73, de Hans, K0HB
Grand Exhalted Liberator of the Electric Smoke

"Hans K0HB" wrote in message
m...
(N2EY) wrote


And K0HB hasn't even submitted his proposal.

Yes he has.


So is it up to 17 petitions?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE