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March 29th 04, 09:26 AM

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 3/28/2004 10:23 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Our repeater has better coverage than cell phones in the area and
covers much area that doesn't have cell phone coverage *at all*. It's a
very advanced system, with several sites that poll each other for the
best signal from you, and send the strongest to the main repeater site.
So if you want to be prepared to call 911 from a wireless system in our
area, you are much better off to use our repeater system.

The only disadvantage is that the phone identifies itself to the
operator as being at the location of the repeater, so you have to
identify your position.

I agree.

Our local ARES and Amateur clubs have a great raport with local 9-1-1
services and are regulars at their in-services to discuss what we can/cannot
do, etc. All of the local 9-1-1 operators know that if the caller ID's as "via
Ham Radio" that the call is from a remote location other than the number
calling.

That's a part of that "training" thing some posters here say doesn't
happen.

73

Steve, K4YZ

March 29th 04, 02:44 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...

Regardless...Your puppetboy exposed himself and left parts out to be
stepped on that should have never seen the light of day.

Darn! I didn't realize that I had exposed myself.

I apologize. No offense meant (dear God, hope it didn't turn him on).

But I did punch in 911 on my radio and nothing happened.

YOU exacerbated the silliness by spouting off on a topic that you were,
AGAIN, ill-prepared to address. Regardless of what's "voluntary" or "not
universal", direct 9-1-1 access on Amateur repeaters IS commonplace.

But isn't what you are talking about tied to wires?

So again, how does the 911 operator with the radio talk to me?

March 29th 04, 02:48 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:52 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

And WHY does it take 911 operators to handle "every" call, Brain?

I might have been wrong. Perhaps answering 90% of 911 calls is
acceptable practice in some localities. "Good enuf 4 Gubmn't Work."
Like the 911 operator that kept hanging up on "sniper" Lee Malvo.

What "90%" Brain?

Now dammit, Steve, you're the one who wanted to know why it takes a
911 operator to handle every 911 call.

That's not what you wrote, Brain.

Correct. It's what you wrote.

Shall I back up a couple posts, RE-POST what was written, and ONCE AGAIN
have two-weeks worth of your newsgroup excrement in which to rub YOUR
nose...?!?!

Yup.

See above. Retract your idiotic comment or forever be known as a
liar.

Best back up, PuppetBoy. If I re-post the complete, IN-CONTEXT post,
you're gonna look stupid...AGAIN...

ALL of the 9-1-1 calls get answered where I live.

Whoa! Here too.

Glad to hear it. Ohio always has had a great emergency response
reputation, even before 9-1-1 was implemented.

Thank you.

NOT all of the calls warrant a Code 3 response.

Do all calls warrant being answered?

Did I say otherwise...?!?! If so, please cite the post wherein I did say
otherwise.

You can capture it again when you back up. But don't go changing anything.

We only
need one, maybe two on any call, if you allow for one being on the phone
and
one on the radio...

How does a citizen call a 911 operator on a radio?

Hmmmmm...there are several ways.

First of all is to use the autopatch if a licensed Amateur.

Second is to be an authorized user of the county dispatch network
(which I
am)

Third is to...never mind...I could be at this all day...

I'll bet you could. Nuts.

Yes, you are.

And you're digging yourself in deeper with every post every day.

I'd have thought you'd have learned by now.

Does your WIFE read your antics? Does she know how thoroughly you
humiliate your family name?

First you want to pick on my kids, now you want to pick on my wife.

No wonder you said you've been divorced so many times.

March 29th 04, 02:52 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/28/2004 3:32 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

If a ham punches in 911 on his or her HT on our local repeater system,
the call will indeed be patched into the local 911 center.

That's an excellent thing for your local repeater. It isn't a national
standard among U.S. amateur radio repeaters, de facto or de jure.

"De facto" or "de jure" noitwithstanding, it IS a technical possibility,
and for some of us, reality.

Sorry it punctured yet another "I Don't Have Any Practical Experience In
Amateur Radio Upon Which To Base This But I'll Take A Shot And Hope I Get Away
With It" rant, Lennie

The 911 combination IS a national standard for all telephone ESSs
in the United States and is accounted for in all number
combinations used in signalling and dialing in the telephone
infrastructure.

"911" is not.

"9-1-1" is. Please refer to the logo on any emergency vehicle that
promotes the number. This was done for a reason.

Please refer to any telephone key pad. There are no dashes on them.

March 29th 04, 08:34 PM

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 3/28/2004 8:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

William wrote:

Stern has been hard pressed to come up with something funny since he
can't talk about F anymore.

Which exposes that he wasn't particularly funny in the first

BAM! Hammer on head.

If you get rid of the "f" word and any ribald reference to the female
form, and Howard Stern is just another baritone late night oldies DJ.

Funny, though, that most of the people who are NOW dropping the hammer on
him are the SAME people who laughed at him a 10-15 years ago,

Yup...

but NOW have
children of thier own and don't want THEM exposed to that kind of filth ! ! ! !

And they will fail to protect *their* children just as their parents
did! 8^)

Oh well, I have mixed thoughts on the "new censorship " going on. I
prefer the airways cleaned up, but I would just as soon have Howard
removed from them because he stinks than for his profanity.

- Mike KB3EIA -

March 29th 04, 09:46 PM

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/29/2004 7:44 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

So again, how does the 911 operator with the radio talk to me?

I am sure it's something like "goo goo gaaa gaaa". They are pretty good at
talking to a person on thier level without talking down to them.

Steve, K4YZ

March 29th 04, 09:51 PM

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/29/2004 7:48 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/27/2004 8:52 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

And WHY does it take 911 operators to handle "every" call,
Brain?

I might have been wrong. Perhaps answering 90% of 911 calls is
acceptable practice in some localities. "Good enuf 4 Gubmn't Work."
Like the 911 operator that kept hanging up on "sniper" Lee Malvo.

What "90%" Brain?

Now dammit, Steve, you're the one who wanted to know why it takes a
911 operator to handle every 911 call.

That's not what you wrote, Brain.

Correct. It's what you wrote.

You've already been asked once to cite the post wherein you claim I said
that.

You haven't doen THAT yet either.

Glad to hear it. Ohio always has had a great emergency response
reputation, even before 9-1-1 was implemented.

Thank you.

Are YOU taking credit for this system, Brain?

Does your WIFE read your antics? Does she know how thoroughly you
humiliate your family name?

First you want to pick on my kids, now you want to pick on my wife.

No wonder you said you've been divorced so many times.

I'm not "picking" on your wife, Blockhead.

I ASKED if she "...read your antics?" and further asked if she was aware
how you "thoroughly humiliate your family name?"

Since YOU already quoted it in this same post, I need not go back for that
one.

Thanks. (...you really do make this a lot easier than you realize!)

Steve, K4YZ

March 29th 04, 09:55 PM

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/29/2004 7:52 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/28/2004 3:32 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

The 911 combination IS a national standard for all telephone ESSs
in the United States and is accounted for in all number
combinations used in signalling and dialing in the telephone
infrastructure.

"911" is not.

"9-1-1" is. Please refer to the logo on any emergency vehicle that
promotes the number. This was done for a reason.

Please refer to any telephone key pad. There are no dashes on them.

No, there's not.

Neither is "911"

Acting on recommendations from APCO (Lennie can tell you who THEY are...)
it was encouraged that the national emergency number be depicted as three
discreet numbers, ie: 9-1-1. Please refer to the logo on almost any emergency
vehicle in the United States.

If it would be any easier for you, I can use 9.1.1., but there are no
periods on the phone either.

Steve, K4YZ

March 30th 04, 02:43 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/29/2004 7:52 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/28/2004 3:32 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

The 911 combination IS a national standard for all telephone ESSs
in the United States and is accounted for in all number
combinations used in signalling and dialing in the telephone
infrastructure.

"911" is not.

"9-1-1" is. Please refer to the logo on any emergency vehicle that
promotes the number. This was done for a reason.

Please refer to any telephone key pad. There are no dashes on them.

No, there's not.

Neither is "911"

Acting on recommendations from APCO (Lennie can tell you who THEY are...)
it was encouraged that the national emergency number be depicted as three
discreet numbers, ie: 9-1-1. Please refer to the logo on almost any emergency
vehicle in the United States.

If it would be any easier for you, I can use 9.1.1., but there are no
periods on the phone either.

Steve, K4YZ

Why do you insist on inserting superfluous characters in the string?

Probably the same reason why you insisted the FCC keep superfluous
requirements in amateur radio testing.

Do you enjoy being wrong so often?

Has this become a part-time job for you?

Doesn't pay much, does it?

March 30th 04, 02:45 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/29/2004 7:44 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

So again, how does the 911 operator with the radio talk to me?

I am sure it's something like "goo goo gaaa gaaa". They are pretty good at
talking to a person on thier level without talking down to them.

Steve, K4YZ

Typical response of someone who got his tie stuck in his zipper.

How does the 911 operator with the radio talk to me?

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