N2EY wrote:
In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...

Most hospitals have to carry malpractice liability of a half-million
dollars for most of it's licensed staff (Nurses, techs, therapists and EMS
personnel) and sometimes as much as 20 times that for physicians.


Is that per staff member?


Yes.


I think it's implied in the way you phrase it but
it's not really clear.


Ask any licensed, currently practicing health care professional. Many carry
more, and some specialties (like obstetrics) carry a lot more. Such coverage is
not inexpensive, and in some areas medical care providers are simply closing
down or moving because of the high cost of malpractice insurance. It is one of
the reasons (not the only one) for the high cost of medical care in the USA.


Or a person making decisions for a youth sports organization. when I
was the president of the local hockey club, I was insured for multiple
millions of dollars. When you have to deal with two or more sets of
rabid parents, each threatening to sue if the decision you make is not
in their favor, you get to appreciate the insurance.

When Mr and Mrs Smith are absolutely certain that little Johnny isn't
going to go to the NHL because your coach isn't playing them every other
shift and not putting him on the first line, and Mr and Mrs Johnson are
certain of the same thing, which of course interferes with the Smith's
up and coming Hockey star's High school hockey career, you get a bit jaded.

- mike KB3EIA -

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...

Most hospitals have to carry malpractice liability of a half-million
dollars for most of it's licensed staff (Nurses, techs, therapists and EMS
personnel) and sometimes as much as 20 times that for physicians.


Is that per staff member?

Yes.

I think it's implied in the way you phrase it but
it's not really clear.

Ask any licensed, currently practicing health care professional. Many carry
more, and some specialties (like obstetrics) carry a lot more. Such coverage
is
not inexpensive, and in some areas medical care providers are simply closing
down or moving because of the high cost of malpractice insurance. It is one
of
the reasons (not the only one) for the high cost of medical care in the USA.

Dr. Jimmy, did you learn that in the ARRL Study Guide?
Bash book?

What does MALPRACTICE really mean?

Does it have "Farnsworth spacing?"

My diagnosis is that this topic doesn't belong in this newsgroup.
Sue my insurance carrier if you don't like that opinion... :-)

My prognosis is a lot of Chat Room nattering by the regulars.

LHA / WMD

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...

Most hospitals have to carry malpractice liability of a half-million
dollars for most of it's licensed staff (Nurses, techs, therapists and EMS
personnel) and sometimes as much as 20 times that for physicians.

Is that per staff member? I think it's implied in the way you phrase it but
it's not really clear.

His "seven hostile actions" encountered during military service
has muddied his thinking...and ability to cohere....here.

LHA / WMD

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/31/2004 4:08 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/31/2004 7:47 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I still think that cellular telephones is a lot better than nothing,
and their widespread use had made huge inroads in providing emergency
communications for the average citizen.

In as much as you are obviously narrowing your scope to "the average
citizen"

Deal with it.

There's nothing to "deal with, Brain.

"We" were discussing Amateur Radio's role in emeergency communications.\

For what ever reason, you were trying to trivialize that role by
representing "cellphones" and "unlicensed servcies" as playing a "major role"
in "emergency comms", but only within the scope of "Joe Average" calling for
help on his cellphone under what one can call "routine" circumstances.

No problem. You were trying to make the circumstances fit your rant. It
didn't work and you got your nose tweaked in the process.

That was the context in which I made my statement, Steve.

After a weeks worth of trying to wriggle out from under the stone YOU had
crawled under, Brain.

making what would be considered a "routine" 9-1-1 call under "normal"
circumstances you'd be correct.

Steve, what 911 calls are made under normal, routine circumstances?

I've never made 911 calls in a day.

I've made calls to the 9-1-1 center though, and to "me", a person who
WORKS in the 9-1-1 enviroment, car accidents, lost persons, shots fired, etc
are "routine" calls.

Loss of communicaitons due to wild fire, flood, tornadoes, etc, are not.
I've tried to differentiate the difference to you, but you keeep wanting to
ONLY define your scope of discussion to that which supports your ranting and
which would, on the face of it, trivialize Amateur Radio's role.

It didn't work.

In the scope of "emergency communications" as it pertains to the
Amateur
Radio Service and within the scope of discussion OF "emergency
communications,
you ae still trying to compare apples and oranges.

Nope. Amateur radio emergency communications are not limited to
Continuity of Government operations only.

Your bad. Try again.

You're bass ackwards. Again.

Hardly.

I am discussing TRUE "major role" emergency communications. YOU are
talking about Joe Average neding a cop for an accident or reporting a dumpster
fire.

As usual, you're out-of-step with current events.

Try again, PuppetBoy.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 4/1/2004 12:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Sounds like you're going down on JJ's boat.

At least we can throw him a life preserver.

You, on the otherhand, are going down on Lennie.

That we can't help you with.

Enjoy.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (William)
Date: 3/31/2004 4:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...

Of course the cellphone is a good thing for reporting emergencies. And
if I have one, I'll use it if I'm out of my repeater area. The nearly
universal use of the things almost guarantees *someone* will pass by
that can call emergency services.

Thank you for noticing that. It has been missed by Robo-nurse and the
unlicensed JJ.

No I've not.

YOU have been trying to limit the scope of "emergency comms" to that of
Joe Average reporting an accident or calling the FD for a dumpster fire.

In the context of "emergency comms" wherein Amateur Radio plays a role is
a far greater scoe of impact on the community involved.

You just needed to make the circumstances fir the rant, Brain.

It didn't work.

But unlicensed JJ and Steve are so certain that everyone else is
stupid.

Not "everyone else", Brain.

Just you. You have, afterall, provided so much evidence in support of my
allegations.

Thanks.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 3/31/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...

Most hospitals have to carry malpractice liability of a half-million
dollars for most of it's licensed staff (Nurses, techs, therapists and EMS
personnel) and sometimes as much as 20 times that for physicians.


Is that per staff member? I think it's implied in the way you phrase it but
it's not really clear.

Yep...that's about right.

Remember, there can be multiple suits involving different complaintants.

OB-GYN docs especially are dropping like flies due to the insurance. It's
tragic.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Ham-radio is a hobby not a service
From: (Bert Craig)
Date: 4/1/2004 5:39 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Many could not understand what "such
well paid" folks could possibly protest over and were visibly put off
on TV news interviews. Sometimes the overhead is simply overlooked.

While in SoCal, one of thje ER docs I worked with showed us his dilemma...

Before taxes (1988) he was making almost $2M between his practice, his ER
coverage and his investments.

Malpractice ALONE (and this was an MD NEVER sued before) was over $70,000.

That sucks.

Steve, K4YZ

William wrote:
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message ...

"William" wrote in message
.com...

I still think that cellular telephones is a lot better than nothing,
and their widespread use had made huge inroads in providing emergency
communications for the average citizen.

Everyone has indicated that it's great for the individualized emergency
instances like a car accident, etc.


No, they haven't. Please refer to any and all JJ posts.



He has an axe to grind, and he'll go down with his boat on this one.

But it has no place in widespread

Please site a post where I stated cell phone were not good for the
individualized emergency.

emergencies like hurricanes, earthquakes and so on as it simply can't be
counted on under that type of condition.


No place at all?

Sounds like you're going down on JJ's boat.

He knows which boat is going to stay afloat.

JJ wrote:
He knows which boat is going to stay afloat.

rec.radio.cb in your case, jj no call. (junior jackass?)