Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

(Michael Black) wrote in message ...
Dave Heil ) writes:
William wrote:

The fact remains that many emergency calls were placed and got through
using cellular telephones.

Does that upset you or do you find it some sort of validation for your
latest peculiar theory?

Heaven forbid an emergency happens during a contest weekend!

How does a cellphone contest work?

Dave K8MN

This was discussed in CQ in the mid-sixties. The phone company wanted
to set up an alternative to amateur radio, including sending equipment
to rare countries for DXpeditions. But it would be all done over phone
lines.

I can't remember which year, 1965 or 1968 somehow ring a bell, but I
can definitely tell you it was in the April issue.

Michael

Michael, thank you. Now David's curiousity has an answer.

If he were even slightly interested in amateur radio contests, he
could seek out the publication "CQ," not defunct.

You wrote nothing of amateur radio contests, Brian. I subscribe to CQ
though they are not the only sponsor of amateur radio contests. Do you
know something about amateur radio contesting? Is your contest
knowledge equal to your knowledge of DXing?

Dave K8MN

David, I know enough to not use a cellular telephone in an amateur
radio contest. Wherever did you get that idea?

I never had that idea, William/Brian. You wrote nothing about an
amateur radio contest.

Dave K8MN

You continue to be obtuse. Enjoi.

In article , Alun
writes:

Personally, I don't have a cell phone, so if I lost wired phone service I
would only have ham radio to fall back on. Oddly enough, cell phones have
not yet spread to every man, woman and child, but I don't know anyone who
doesn't have a phone number.

Alun, according to the Census Bureau's data as of 2003, there are
100 million cellular telephone subscriptions in the USA. That's about
one for every three citizens. Rather large "spread," I'd say. :-)

If every licensed amateur in the USA had one useable radio, then the
number of amateur radios would be one per about 430 citizens. Not
as big a "spread."

LHA / WMD

ospam (Larry Roll K3LT) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Lennie's insistance that Amateur Radio "always" saves the day is
his way of skewing the results in his favor.

Oh, contraire!

Larry Roll has set up many a scenario where not only is amateur radio
the ONLY means to save the day, but only ONE particular mode is
suitable to save the day.

He's done it again and again.

Are we Not to believe Roll?

Billy:

My "scenarios" are always built around a simple premise: That there is, in
fact,
a licensed (and CW-capable) radio amateur at the scene of my "scenario," that
he has functional radio equipment at his disposal, and prevailing operating
conditions preclude the use of voice modes such as FM or SSB. I don't recall
making any inference that CW is the "only" mode that can "save the day" ...just
that unless you know the code, you can't use it when you may need it!

73 de Larry, K3LT

"...operating conditions preclude the use of voice modes such as FM or SSB."

Every time.

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...

The post I responded to was from your douchebag friend.
Exact same is quoted verbatim above.

Stebe, I have no douche bag friends, unless you believe yourself to be
my friend.

Sure you do.

You have publically proclaimed your admiration for Lennie Anderson
on several occassions.

Lennie has been documented in countless lies and acts of
antagonism and misrepresentation.

That, in my book, makes Lennie a douchebag.

So, has Roll not claimed that Ham Radio always saves the day?

He has claimed it has "saved the day"...

I have never seen him say "always".

You or Sir Putzalot will have to provide me a cite of a post
wherein he did.

FACTS have proven that Amateur Radio HAS "saved the day" on
occassions too numerous to count.

What exactly am I to try again?

Acting like a man...It may be hard, but you'd not be the first
puppet to experience it...

Sgteve, K4YZ

(Len Over 21) wrote in
:

In article , Alun
writes:

Personally, I don't have a cell phone, so if I lost wired phone service
I would only have ham radio to fall back on. Oddly enough, cell phones
have not yet spread to every man, woman and child, but I don't know
anyone who doesn't have a phone number.

Alun, according to the Census Bureau's data as of 2003, there are
100 million cellular telephone subscriptions in the USA. That's
about one for every three citizens. Rather large "spread," I'd say.
:-)

If every licensed amateur in the USA had one useable radio, then the
number of amateur radios would be one per about 430 citizens. Not
as big a "spread."

LHA / WMD


And your point is...?

I'm not really sure what you're getting at, but my point was that it is
reasonable to assume that everyone has a TV and a phone, for example, but
we're not yet at that point with cellphones. Close, but not there yet. Of
course, I would say that, as I don't have one.

The level of use of ham radio is not particularly relevant to the
discussion, except in that there are clearly enough of us to help out in an
emergency.

Alun wrote in message . ..


And your point is...?

I'm not really sure what you're getting at, but my point was that it is
reasonable to assume that everyone has a TV and a phone, for example, but
we're not yet at that point with cellphones. Close, but not there yet. Of
course, I would say that, as I don't have one.

The level of use of ham radio is not particularly relevant to the
discussion, except in that there are clearly enough of us to help out in an
emergency.

OK, Alun, lets look at it another way.

We agree that cellular phones can be useful in an emergency.

We agree that not everyone has a cellular phone, maybe only 1/3 of the
US population.

We know that there are very, very, very few amateur radio operators
per capita in the US population.

We can conclude that most people have better access to cellular phones
in an emergency than they have access to amateur radio.

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...

The post I responded to was from your douchebag friend.
Exact same is quoted verbatim above.

Stebe, I have no douche bag friends, unless you believe yourself to be
my friend.

Sure you do.

You have publically proclaimed your admiration for Lennie Anderson
on several occassions.

I have admired Len's ability to get to the truth in spite of the
overwhelming personal attacks on his character.

Lennie has been documented in countless lies and acts of
antagonism and misrepresentation.

Now we have TAFKARJ editing posts. What's next?

That, in my book, makes Lennie a douchebag.

Hmmm. You must be the run-off.

So, has Roll not claimed that Ham Radio always saves the day?

He has claimed it has "saved the day"...

I have never seen him say "always".

He always sets up his scenario where only amateur radio can save the
day. That makes it "always."

You or Sir Putzalot will have to provide me a cite of a post
wherein he did.

Cite yourself.

FACTS have proven that Amateur Radio HAS "saved the day" on
occassions too numerous to count.

FACTS have proven that cellular telephones HAVE "saved the day" on
occassions too numerous to count.

What exactly am I to try again?

Acting like a man...It may be hard, but you'd not be the first
puppet to experience it...

Sgteve, K4YZ

Thanks Sgt. Steve. You are dismissed.

Alun wrote in message . ..
(Len Over 21) wrote in
:

In article , Alun
writes:

Personally, I don't have a cell phone, so if I lost wired phone service
I would only have ham radio to fall back on. Oddly enough, cell phones
have not yet spread to every man, woman and child, but I don't know
anyone who doesn't have a phone number.

Alun, according to the Census Bureau's data as of 2003, there are
100 million cellular telephone subscriptions in the USA. That's
about one for every three citizens. Rather large "spread," I'd say.
:-)

If every licensed amateur in the USA had one useable radio, then the
number of amateur radios would be one per about 430 citizens. Not
as big a "spread."

LHA / WMD


And your point is...?

Hey...! It's LENNIE, Alun! No point is necessary!

The level of use of ham radio is not particularly relevant to the
discussion, except in that there are clearly enough of us to help out in an
emergency.

And that they do, over and over and over, yet His Putziness still
insists that such is not the case, reams of evidence to the contrary.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

William (AKA Brain Burke, from what is surely but one of several screen names used in this forum) wrote:

You're still good for a
few laughs.

The laughs, as usual, appear to be on you. I'd love to hear more of
your amateur radio contesting exploits. I'd probably pick up a tip or
too.
Your insight into DXing was extremely valueable.

I am sure that he'd be the center of attention at a CB Jamboree,
"enlightening" those impressionable souls with his "wisdom" on such
antics...Until, of course, someone had the temerity to ask him to
provide some evidence of his exploits.

And of course he could throw in some well timed colloquialisms
like "flat side", "swing" and "dead key" and they'd be putty in his
(cold and clammy) hands.

Or maybe not...

73

Steve, K4YZ

(William) wrote in
om:

Alun wrote in message
. ..


And your point is...?

I'm not really sure what you're getting at, but my point was that it
is reasonable to assume that everyone has a TV and a phone, for
example, but we're not yet at that point with cellphones. Close, but
not there yet. Of course, I would say that, as I don't have one.

The level of use of ham radio is not particularly relevant to the
discussion, except in that there are clearly enough of us to help out
in an emergency.

OK, Alun, lets look at it another way.

We agree that cellular phones can be useful in an emergency.

We agree that not everyone has a cellular phone, maybe only 1/3 of the
US population.

We know that there are very, very, very few amateur radio operators
per capita in the US population.

We can conclude that most people have better access to cellular phones
in an emergency than they have access to amateur radio.


Possibly true, so long as the cell towers are still standing.