In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

I agree except for one point: The decision was made by different people
for a
number of factors, such as the *perceived* difficulty and the *perceived*
rewards.

Actually that was what I was trying to point out and you've clarified it
quite nicely.

Glad to help.

Having earned my initial license in 1992 (Tech with HF), I'm quite
familiar
with what was going on. The majority of people sitting for their first
license took the Tech no-code route to put off learning the code not
because
of its two meter and VHF access. Prior to on-air experience, they simply
were not personally familiar enough with various ham activities to select
their entry route on the basis of the desireability of having 2m access.

Here in EPA, after about 1980 the predominant entry license was the Tech.
This
was true even before it lost its code test. The reason was 2 meter/440
access,
which Novices didn't have. A prospective ham would see almost every ham
with a
2 meter HT or mobile, ask "what license do I need to talk to you guys" and
wind up with a Tech. Code or no code.

I can see where that could easily be a dominant factor if the prospective
ham had some exposure to that.

At least here in EPA/SNJ/DEL/MDC, a lot of new hams started out with scanners.
They were a natural adjunct to a cb set in the late '70s and early '80s. And of
course they'd come upon ham repeaters and mobiles - all running 2 meters or
440. Indeed, many clubs in this area were organized around their repeater.

73 de Jim, N2EY

On 06 Apr 2004 05:20:45 GMT, (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote:

Subject: FCC Assigns RM Numbers To Three New Restructuring Petitions
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 4/5/2004 1:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

Here in EPA, after about 1980 the predominant entry license was the Tech.
This
was true even before it lost its code test. The reason was 2 meter/440
access,
which Novices didn't have. A prospective ham would see almost every ham with
a
2 meter HT or mobile, ask "what license do I need to talk to you guys" and
wind
up with a Tech. Code or no code.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), as a government entity, is
not under any regulations of the Federal Communications Commission
(FCC). EPA operating on amateur radio bands is a violation of the
Communications Act of 1934.

SNIP.

What a putz.

One more example of NO practical experience in Amateur Radio practice.

One more time Lennie hangs it out only to have it trampled on, wondering
why we are not blinded with his infinite wisdom and wonderous revelations.

Y'dont think that the EPA comment might have been intended as wry
humour? hi hi


You're an IDIOT, Anderson. Thanks for making sure we don't forget.

Steve, K4YZ

Well, the challenge of comminicating without name calling or
expletives didn't last long - Steve, you sure killed that one!

Way to go.

73, Leo

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: FCC Assigns RM Numbers To Three New Restructuring Petitions
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 4/5/2004 1:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

Here in EPA, after about 1980 the predominant entry license was the Tech.
This
was true even before it lost its code test. The reason was 2 meter/440
access,
which Novices didn't have. A prospective ham would see almost every ham with
a
2 meter HT or mobile, ask "what license do I need to talk to you guys" and
wind
up with a Tech. Code or no code.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), as a government entity, is
not under any regulations of the Federal Communications Commission
(FCC). EPA operating on amateur radio bands is a violation of the
Communications Act of 1934.

SNIP.

What a putz.

One more example of NO practical experience in Amateur Radio practice.

One more time Lennie hangs it out only to have it trampled on, wondering
why we are not blinded with his infinite wisdom and wonderous revelations.

You're an IDIOT, Anderson. Thanks for making sure we don't forget.

Steve, K4YZ

I just scanned through the "FREQUENCY" database. I don't see the EPA
with a single amateur frequency listed. Hmmmm?

So, will the "Dynamited Duo," formerly known as TAFKARJ and Steve, not
to be confused with "Ren and Stimpy," please indicate what secret
Amateur Frequencies that the EPA has or uses.

Thanks.

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...


Here in EPA,

snip


73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim, do you work for the EPA?

In article , Leo
writes:

Here in EPA, after about 1980 the predominant entry license was the Tech.
This
was true even before it lost its code test. The reason was 2 meter/440
access,
which Novices didn't have. A prospective ham would see almost every ham
with
a
2 meter HT or mobile, ask "what license do I need to talk to you guys" and
wind
up with a Tech. Code or no code.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), as a government entity, is
not under any regulations of the Federal Communications Commission
(FCC). EPA operating on amateur radio bands is a violation of the
Communications Act of 1934.

SNIP.

What a putz.

One more example of NO practical experience in Amateur Radio practice.

One more time Lennie hangs it out only to have it trampled on,
wondering
why we are not blinded with his infinite wisdom and wonderous revelations.

Y'dont think that the EPA comment might have been intended as wry
humour? hi hi

Ho ho. :-)

Perhaps their wry comes in a bottle?

You're an IDIOT, Anderson. Thanks for making sure we don't forget.

Steve, K4YZ

Well, the challenge of comminicating without name calling or
expletives didn't last long - Steve, you sure killed that one!

Way to go.

Murderous rage is not a flavor of good humor...or Ben & Jerry.

They scream but not Ice cream. :-)

LHA / WMD

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

The country is divided up into around a hundred zones by the ARRL.

Really? Does the federal government know this? USC&GS?

USPS? How about 300 million of the citizenry?

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I'm having roast rabbit for Easter dinner. :-)

I'm having slow-cooked ham every day...sometimes they get
overheated by themselves... :-)

LHA / WMD