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Old March 29th 04, 01:05 AM
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.


Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them
to.


Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


DDF,

Liberal-Left Propaganga is NOT what Bush actually said.

But the Subject HeadLine "Bush Backs Broadband"
and the Twisting of the Message to "Bush Backs PBL"

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Old March 29th 04, 03:39 AM
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RHF wrote:

= = = "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot


Act

II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a


population

as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter


after

all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells


them

to.


Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



DDF,

Liberal-Left Propaganga is NOT what Bush actually said.

But the Subject HeadLine "Bush Backs Broadband"
and the Twisting of the Message to "Bush Backs PBL"


Since you invoked the "L" word, it is kind of strange that the methods
of implementing the "universal access called for in the speech:

"We ought to have universal, affordable access to broadband technology
by the year 2007," Bush said in a speech focusing mostly on homeownership.

"And then we ought to make sure that as soon as possible thereafter
consumers
have plenty of choices..."

Assuming that we would have to expand the cable tv broadband system -
and if there is to be universal access, this would almost certainly mean
changing cable data service to a public utility. Remember that cable is
at present NOT a Public utility, it cannot be forced to run it's lines
where it doesn't see a profit.

Supplying broadband to everyone in the country is a project similar to
the electrification of rural America.

And right now, there are certainly *not* plenty of choices. So it is
left up to the listener to determine how the number of choices will be
expanded.

So to me it is a very liberal idea to even attempt universal broadband
access, and since not many other choices are available for increasing
the number of choices, it by default includes BPL.

- Mike KB3EIA -


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Old March 29th 04, 03:44 AM
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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RHF wrote:

= = = "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
= = = ...

"reasonable doubt" wrote in message
v.net...

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act

II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol

Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population

as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after

all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them

to.


Broadband doesn't always mean BPL. You are getting confused here.
Broadband can be via cable modem such as I just signed up for or even

via a
wireless system. Do not assume that the term Broadband, when used

alone,
means BPL (Broadband over Power Line).

I saw the news clip and BPL was not mentioned, only Broadband.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



DDF,

Liberal-Left Propaganga is NOT what Bush actually said.

But the Subject HeadLine "Bush Backs Broadband"
and the Twisting of the Message to "Bush Backs PBL"


Since you invoked the "L" word, it is kind of strange that the methods
of implementing the "universal access called for in the speech:

"We ought to have universal, affordable access to broadband technology
by the year 2007," Bush said in a speech focusing mostly on

homeownership.
"And then we ought to make sure that as soon as possible thereafter
consumers
have plenty of choices..."

Assuming that we would have to expand the cable tv broadband system -
and if there is to be universal access, this would almost certainly mean
changing cable data service to a public utility. Remember that cable is
at present NOT a Public utility, it cannot be forced to run it's lines
where it doesn't see a profit.

Supplying broadband to everyone in the country is a project similar to
the electrification of rural America.


And most of the electrification of rural America was NOT done by the
utilities. The rural residents themselves banded together and got the lines
run. Once the lines were in place, then the public "futility" was happy to
take over as the major expense had already been covered by someone else.

And right now, there are certainly *not* plenty of choices. So it is
left up to the listener to determine how the number of choices will be
expanded.

So to me it is a very liberal idea to even attempt universal broadband
access, and since not many other choices are available for increasing
the number of choices, it by default includes BPL.

- Mike KB3EIA -


The universal access with multiple choices means very heavy investment as
now that could be construed to mean that BPL, DSL, cable, and WI-FI all need
set up in our rural areas to provide those choices. Guess what! Ain't
gonna happen.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.


Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them
to.


Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information Access...

RG


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"RadioGuy" wrote in message
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reasonable doubt wrote in message
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.


Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them
to.


Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information

Access...

RG


Do not confuse Broadband with BPL. Broadband access can be achieved without
BPL.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



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Old March 28th 04, 05:10 PM
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Dee D. Flint wrote in message
...

"RadioGuy" wrote in message
...

reasonable doubt wrote in message
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet

access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since

Patriot
Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol

Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving

their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government

tells
them
to.


Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information

Access...

RG


Do not confuse Broadband with BPL. Broadband access can be achieved

without
BPL.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I don't... I view broadband as large quantities of data accessed in short
periods of time.

RG


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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.


Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot

Act
II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a

population
as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter

after
all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells

them
to.


Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information

Access...

RG


BPL will be a god send for the FBI. All they will need to do is plug in and
listen. Probably won't even need a piece of paper. Since its all over the
HF spectrum anyway. So much for secure connections. Now do you all
understand what is REALLY going on?

Dan/W4NTI


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"RadioGuy" wrote in message
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reasonable doubt wrote in message
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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) - President Bush, hunting for votes in hotly
contested Sun Belt states, said Friday his administration is working
toward wiring homes throughout America with high-speed Internet access
by 2007.

Seems rather inconsistent with his current policy though. Since Patriot


Act

II peeled through, I see more of a totalitarian agenda from Capitol Hill
that, in good keeping with dictatorship policy would stand to lose by
widespread high-speed internet access. Of course, when you have a


population

as stupid as the American populace I suppose it really doesn't matter


after

all. I fairly sure that there are some Americans somewhere waving their
flags about this BPL news, as they do for anything the government tells


them

to.


Hardly... I see broadband as another step toward Total Information


Access...

RG



BPL will be a god send for the FBI. All they will need to do is plug in and
listen. Probably won't even need a piece of paper. Since its all over the
HF spectrum anyway. So much for secure connections. Now do you all
understand what is REALLY going on?

Dan/W4NTI


And the average teenage hacker will have a hayday and so will the
hackers stealing passwords, personsl infomation, credit card info, ect.,
ect.

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HF spectrum anyway. So much for secure connections. Now do you all
understand what is REALLY going on?

Dan/W4NTI


You betcha, though it's ironic how few Americans in this "well informed"
environment have any inkling as to what's actually happening in this good
'ole USofA. Reliable news feeds are available and anyone can look, but it's
remarkable how few people can connect the dots. History is repeating itself.
Problem is, it's only been 50 years since the fall of the Reich; way too
short a time for an encore, but here we are.

Read and be educated, folks...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/index.html

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/

http://www.truthout.com/





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