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Old April 14th 04, 12:44 AM
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The ham spirit has now totally
disapeared,


Sadly you are correct in some manner ......it is there but changed to
something else and I wish I had the wisdom to describe what it is now. I
think that the "magic" is gone with the advent of the computer and the
everyday wiz-bang of modern technology. I am not lamenting this as this is
progress ......it is just the way it is. It remains to be seen if ham
radio as we have known it will be a recognizable in 20 to 30 years given the
changes of the last 20. Again I am not tearing my rament and covering my
head with ashes. It is up to us to pass on the positive traditions of our
service. The question to ask yourself is how you have been a positive for
the service ......not carping about things that have gone under the bridge
years ago.







Having a callsign is not
a proof of respectability. Take care !


Does the Pope serve mass on Easter Sunday ....do bears dump in the woods
etc. Unfortunately some of the biggest jerks I have known in my life have
had call letters .....

God Bless ....Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa.


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Old April 14th 04, 02:56 AM
Jim Hampton
 
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"Anonymous" wrote in message
g...

On the site swap.qth.com, some guys try
to trade ham-radio equipments. Most of
the ads are fake either the seller is a
crook or the wares are still sold but
not removed from the site.
Sellers consider buyers like pidgeons,
some say that their equipment is "mint"
although in reality its in poor
condition (even with non-working
functions or totally dead).
Having a callsign is not
a proof of respectability. Take care !


The secret is in the site you visit. In one Yahoo group, there have been
offers which are all legitimate (and the price is invariably very kind to
the buyer). This is not unlike researching products. I spent time trying
to determine if one particular product would work or not - it took some
searching, but I found my answer (no, it does *not* work) on the web from
the New England Medical Journal. I consider the New England Medical Journal
an honest source of information (if, of course, that is the type of
information I happen to be looking for).

Many sites are simply a number of sellers looking for buyers. Some are
legitimate; others not. This is the same for the general population. There
are athletes who are quite honest; others use steroids or corked bats. It
is up to the buyer to sort out the information. Buyer beware. It has
nothing to do with an amateur license, despite your anonymous troll
suggesting otherwise.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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Old April 14th 04, 04:44 AM
Mike Coslo
 
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Jim Hampton wrote:

"Anonymous" wrote in message
g...

On the site swap.qth.com, some guys try
to trade ham-radio equipments. Most of
the ads are fake either the seller is a
crook or the wares are still sold but
not removed from the site.
Sellers consider buyers like pidgeons,
some say that their equipment is "mint"
although in reality its in poor
condition (even with non-working
functions or totally dead).
Having a callsign is not
a proof of respectability. Take care !



The secret is in the site you visit. In one Yahoo group, there have been
offers which are all legitimate (and the price is invariably very kind to
the buyer). This is not unlike researching products. I spent time trying
to determine if one particular product would work or not - it took some
searching, but I found my answer (no, it does *not* work) on the web from
the New England Medical Journal. I consider the New England Medical Journal
an honest source of information (if, of course, that is the type of
information I happen to be looking for).

Many sites are simply a number of sellers looking for buyers. Some are
legitimate; others not. This is the same for the general population. There
are athletes who are quite honest; others use steroids or corked bats. It
is up to the buyer to sort out the information. Buyer beware. It has
nothing to do with an amateur license, despite your anonymous troll
suggesting otherwise.


I don't know about the "amateur radio spirit being dead" because of
poor selling practices. (see my post about "How to attract people to the
ARS - especially the "bitch Bitch Bitch" part) 8^)

There is a good cure for dishonest selling practices. Don't buy the
stuff! I either buy new, or directly from a person where I can see the
equipment, hold it in my hands, and talk to the owner. And it will
either be a good price, or I'll just go buy something new with a nice
warrantee

Lets face it, anyone that is willing to pay almost new prices for
equipment that they never saw, from someone that they don't know, and
with no guarantee is going to find trouble.

BTW, if enough people take my approach, we'll see that used equipment
prices take a nice fast tumble!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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