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	om: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (gunnery nurse trying to impersonate an offizier uf das newsgroup polizei) writes: All of Lennie's usual "look at how much smarter I am than you" rantings snipped. "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue", from the laundry list of lies and other obfuscations of Leonard H. Anderson. Scumbag, liar, putz. All in one package. Did your wifey do the ribbon, Lennie...??? Steve, K4YZ LOL, Thanks steve. Good one. KB7ADL  | 
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	(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (gunnery nurse trying to impersonate an offizier uf das newsgroup polizei) writes: All of Lennie's usual "look at how much smarter I am than you" rantings snipped. Tsk, tsk, tsk...really and truly frustrated by something? Poor nursie. "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue", from the laundry list of lies and other obfuscations of Leonard H. Anderson. Scumbag, liar, putz. Nice environment you are the model of... :-) ARRL turned you down for a PR job, did they? [wonder why...] This thread was originally just a list of names of those picking certain dates for the elimination of the manual telegraphy test for a United States amateur radio license. This thread has mutated (as usual) into yet-another pile of h-s personal attack diatribe, hatred spewing denigrations of those not favored by nursie. Nursie needs mental help. Has needed it for a long time. Obviously the "rehab" wasn't complete. Remember, MARS is NOT amateur radio. Temper fry... LHA / WMD  | 
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	From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/24/2004 2:08 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: When you've obtained a license under any standard, perhaps you'll be able to engage in a rational discussion of amateur radio licensing. I already have several licenses. None of them on FCC form 660, and none of them granting operating priviledges in the Amateur Radio Service. tsk, tsk, tsk...you should read what was WRITTEN, little man. Herr Robust said NOTHING about any "FCC form 660." But I did. You are still not a licensed Amateur Radio operator. Too incompetent to pass the test, obviously. Actually, the one with way too much time on his hands is you, Lennie...Perhaps if YOU had an Amateur Radio license and spent some time on the air you'd have less to waste...?!?! I'm retired, gunnery nurse. Comfortable income, money in the bank, good health, nice home, wonderful wife. I've got U.S. patent 3,848,191. You haven't got any. [which may be your problem...] Don't need a "patent", Lennie. I'll accept all of your assertions as true, especialloy the ones about your wife...It would take a woman with a heart of gold (or too broken and depressed) to tolerate a creep like you. I guess SOMEONE had to do it, though. [can you understand it better if written all-caps?] LEONARD H. ANDERSON IS A FOOL. Nope. Yep. YOU continue to prove it. "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"... From the archived lies of Leonard H. Anderson. The gunnery nurse is here only to attempt personal attacks on humans he can't get along with. Poor baby. First of all, you're not what I consider to be human. Secondly, you provide me the stuff to work with. Lastly, it's not an "attack" if it's true. Hello? I've got SEVERAL licenses by SEVERAL STANDARDS. None of them an Amateur Radio license, and none of them with ANY experience in practical Amateur Radio applications. Poor deluded gunnery nurse...thinks amateur radios work by different laws of physics than any other radio...thinks amateur radios won't work without passing a test for manual telegraphy. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You continue to avoid the fact that "physics" are not the issue. And I have never suggested that the ONLY test to take was the Morse test. I have repeatedly encouraged you to take the Amateur Technician since it doesn't require a Morse Code examination. However you still seem stymied byt the process. Actually, I think it's because you might have to actually demonstrate your REAL knowledge base...Your ego wouldn't allow you to expose yourself to the ridicule of failing the test in a room full of grade school kids who just passed it. Poor baby. Sucks to be Lennie. You have "point blank" demanded that I or others "shut up"..."go away", etc etc etc. I don't shoot blanks, little gunnery nurse. Obviously you do. Tell us about those kids you raised that helped you to formulate an informed opinion on the ability of teenagers (and younger) to be competent Amateur licensees...?!?! Oh yeah...I forgot, that's yet another arena in which you slobbered your ill-prepared vulgarities in. But then stand-up-manship was never your forte. "Stand-up-manship?" :-) You mean like the puerile little penwomanship you exhibit all the time with such cute phrases like "putz," "your scumminess," "sucks to be you," etc., etc., etc. But you ARE a putz, Lennie. It DOES suck to be you, and you are scummy. So what's the problem? So far, all YOU have been able to offer is what you can glean from various websites or second hand opinions. Not "glean" but rather reveal, as in regulations and directives of the latest effective dates. And absolutely NO practical experience...Not one second's worth. Gunnery nurse was UNABLE to name or reference a single MARS directive or regulation in three weeks of give-and-take with Brian Burke. UNABLE. Despite holding an "amateur extra" license (suitable for framing), gunnery nurse tried to bluff and bluster through an argument, NOT ONCE being ABLE to reference a single directive or regulation concerning MARS. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Didn't need to, Lennie. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Just like the slap in the face, it doesn't need to be documented that it hurts to KNOW it hurts... Poor gunnery nurse is sick and disgusted that anyone not licensed in amateur radio EVER worked in other radio on a professional basis...and for half a century! I think it's great, Lennie. I just think you're a scumbag for trying to push your oblivious weight around in THIS forum over Amateur PRACTICE when you have abasolutely ZERO experience in it. The real pitiful part is knowing that you probably were a lot of the things you claim, only to have it all undone by your now well documented propensity for lying and antagonism. Again...Sucks to be you. I have to commit adultery with some "Mrs. Scummy" to do all that? Nope...Just roll over and tap her on the shoulder tonight. Or is that walk down the hall and tap on the door...?!?! Pot/Kettle/Black...Witness your own frequent "demands" peppered with liberal doses of profanity and lack of facts. "Liberal doses of 'profanity?'" Tsk, tsk, tsk...talk about the deep black pot with continued use of a Yiddish colloquialism for "asshole" (the word "putz") trying to call anyone else nasty... But you ARE a putz, Lennie. The very post I am responding to has only served to revalidate that assertion. Get some mental therapy and work on your ability to get along with others. It will help you and those around you. I am still waiting for you to enlighten us as to what credentials in "mental health" you have that qualify you to make that suggestion. So far, your identity crisis has resulted only in some mild amusement for me and a a lot of irritation to other readers in here. That is NOT good for your image. The amusement IS all yours, Lennie. I quite clearly imagine you laughing at a lot of things, not all of them perceptible to those around you. Laugh on, Lennie. You're the putz the REST of us are laughing at. Steve, K4YZ  | 
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	Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: The Pool From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/24/2004 2:08 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: When you've obtained a license under any standard, perhaps you'll be able to engage in a rational discussion of amateur radio licensing. I already have several licenses. None of them on FCC form 660, and none of them granting operating priviledges in the Amateur Radio Service. tsk, tsk, tsk...you should read what was WRITTEN, little man. Herr Robust said NOTHING about any "FCC form 660." But I did. You are still not a licensed Amateur Radio operator. Too incompetent to pass the test, obviously. :-) Nursie is beyond rational thought...or any reasoning. Actually, the one with way too much time on his hands is you, Lennie...Perhaps if YOU had an Amateur Radio license and spent some time on the air you'd have less to waste...?!?! I'm retired, gunnery nurse. Comfortable income, money in the bank, good health, nice home, wonderful wife. I've got U.S. patent 3,848,191. You haven't got any. [which may be your problem...] Don't need a "patent", Lennie. You should get one. You have made the grade of original, but rather disordered thought, on advancing the state of the known art on insulting others. :-) I'll accept all of your assertions as true, especialloy the ones about your wife...It would take a woman with a heart of gold (or too broken and depressed) to tolerate a creep like you. "Gold especialloy?!?" :-) :-) :-) Sorry, you've called me a "liar" too many times for you to "accept" anything I've written. You've insulted my wife way too many times, in public, without knowing a single thing about her, to "accept" any turnaround in your attitude. I guess SOMEONE had to do it, though. You are really and truly bitter and frustrated, aren't you? You can't stop your obsessive hatred of certain other people. You really need some mental therapy. First of all, you're not what I consider to be human. Hoo boy, you are on a hatred roll there. Don't slip in the bitter. Secondly, you provide me the stuff to work with. No. That's your own fevered, angry mind busy fantasizing. Lastly, it's not an "attack" if it's true. It's not true. It IS a personal attack. You aren't a divinity and cannot define what is "right" or "wrong." You are unable to relate to civil society. Poor deluded gunnery nurse...thinks amateur radios work by different laws of physics than any other radio...thinks amateur radios won't work without passing a test for manual telegraphy. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You continue to avoid the fact that "physics" are not the issue. Then why are you so insistent that I take some kind of amateur test? I've already passed commercial and industry tests long ago. Made a good living at that kind of work. You keep denigrating a career in radio-electronics by others. Why? Are you THAT resentful of others having success at a chosen field of endeavor? [that's not a good mental picture, all that resentment] And I have never suggested that the ONLY test to take was the Morse test. A manual telegraphy test is NECESSARY for a U.S. amateur radio license examination having below-30-MHz-privileges. That's LAW. I have repeatedly encouraged you to take the Amateur Technician since it doesn't require a Morse Code examination. To adopt nursie's own line of response, "you are LYING SOB*." You've NEVER "encouraged" anyone, you crock of salacious snit. You've COMMANDED as if you were some kind of Dill instructor in the murines. :-) * SOB = Son Of a Beeper. However you still seem stymied byt the process. There is NO REQUIREMENT to have any amateur radio license in a newsgroup. Quit trying to COMMAND something that isn't "regulation." :-) Actually, I think it's because you might have to actually demonstrate your REAL knowledge base... Define "REAL knowledge," nursie. Being able to sing hymns in the Church of St. Hiram? Memorizing stacks of advertisements in QST? Memorizing the Amateur's Code as if it were military General Orders? Your mind has flipped out of reality long ago. Hint: One doesn't get regular paychecks for demonstrating false knowledge on the job. [engineering isn't like purchasing parts in a small company for less than a half year] Your mind has flipped out of reality long ago. Hint: One doesn't get magazine articles reviewed and accepted by editors for being false. [just because you can't understand them doesn't make them false] Your mind has flipped out of reality long ago. Hint: Nightime college classes are rated the same way as daytime college classes and tests there are rated and graded the same. Your ego wouldn't allow you to expose yourself to the ridicule of failing the test in a room full of grade school kids who just passed it. I would have NO "ego problems" with being in any room full of grade school kids whether there was a test or not. Is it required in amateur radio to sink down to the knowledge level of grade school kids in order to be a "real ham?" I've been a commercial illustrator and still capable of working in several media from pencil through oils. Do you expect me to "test in fingerpainting" (a la kindergarten classes) to show my skills in art? If "real ham radio" can be accomplished by "grade school kids," is that some kind of inducement for adult activity? You are way to childish for me to take you seriously as an adult. Tell us about those kids you raised that helped you to formulate an informed opinion on the ability of teenagers (and younger) to be competent Amateur licensees...?!?! Tell us about your "normal" teenagers. This isn't a hobby of child welfare. Oh yeah...I forgot, that's yet another arena in which you slobbered your ill-prepared vulgarities in. ? I am supposed to sire children in order to obtain a "real ham license?" You are becoming obscene, not heard... But you ARE a putz, Lennie. It DOES suck to be you, and you are scummy. So what's the problem? I have no problem. YOU have one. Basically, YOUR problem is this terrible obsession of being unable to let go your hatred of anyone who stands up to you and shows you what you are doing wrong. You can't just drop a subject and go on to another. You have to bring up that hatred time and time again. That isn't normal behavior. So far, all YOU have been able to offer is what you can glean from various websites or second hand opinions. Not "glean" but rather reveal, as in regulations and directives of the latest effective dates. And absolutely NO practical experience...Not one second's worth. "No practical experience" in MARS? Sorry, I do. MARS had second priority on one of the transmitter circuits at ADA in Japan long ago. Gunnery nurse was UNABLE to name or reference a single MARS directive or regulation in three weeks of give-and-take with Brian Burke. UNABLE. Despite holding an "amateur extra" license (suitable for framing), gunnery nurse tried to bluff and bluster through an argument, NOT ONCE being ABLE to reference a single directive or regulation concerning MARS. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Didn't need to, Lennie. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. Just like the slap in the face, it doesn't need to be documented that it hurts to KNOW it hurts... You have to understand that MARS did NOT grow out your fantasy or myths that you cherish when unable to comprehend reality. MARS was "born" in 1925 as the AARS or Army Amateur Radio System. After WW2 and silencing of the AARS, it was reborn in 1948 in both the Army and the new USAF as MARS, or Military Affiliate Radio System. The USN joined in a few years later. The Directive and all Regulations are quite clear, unambiguous, and available to anyone. The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. I just think you're a scumbag for trying to push your oblivious weight around in THIS forum over Amateur PRACTICE when you have abasolutely ZERO experience in it. Tough on you, isn't it? :-) The real pitiful part is knowing that you probably were a lot of the things you claim, only to have it all undone by your now well documented propensity for lying and antagonism. Ooooo...trying for new distinctive literary imagery, are you? :-) You are resentful and bitter that anyone else can have experience in REAL COMMUNICATIONS as well as holding a REAL JOB in the radio-electronics industry. Tsk, tsk, tsk...you triumph amateur radio as "better" because you've not done any of that REAL communicating. Again...Sucks to be you. Tsk, tsk, tsk...all that hatred and bitterness showing again. YOU don't have experience in REAL communications or in REAL radio-electronics work so you insult those that have done it. Amateur radio is supposed to be an enjoyable avocational radio activity carried on for personal enjoyment. You don't demonstrate that at all. You USE amateur radio as a spring- board to dive into another ranting spate of personal insults. Tsk, tsk, tsk...talk about the deep black pot with continued use of a Yiddish colloquialism for "asshole" (the word "putz") trying to call anyone else nasty... But you ARE a putz, Lennie. Is nursie Jewish? [oy, gevalt!] Get some mental therapy and work on your ability to get along with others. It will help you and those around you. I am still waiting for you to enlighten us as to what credentials in "mental health" you have that qualify you to make that suggestion. "Credentials" to observe a demented person vent bile time and again in public, insulting anyone who has the slightest disagreement with him? Not necessary. It is plain to everyone. The amusement IS all yours, Lennie. I quite clearly imagine you laughing at a lot of things, not all of them perceptible to those around you. Laugh on, Lennie. You're the putz the REST of us are laughing at. Tsk, tsk, tsk...your multiple personalities got together to stage a protest, did they? Sorry you are (said Yoda). Temper fry... LHA / WMD  | 
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	(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... I have repeatedly encouraged you to take the Amateur Technician since it doesn't require a Morse Code examination. Why, Steve? Why do you encourage Mr. Anderson to get an amateur radio license, given the way he behaves here towards anyone who disagrees with him? Do you really *want* him to join the ARS? Now wait just a minute. You idly stood by for years while Dick, Larry, Steve, Steve, Bruce, Kelly, et all, grossly misbehaved, then you beg them to join your CW nets. Where were your words of caution then? Why do you intentionally associate with such people? They said they were good as gold because they made it through the filter, and they wouldn't behave so horribly while on the air. Mr. Anderson told us way back in January of 2000 (almost 4-1/2 years ago) that he was "going for Extra right out of the box". Didn't happen, probably won't happen any time soon, if ever. You told us just last week that you have no opinion of "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Jim does have an opinion. One day he just might voice it. But not while whacked out Steve is doing his battle for him. Just as Jim had an opinion of Bruce. An opinion that he sat on for years and years, until Bruce's outrages became even too much for Jim to bear. The Tech hasn't had a code test in over 13 years and medical waivers for all code tests except 5 wpm were available in 1990. None of this is news or any sort of secret. If Mr. Anderson were interested in being a radio amateur, he would have gotten a license long ago. So there's only one logical conclusion left. What might that be, Jim? Do you think that calling him "Lennie" or various versions of "scummy" or "liar" will change his behavior, or opinions, or get him to admit any of his many mistakes? Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, getting *you* to behave in a manner similar to *his* might be one of his real goals? So you think Steve is so easily and blatantly manipulated? I do. I snipped out all of the name calling and insults in the post I replied to - and there wasn't much left. Nowadays I don't even read most rrap posts past the first insult. Many I don't read past the author line. I try to look for some good in everything rather than dismissing it outright. However you still seem stymied byt the process. Actually, I think it's because you might have to actually demonstrate your REAL knowledge base...Your ego wouldn't allow you to expose yourself to the ridicule of failing the test in a room full of grade school kids who just passed it. Did it ever occur to you, Steve, that Mr. Anderson could pass the test if he wanted to - but that he doesn't want to? That his hobby is something very different? I think Mr. Anderson is not interested in a VHF license. Just my opinion. You'll have to ask him. Look back over the past several years. Do you really think Mr. Anderson will *ever* engage in civil debate here on *any* subject? I don't seem to have a problem. And I've always been civil with the other Jim, KH2D. Gee! Or that Mr. Burke will answer any questions that he doesn't want to answer (while at the same time asking all sorts of questions of others)? You're free to disclose as much or as little as you like. For instance, you disclosed no opinion when asked if, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio" were a valid statement. But worse, you lied and said that you had no opinion. Of course you have an opinion. Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? Best of Luck.  | 
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