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May 25th 04, 03:42 PM
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Subject: The Pool
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/24/2004 2:08 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: When you've obtained a license under any standard, perhaps you'll be able to engage in a rational discussion of amateur radio licensing. I already have several licenses. None of them on FCC form 660, and none of them granting operating priviledges in the Amateur Radio Service. tsk, tsk, tsk...you should read what was WRITTEN, little man. Herr Robust said NOTHING about any "FCC form 660." But I did. You are still not a licensed Amateur Radio operator. Too incompetent to pass the test, obviously. Actually, the one with way too much time on his hands is you, Lennie...Perhaps if YOU had an Amateur Radio license and spent some time on the air you'd have less to waste...?!?! I'm retired, gunnery nurse. Comfortable income, money in the bank, good health, nice home, wonderful wife. I've got U.S. patent 3,848,191. You haven't got any. [which may be your problem...] Don't need a "patent", Lennie. I'll accept all of your assertions as true, especialloy the ones about your wife...It would take a woman with a heart of gold (or too broken and depressed) to tolerate a creep like you. I guess SOMEONE had to do it, though. [can you understand it better if written all-caps?] LEONARD H. ANDERSON IS A FOOL. Nope. Yep. YOU continue to prove it. "I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"... From the archived lies of Leonard H. Anderson. The gunnery nurse is here only to attempt personal attacks on humans he can't get along with. Poor baby. First of all, you're not what I consider to be human. Secondly, you provide me the stuff to work with. Lastly, it's not an "attack" if it's true. Hello? I've got SEVERAL licenses by SEVERAL STANDARDS. None of them an Amateur Radio license, and none of them with ANY experience in practical Amateur Radio applications. Poor deluded gunnery nurse...thinks amateur radios work by different laws of physics than any other radio...thinks amateur radios won't work without passing a test for manual telegraphy. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You continue to avoid the fact that "physics" are not the issue. And I have never suggested that the ONLY test to take was the Morse test. I have repeatedly encouraged you to take the Amateur Technician since it doesn't require a Morse Code examination. However you still seem stymied byt the process. Actually, I think it's because you might have to actually demonstrate your REAL knowledge base...Your ego wouldn't allow you to expose yourself to the ridicule of failing the test in a room full of grade school kids who just passed it. Poor baby. Sucks to be Lennie. You have "point blank" demanded that I or others "shut up"..."go away", etc etc etc. I don't shoot blanks, little gunnery nurse. Obviously you do. Tell us about those kids you raised that helped you to formulate an informed opinion on the ability of teenagers (and younger) to be competent Amateur licensees...?!?! Oh yeah...I forgot, that's yet another arena in which you slobbered your ill-prepared vulgarities in. But then stand-up-manship was never your forte. "Stand-up-manship?" :-) You mean like the puerile little penwomanship you exhibit all the time with such cute phrases like "putz," "your scumminess," "sucks to be you," etc., etc., etc. But you ARE a putz, Lennie. It DOES suck to be you, and you are scummy. So what's the problem? So far, all YOU have been able to offer is what you can glean from various websites or second hand opinions. Not "glean" but rather reveal, as in regulations and directives of the latest effective dates. And absolutely NO practical experience...Not one second's worth. Gunnery nurse was UNABLE to name or reference a single MARS directive or regulation in three weeks of give-and-take with Brian Burke. UNABLE. Despite holding an "amateur extra" license (suitable for framing), gunnery nurse tried to bluff and bluster through an argument, NOT ONCE being ABLE to reference a single directive or regulation concerning MARS. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Didn't need to, Lennie. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Just like the slap in the face, it doesn't need to be documented that it hurts to KNOW it hurts... Poor gunnery nurse is sick and disgusted that anyone not licensed in amateur radio EVER worked in other radio on a professional basis...and for half a century! I think it's great, Lennie. I just think you're a scumbag for trying to push your oblivious weight around in THIS forum over Amateur PRACTICE when you have abasolutely ZERO experience in it. The real pitiful part is knowing that you probably were a lot of the things you claim, only to have it all undone by your now well documented propensity for lying and antagonism. Again...Sucks to be you. I have to commit adultery with some "Mrs. Scummy" to do all that? Nope...Just roll over and tap her on the shoulder tonight. Or is that walk down the hall and tap on the door...?!?! Pot/Kettle/Black...Witness your own frequent "demands" peppered with liberal doses of profanity and lack of facts. "Liberal doses of 'profanity?'" Tsk, tsk, tsk...talk about the deep black pot with continued use of a Yiddish colloquialism for "asshole" (the word "putz") trying to call anyone else nasty... But you ARE a putz, Lennie. The very post I am responding to has only served to revalidate that assertion. Get some mental therapy and work on your ability to get along with others. It will help you and those around you. I am still waiting for you to enlighten us as to what credentials in "mental health" you have that qualify you to make that suggestion. So far, your identity crisis has resulted only in some mild amusement for me and a a lot of irritation to other readers in here. That is NOT good for your image. The amusement IS all yours, Lennie. I quite clearly imagine you laughing at a lot of things, not all of them perceptible to those around you. Laugh on, Lennie. You're the putz the REST of us are laughing at. Steve, K4YZ |
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May 26th 04, 07:09 PM
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May 26th 04, 10:06 PM
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May 27th 04, 02:52 AM
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(N2EY) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... I have repeatedly encouraged you to take the Amateur Technician since it doesn't require a Morse Code examination. Why, Steve? Why do you encourage Mr. Anderson to get an amateur radio license, given the way he behaves here towards anyone who disagrees with him? Do you really *want* him to join the ARS? Now wait just a minute. You idly stood by for years while Dick, Larry, Steve, Steve, Bruce, Kelly, et all, grossly misbehaved, then you beg them to join your CW nets. Where were your words of caution then? Why do you intentionally associate with such people? They said they were good as gold because they made it through the filter, and they wouldn't behave so horribly while on the air. Mr. Anderson told us way back in January of 2000 (almost 4-1/2 years ago) that he was "going for Extra right out of the box". Didn't happen, probably won't happen any time soon, if ever. You told us just last week that you have no opinion of "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Jim does have an opinion. One day he just might voice it. But not while whacked out Steve is doing his battle for him. Just as Jim had an opinion of Bruce. An opinion that he sat on for years and years, until Bruce's outrages became even too much for Jim to bear. The Tech hasn't had a code test in over 13 years and medical waivers for all code tests except 5 wpm were available in 1990. None of this is news or any sort of secret. If Mr. Anderson were interested in being a radio amateur, he would have gotten a license long ago. So there's only one logical conclusion left. What might that be, Jim? Do you think that calling him "Lennie" or various versions of "scummy" or "liar" will change his behavior, or opinions, or get him to admit any of his many mistakes? Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, getting *you* to behave in a manner similar to *his* might be one of his real goals? So you think Steve is so easily and blatantly manipulated? I do. I snipped out all of the name calling and insults in the post I replied to - and there wasn't much left. Nowadays I don't even read most rrap posts past the first insult. Many I don't read past the author line. I try to look for some good in everything rather than dismissing it outright. However you still seem stymied byt the process. Actually, I think it's because you might have to actually demonstrate your REAL knowledge base...Your ego wouldn't allow you to expose yourself to the ridicule of failing the test in a room full of grade school kids who just passed it. Did it ever occur to you, Steve, that Mr. Anderson could pass the test if he wanted to - but that he doesn't want to? That his hobby is something very different? I think Mr. Anderson is not interested in a VHF license. Just my opinion. You'll have to ask him. Look back over the past several years. Do you really think Mr. Anderson will *ever* engage in civil debate here on *any* subject? I don't seem to have a problem. And I've always been civil with the other Jim, KH2D. Gee! Or that Mr. Burke will answer any questions that he doesn't want to answer (while at the same time asking all sorts of questions of others)? You're free to disclose as much or as little as you like. For instance, you disclosed no opinion when asked if, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio" were a valid statement. But worse, you lied and said that you had no opinion. Of course you have an opinion. Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? Best of Luck. |
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May 27th 04, 03:26 AM
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(William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message .com... (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... I have repeatedly encouraged you to take the Amateur Technician since it doesn't require a Morse Code examination. Why, Steve? Why do you encourage Mr. Anderson to get an amateur radio license, given the way he behaves here towards anyone who disagrees with him? Do you really *want* him to join the ARS? Now wait just a minute. You idly stood by for years while Dick, Larry, Steve, Steve, Bruce, Kelly, et all, grossly misbehaved, then you beg them to join your CW nets. Dick, Larry, Steve, Steve, Bruce, Kelly et al, are PCTA. That makes them "correct" and "civil." PCTA can do no wrong. All others can do no right. Where were your words of caution then? Why do you intentionally associate with such people? PCTA are PCTA. They need not be civil or correct. They simply are. :-) They said they were good as gold because they made it through the filter, and they wouldn't behave so horribly while on the air. They might not have said it openly in those words, but they sure acted like it. Mr. Anderson told us way back in January of 2000 (almost 4-1/2 years ago) that he was "going for Extra right out of the box". Didn't happen, probably won't happen any time soon, if ever. You told us just last week that you have no opinion of "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Rev. Jim may be too busy celebrating the 160th anniversary of the first (commercial) morse code message. :-) Jim does have an opinion. One day he just might voice it. But not while whacked out Steve is doing his battle for him. PCTA are very forgiving of one another. They can do no wrong. They are Morsemen! [hear them roar...] Just as Jim had an opinion of Bruce. An opinion that he sat on for years and years, until Bruce's outrages became even too much for Jim to bear. Broose is tangential to everyone else. :-) The Tech hasn't had a code test in over 13 years and medical waivers for all code tests except 5 wpm were available in 1990. None of this is news or any sort of secret. If Mr. Anderson were interested in being a radio amateur, he would have gotten a license long ago. So there's only one logical conclusion left. What might that be, Jim? PCTA demand that all "interested in radio" take a code test. It was so in the beginning and it will be so to their bitter end. Do you think that calling him "Lennie" or various versions of "scummy" or "liar" will change his behavior, or opinions, or get him to admit any of his many mistakes? Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, getting *you* to behave in a manner similar to *his* might be one of his real goals? So you think Steve is so easily and blatantly manipulated? I do. Nursie manipulates himself. :-) I snipped out all of the name calling and insults in the post I replied to - and there wasn't much left. Nowadays I don't even read most rrap posts past the first insult. Many I don't read past the author line. I try to look for some good in everything rather than dismissing it outright. PCTA are very snobbish and elite. They be better than others. Sort of like the Daughters of the American Revolution. However you still seem stymied byt the process. Actually, I think it's because you might have to actually demonstrate your REAL knowledge base...Your ego wouldn't allow you to expose yourself to the ridicule of failing the test in a room full of grade school kids who just passed it. Did it ever occur to you, Steve, that Mr. Anderson could pass the test if he wanted to - but that he doesn't want to? That his hobby is something very different? I think Mr. Anderson is not interested in a VHF license. Just my opinion. You'll have to ask him. I've HAD a VHF radio license. It wasn't amateur. I was operating VHF and low-UHF back in 1954. PM, not FM. Look back over the past several years. Do you really think Mr. Anderson will *ever* engage in civil debate here on *any* subject? I don't seem to have a problem. And I've always been civil with the other Jim, KH2D. Gee! As I said, PCTA are the ONLY "civil" and "correct" people. All others are "uncivil" and "incorrect." :-) Or that Mr. Burke will answer any questions that he doesn't want to answer (while at the same time asking all sorts of questions of others)? You're free to disclose as much or as little as you like. For instance, you disclosed no opinion when asked if, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio" were a valid statement. But worse, you lied and said that you had no opinion. Of course you have an opinion. Of course. PCTA are the only ones "civil" and "correct." That's a given in here. All others are "lids," like tops of garbage cans. According to the PCTA. However, Dan has done something with Australians and I'm not sure I want to hear more about that... Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? Best of Luck. Interesting. The PCTA need a high-speed Internet forum in order to organize a schedule. :-) Says something right there... LHA / WMD |
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May 27th 04, 08:12 PM
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Subject: The Pool
From: (N2EY) Date: 5/26/2004 12:09 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? I hope so, Jim. I am trying to put up a new attic loop right now. I am also experimenting with the MFJ version of the manual bandspanner as an "emergency" antenna. I am trying to see if it can be used in an NVIS configuration, or if it is too mechanically short. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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May 28th 04, 02:45 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: The Pool From: (N2EY) Date: 5/26/2004 12:09 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? I hope so, Jim. I am trying to put up a new attic loop right now. I am also experimenting with the MFJ version of the manual bandspanner as an "emergency" antenna. I am trying to see if it can be used in an NVIS configuration, or if it is too mechanically short. 73 Steve, K4YZ NVIS prop is usually several db down ordinary skywave. |
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May 28th 04, 03:45 AM
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Subject: The Pool
From: (William) Date: 5/27/2004 7:45 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: The Pool From: (N2EY) Date: 5/26/2004 12:09 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? I hope so, Jim. I am trying to put up a new attic loop right now. I am also experimenting with the MFJ version of the manual bandspanner as an "emergency" antenna. I am trying to see if it can be used in an NVIS configuration, or if it is too mechanically short. 73 Steve, K4YZ NVIS prop is usually several db down ordinary skywave. Depends on who you want to talk to and where they are. Yes, from my QTH to yours would probably present a several db difference. But remember what NVIS is for. It's for using HF spectrum for local to regional communications. It's NOT for continental or DX purposes. I have a very specific need to have reliable comms on 3.5, 3.9, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6 and 7.9MHz. Especially within Tennessee and the Southeastern United States. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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June 1st 04, 04:08 PM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: The Pool From: (William) Date: 5/27/2004 7:45 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: The Pool From: (N2EY) Date: 5/26/2004 12:09 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Meanwhile, Amateur Radio continues. OTA, not here. Will we hear you on 7037 next Monday night? I hope so, Jim. I am trying to put up a new attic loop right now. I am also experimenting with the MFJ version of the manual bandspanner as an "emergency" antenna. I am trying to see if it can be used in an NVIS configuration, or if it is too mechanically short. 73 Steve, K4YZ NVIS prop is usually several db down ordinary skywave. Depends on who you want to talk to and where they are. As always. Yes, from my QTH to yours would probably present a several db difference. But remember what NVIS is for. It's for using HF spectrum for local to regional communications. It's NOT for continental or DX purposes. I have a very specific need to have reliable comms on 3.5, 3.9, 4.4, 4.5, 4.6 and 7.9MHz. Especially within Tennessee and the Southeastern United States. 73 Steve, K4YZ Steve, I know exactly what NVIS is for. I was trained by the inventor of the whip-tilt adapter at Hurlburt Field, FL. Brian |
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