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William June 8th 04 10:45 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact
there.

Funny.


Nope. True.

You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location,


Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share
KH0.

yet you
"lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.


Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?


From you, Brain.


Couldn't have. I've never said that.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


You've got 24 hours to Google that up, or you will forever be branded
a LIAR.

How inept.


What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's
quota. Better go easy.


Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion".


No, you did. You've asserted that I "lost" my /T5 logs, or that I
"can't find" them. That is false. Completely false.

Now Google up where I said that.

So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have previously
told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or misplaced.


I have logs. I've always said that I have the logas, and know that
you're not in them. I know exactly where the logs are. I've never
said that my logs were "lost" or that I "can't find" or that I
"misplaced" them.

You have made a false assertion.

You have been challenged to Google up the post where I've said the
things that you say I've said.

I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting tied up
in your own mistruths.


Absolutely not. I know exactly what I've said. So Google it up, you
peddler of mistruths.

Steve, K4YZ


By the way, did you know that "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio?"

Hihihi!

bb

Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:08 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 6/7/2004 9:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(He's
got it in his wallet Superham) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 6/6/2004 1:01 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact
there.

Funny.

You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location, yet

you
"lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.

Where are nursie's logs from Okinawa?

No proof = Nothing happened.

Unlike Brain, I can refer you to 15th Air Force Auxiliary Military

Radio
Service station callsign KA6CM, issued from Yakota, Japan, in August of

1981.

"Yakota?" :-)

"Refer me?" "Refer anyone?" A USAF MARS station? Oh, my!


Whoi said anything about MARS, Sir Putzy?

I said AMRS.


No, you did NOT write "AMRS" (therefore you did not "say anything").

You sound like you are making up things as you go along. Not
a new thing with nursie...

AMRS was the program underwhich US Armed Forces personnel were "licensed"
to operate those 2-by-2 KA callsigns in Japan until Japan finally created a
reciprocal licensing program for foreigners.


Sounds like you are describing "underwhich odor," nursie.

Better practice aespsis more. Your words be getting stinky.

Let's have some REAL "references" to this "AMRS" like from
governments.

An whut it say on dat "referral?" Is it hidden from view again?

Where are nursie's other claims?

No proof = Nothing happened.

You were provided adequate information to inquire directly of the
Veteran's Administration, Lennie.


Not good enough. NARA is the place. National Archives and
Records Administration. St. Louis.


And you can get the same questions answered via VA. The VA will
acknowledge requests for verification of service. As for the rest, you don't
need my entire service record.


Yes we do. It would explain your "seven hostile actions."

It would explain your REAL discharge type.

It would also give your REAL MOS.

Be my guest. Of course you won't...The answers would put a cork in YOUR
silliness.


Knowing all about the gunnery nurse's heroic military career is
not high on anyone's agenda. :-)

You can try by reading and UNDERSTANDING DoD Directive
4650.2 data 21 Nov 03. It don' say no ham be da hole MARS.


Lennie what did you do with that 14 years of college-level night school
you claim to have attended...?!?!


I got paid better. :-)

Here's a clue: Night school remedial English would help you
(touch typing in adverse stress environments doesn't hurt, either)
understand government and military directive/regulation wording.
However, none of that works if there isn't any intelligence behind
the squinty, reddened eyeballs to process the information.

DoD Directive 4650.2 explains MARS. MARS is a military
radio service. MARS is NOT amateur radio. [hasn't been so
since 1948] No amount of schooling, classes, whatever seems
to have any effect on your understanding a rather simple DoD
Directive.

Another lie?


No lie. sigh Poor nursie, still can't keep from tossing snit
at those who have done things nursie hasn't done? :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I have to repeat my resume in here (again) plus
giving references of (still living) radio amateurs who can attest
to that? Gunnery nurse would go even more ape-snit about
"CV" and yelling everything was a "lie." :-)

All these "meaningful discussions!" :-)

Len Anderson
retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person

Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:08 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact
there.

Funny.


Nope. True.

You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location,


Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share
KH0.

yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.


Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?


From you, Brain.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


Looks like nursie is trying to dump a log in here once more...

How inept.


What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's
quota. Better go easy.


Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion".


Go back and sit down, you aren't finished...

So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have previously
told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or misplaced.


Poor nursie, still trying to make a mountain out of a little pile of
dust (that fell out of his overloaded imagination).

I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting tied
up in your own mistruths.


"Seven hostile actions."

"MARS is amateur radio."

The medical discharge that turned "honorable" and so marked on
his DD-214.

Knows exactly where the Burbank, CA, HRO store is because
he "shopped there with some friends" yet he can't recall anything
of the surroundings before the store moved there.

Knows all about Naval Air Development Center because he was
assigned there (long after NADC was moved) which was really
Warminster NAS (across the road).

Has tutored "countless" newbies and "broken bread" with
more (countless?) visiting hams. [one has to wonder why he
has never been caught after trashing all those bakeries...]

Thinks all military radios are classified and therefore can't talk
about them...even though they've not been so for decades.

That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years.
He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never
ever makes any "untruths." :-)

Aren't all these "meaningful discussions" fun? :-)

LHA / WMD


Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:08 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
e.com...
(William) wrote in message
e.com...
Dave Heil wrote in message

...
William wrote:

(N2EY) wrote in message
e.com...
TeleTech wrote in message

3...


Do people put the /W4 on their QSL cards, etc?
Is this a big deal these days?

No and no.


Maybe, maybe not. Depends if the portable designation makes you a
different "country." If you were portable KL7 or KH6 or even KP4,

I'd
definitely put that on my card. Even if it weren't antoher country,
I'd still put it on my card.

bb

Yeah, sort of like T5/N0IMD. Just put it on a card.

Dave K8MN

I did. But you're not in that log book so you don't get one. Sorry.

Who, exactly, did ever get one?


Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either.


Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain.


The gunnery nurse put on his Military Interlocutor brassard?

[arm band says "MI" but trust me, folks, the second letter
doesn't stand for "intelligence."]

He didn't ask "..did I?"

He asked "..who did?"


Kellie wrote: "Who, exactly, did ever get one?"

That's exact. :-)

Nice try.


Temper fry.

LHA / WMD



[these things just seem to write themselves...:-) ]

Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:08 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:08 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
e.com...

The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went
freebanding.

w3rv


Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a
competent authority for me to have to produce proof for.


There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain.


Several newsgroup fully-licensed blowhards have demanded
proof, nursie. You be one of them.

Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...that nasty old mirror reflecting yourself as you
write these nastygrams.

Hello? Where and when those "seven hostile actions?"

That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further
substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up in order to be
able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !"


It's Mirror Time! :-)

"Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the mightiest ham of all?"

"Nursie, of course," said the mirror...who was really just another
personality in USMC class A full dress... :-)

Temper fry...

LHA / WMD


Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:08 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: "Avery Hightower"

Date: 6/7/2004 3:57 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .net

"N2EY" wrote in message
...

No proof = Reasonable doubt.

Nothing more or less.


You just don't get it, do you Jim. On rrap you must either agree with
K4CAP/K4YZ and accede to every whimsical demand of his, or you are a
low-life lying scum sucking weasel. Reasonable doubt is not an option.


What "reasonable doubt"...?!?! Two years of dodging requests for
validation of claims made...?!?!


"Seven hostile actions."

ALL the bragging about nursie's doing this, doing that, being the
most wonderfullest radio communicator, knowing exactly what
electronic engineering is, etc., etc., etc. :-)

And what "demands"...?!?! Again...Someone makes claims of having had
experiences that allegedly makes them "knowldegeable" of certain skills or
techniques, yet NO EVIDENCE of having actually done them...


I suppose all those years of memorizing all the advertisements in
QST must be good for something... :-)

However, we (the newsgroup readers) have NO proof whatsoever
about those "hostile actions" claims. We (the newsgroup readers)
haven't even been informed of their place and date.

Eh, Brain...?!?!


Who do you think you are messaging to?

Paranoia setting in again?

Did you invade Fantasy Island again?

LHA / WMD

N2EY June 8th 04 11:24 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 6/6/2004 11:58 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:


Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 6/5/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


In article , Dave Heil


writes:


We don't know that T5/N0IMD existed.

I think it did.

Why? Because he "said so"...?!?!


That's one reason. Lacking any proof to the contrary, I'm not going to call
someone a liar.


Then you're a bit more liberal than I am, I guess! =)


Not liberal. Accurate.

I figure after two years of being asked yet proactively dodging the ante
earns Brain the title.


Nope. A liar is someone who intentionally says things he/she knows are
untrue in an attempt to deceive. For all we know, the statements made
about the alleged operation by the alleged operator could all be true.

Sure you can...ie: Antarctica

Well, there you have it. It could have happened, and all of the above-named
conditions would have been met.


And I have yet to meet anyone who WAS "there" that didn't have SOME
memento of the occassion. I know three guys who were /KC4 who at least had
pics taken at the McMurdo and Little America signs outside the outpost's
complex.


But the alleged operation wasn't allegedly in Antartica.

However even there there are international agreements on who can grant
what authority, to whom, and under what circumstances.


Of course. I didn't say such operation would be 100% in agreement with
international requirements, just that it could happen.


Heck, it might not even be 1% in agreement. But it still could have
happened.

Sure it could...and J.Lo might leave her NEW husband and show up on my
doorstep begging for me to pleasure her...

I ain't holding my breath. However if she DOES show up, you can be darned
sure I will have SOME sort of proof before making outlandish claims!


That's you.


Brain was allegedly in a military unit under United Nations auspices,
and
it seems he did NOTHING to get the PROPER authorizations to do what he
CLAIMED to do.


Maybe. But that has no bearing on whether the alleged /T5 operation took
place,
whether logbooks existed, and whether QSLs were exchanged.


It has all the bearing in the world, Jim.


Not at all. Either it happened or it didn't. If it was unauthorized,
yet it happened, it still happened. It just doesn't count for any
awards.

How can you say that a lack of proper authorization to operate DOESN'T
ahve bearing on the operation...?!?!


I'm saying it doesn't have any bearing on whether it happened or not.

There's not a single Amateur Radio award
by any organization that I am aware of that is not predicated on the legitimacy
of the operating credentials of the claimant.

Sure. And to our knowledge nobody has claimed any QSOs with the
alleged operation for any awards.

He can "operate" all he wants to and exchange a ton of QSL cards, but no
license (or authorization or permit or certificate...what ever you want to call
it...) and all that operation is worthless.

Of course. But the *claims* that there was an operation would still be
true.

Remember that all it would take to meet all of these conditions would be one
QSO in a ham band using stateside calls and portable designation.


As long as the legal criteria was met.


Even if they weren't, it would still be an operation. Just not a legit
one.

In Brain's case, it appears as though it wasn't. He was not in
Antarctica...he was allegedly in Somalia.

He won't even provide us with the callsign of ONE station he "worked"
while in Somalia.


Of course not. Same goes for bands/modes/antennas/rigs used. But the lack of
detail doesn't mean the alleged operation didn't happen.


Please tell me you're just playing "Devil's Advocate", Jim...!


I'm simply being accurate.

Folks keep focusing on the wrong things.

What has actually been claimed? Operation from /T5, nothing more. No
mention of modes, bands, rigs, number of QSOs, etc.

Can't you see that if even *one* QSO was made, on *any* ham band, over
*any* distance, it would constitute "operation from /T5"? Even if said
operation was not in agreement with international agreements?

The lack of detail is a different issue completely.


You've GOT to be kidding me.


Not at all.

I can tell you in INTIMATE detail the sation I had set up in my barracks
on Oki in 81...Equipment, antennas, I even still have the log. Although I
don't have my copy of the AMRS authorization, I can give specifics about
who/what/where, callsign, and even have a couple of QSL cards from folks I
worked...

That's you.

Being secretive isn't lying. It's...being secretive. Of course the
lack of detail reduces credibility, but it doesn't make the secretive
person a liar.

He can't even TELL us ONE callsign of anyone he worked...?!?!


Not can't.

Won't.

Big difference.

No proof = Didn't happen.

Not at all.

No proof = Reasonable doubt.


No proof on short notice = reasonable doubt.

No proof after two years = didn't happen.


Not at all, Steve. Objective reality states that if a thing happened,
it happened whether anyone believes it happened or not.

Nothing more or less.


His "nothing more" can't be much less than what it's been, Jim!

Of course.

Don't you realize by now that you won't get answers to your questions?

73 de Jim, N2EY

William June 9th 04 12:40 AM

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...

The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went
freebanding.

w3rv


Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a
competent authority for me to have to produce proof for.

Best of luck.


"William"'s definition of "blowhard": Anyone who questions the legality
or the very existence of his claimed operation from Somalia. Kinda
dangled your participle in the breeze there, "William".

Dave K8MN


Welp, Dave, The World's Greatest DXer, your initial comments were so
far off base that it took "little ole me" to educate you amateur
operations from places without a government.

And all without a single "thank you."

You might as well go back to working out of band Frenchmen for all the
good it did.

Best of Luck.

William June 9th 04 12:51 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:08 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...

The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went
freebanding.

w3rv


Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a
competent authority for me to have to produce proof for.


There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain.


Your first correct statement in about four years.

Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims.


I stand by my claims. I know they're true. It's enough for me.

That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further


"Fight so hard???"

Hi, hi, hi.

It's easy, really. You're no authority.

substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up


Your daily posts substantiate that you're nuts.

in order to be
able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !"


I was one of the first. No need to say, "ME TOO..." Everyone after
Jan 1993 is "me too."

It's your bed, Brain. Comfy?


I'm quite comfortable. Thanks for asking.

Your bed must be tormented.

Make an appointment.

Accept help.

Get rest.

Come back human.

Best of Luck.

William June 9th 04 12:56 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: "Avery Hightower"

Date: 6/7/2004 3:57 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .net

"N2EY" wrote in message
...

No proof = Reasonable doubt.

Nothing more or less.


You just don't get it, do you Jim. On rrap you must either agree with
K4CAP/K4YZ and accede to every whimsical demand of his, or you are a
low-life lying scum sucking weasel. Reasonable doubt is not an option.


What "reasonable doubt"...?!?! Two years of dodging requests for
validation of claims made...?!?!

And what "demands"...?!?! Again...Someone makes claims of having had
experiences that allegedly makes them "knowldegeable" of certain skills or
techniques, yet NO EVIDENCE of having actually done them...

Eh, Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.

Please post your discharge physical to RRAP.

Thanks, B-r-i-a-n

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 01:43 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (N2EY)
Date: 6/8/2004 5:24 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Don't you realize by now that you won't get answers to your questions?


We've been looking for signs of intelligent life in space, haven't found it
so far, but we keep looking.

73

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 01:58 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


yet you
"lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.

Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?


From you, Brain.


Couldn't have. I've never said that.


Uh huh.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


You've got 24 hours to Google that up, or you will forever be branded
a LIAR.


I could wade through Google for days through one manifestation of "lost"
or another of yours, Brain.

How inept.

What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's
quota. Better go easy.


Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion".


No, you did. You've asserted that I "lost" my /T5 logs, or that I
"can't find" them. That is false. Completely false.


Then why can't you provide us with any information from them?

You said you couldn't find them.

Now you say that's not true.

Are you a pathological liar or are you inept?

Now Google up where I said that.


And if I do...?!?! I've "Googled up" other assertions by you and the Lame
One before and you just tried to spin out of those too. What's the use?

So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have

previously
told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or

misplaced.

I have logs. I've always said that I have the logas, and know that
you're not in them. I know exactly where the logs are. I've never
said that my logs were "lost" or that I "can't find" or that I
"misplaced" them.

You have made a false assertion.

You have been challenged to Google up the post where I've said the
things that you say I've said.


You've said you "can't find them".

THEN when pressed on that, no one is IN your logs.

Then you won't tell us ANYONE who was in your logs.

I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting

tied up
in your own mistruths.


Absolutely not. I know exactly what I've said. So Google it up, you
peddler of mistruths.


Nice try on the reversal, Brain...but you've had two years to make good on
your claims.

You've not done it.

Brian Burke is either a liar or grossly inept.

It really is THAT simple.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 02:05 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"William"'s definition of "blowhard": Anyone who questions the legality
or the very existence of his claimed operation from Somalia. Kinda
dangled your participle in the breeze there, "William".

Dave K8MN


Welp, Dave, The World's Greatest DXer, your initial comments were so
far off base that it took "little ole me" to educate you amateur
operations from places without a government.


And so far it's taken every OTHER person (except for Lennie, whose
practical knowledge of such things are ZERO) on RRAP to point out that you were
wrong, Brain.

You've been very resillient to accepting the truth, but in doing so you'd
have to admit you were wrong, and we know THAT would never happen.

And all without a single "thank you."


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your tall
tale SOUND valid?

Brain Burke trying to tell Dave Heil about DXing skills is like The Three
Stooges trying to tell Fred Astaire how to dance.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 02:17 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain.


Your first correct statement in about four years.


I am sure you wish it were true.

Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims.


I stand by my claims. I know they're true. It's enough for me.


Then I guess looking like a fool for assinine assertions fits you, Brain.

But when I think of it....It does!

That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further


"Fight so hard???"


Yep.

Hi, hi, hi.


I am sure you hear LOTS of laughter, Brain.

It's easy, really. You're no authority.


You're right. I'm not.

But if you THOUGHT about it, Brain, you've had over TWO YEARS of
opportunity to squarely splat the raw egg on my face by coming up with just ONE
valid contact you made from Somalia.

Soooooooo....egg's on you, PuppetBoy.

substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up


Your daily posts substantiate that you're nuts.

in order to be
able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !"


I was one of the first. No need to say, "ME TOO..." Everyone after
Jan 1993 is "me too."


Others had some valid documentation of thier operation.

Others proudly point to some recognized memento of thier operation. You
BRAG of it, but so far, nothing to back it up.

It's your bed, Brain. Comfy?


I'm quite comfortable. Thanks for asking.


I guess it's all what you're used to.

Come back human.


Already there.

Now what can we do to get you to acknowledge the lack of truth in your
assertions about your alleged Somalia operation....?!?! Or what can we do to
get you to back up your assertion about unlicensed devices playing a "major
role" in "emergency comms", etc etc etc....?!?!

Steve, K4YZ






Len Over 21 June 9th 04 02:19 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:08 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...

The last thing I'd do is keep logs and send cards if I went
freebanding.

w3rv

Same here. But I don't accept some blowhard(s) on r.r.a.p. as a
competent authority for me to have to produce proof for.


There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain.


Your first correct statement in about four years.


Just from the randomness of nature he has to produce ONE
correct thing. :-)

Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims.


I stand by my claims. I know they're true. It's enough for me.


No matter what the subject or who says it, if the gunnery nurse
don't like it, it be a "lie." :-)

He ought to take up golf. Golf has a lot of "lie" on the ball.

That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further


"Fight so hard???"

Hi, hi, hi.

It's easy, really. You're no authority.


Replies to nursie "just seem to write themselves!" :-)

substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up


Your daily posts substantiate that you're nuts.


Fairly classic behavior pattern it are, too. Jr. College Psych 101
typical.

in order to be
able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !"


I was one of the first. No need to say, "ME TOO..." Everyone after
Jan 1993 is "me too."


Problem is, nursie wasn't among the "first." That must hurt.

Well, he does have those "hostile actions" on his record.

Trouble is, the record is broken and it's archived on Fantasy
Island. [our tax dollars at work...]

It's your bed, Brain. Comfy?


I'm quite comfortable. Thanks for asking.

Your bed must be tormented.


Especially if J.Lo is at the door "begging him to pleasure her."

...and he doesn't open the door. :-)

LHA / WMD

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 02:20 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:56 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:



Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.


I have no evidence of the validity of your assertions of operation from
Somalia.

Please post your discharge physical to RRAP.


Please post something that validates your assertions of Somalia opertion
or use of unlicensed communications devices being a "major role" to RRAP.

Thanks, B-r-i-a-n


You're welcome, B-r-a-i-n.

Steve, K4YZ








Len Over 21 June 9th 04 04:23 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


There's no "authority" here to "produce proof" for, Brain.


Your first correct statement in about four years.


I am sure you wish it were true.

Only your own reputation. YOU made the claims.


I stand by my claims. I know they're true. It's enough for me.


Then I guess looking like a fool for assinine assertions fits you,
Brain.

But when I think of it....It does!

That you fight so hard to keep from validating them only further


"Fight so hard???"


Yep.

Hi, hi, hi.


I am sure you hear LOTS of laughter, Brain.


It's all around the gunnery nurse...and at him. Tsk, tsk.

It's easy, really. You're no authority.


You're right. I'm not.


Wow! Another admission of real truth!

Eventually, randomness will come up with something true.

But if you THOUGHT about it, Brain, you've had over TWO YEARS of
opportunity to squarely splat the raw egg on my face by coming up with just
ONE valid contact you made from Somalia.


Poor nursie. No THINK.

"MARS is amateur radio?" DoD doesn't think so.

Gunnery nurse thinks she is Dill Insructor again advising "maggots."

Soooooooo....egg's on you, PuppetBoy.


More "meaningful discussion" from the gunnery nurse.

substantiates my suspicisions that you made the whole thing up


Your daily posts substantiate that you're nuts.

in order to be
able to say "ME TOO...ME TOO! ! !"


I was one of the first. No need to say, "ME TOO..." Everyone after
Jan 1993 is "me too."


Others had some valid documentation of thier operation.


Of course, especially those who claim "hostile actions." :-)

Others proudly point to some recognized memento of thier operation. You
BRAG of it, but so far, nothing to back it up.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Still exaggerating all the "meaningful discussion"
again?

You never learn. Pity that. A Dill Inspector who can't tell one dill
from another. A fine pickle you got yourself into.

It's your bed, Brain. Comfy?


I'm quite comfortable. Thanks for asking.


I guess it's all what you're used to.


Is that all you can muster for a "comeback?" :-)

Come back human.


Already there.


That's only in surface appearance. Like the wax figures in Madam
Tussaud's was museum.

Now what can we do to get you to acknowledge the lack of truth in your
assertions about your alleged Somalia operation....?!?! Or what can we do to
get you to back up your assertion about unlicensed devices playing a "major
role" in "emergency comms", etc etc etc....?!?!


Oooooo...trotting out the old "lack of truth" again?

Where, when those "hostile actions" you claimed, big hero?

Where was the HRO store again when you visited it "with friends?"

What "emergency comms" has the gunnery nurse done in amateur
radio? When? [sorry, lots and lots of times doesn't count]

Gunnery nurse wasn't in Somalia. Not enough "hostile action"
there for the big hero?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, TSK!

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 June 9th 04 04:23 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"William"'s definition of "blowhard": Anyone who questions the legality
or the very existence of his claimed operation from Somalia. Kinda
dangled your participle in the breeze there, "William".

Dave K8MN


Welp, Dave, The World's Greatest DXer, your initial comments were so
far off base that it took "little ole me" to educate you amateur
operations from places without a government.


And so far it's taken every OTHER person (except for Lennie, whose
practical knowledge of such things are ZERO) on RRAP to point out that you
were wrong, Brain.


Not so. The only one agreeing with the gunnery nurse is the Dill
Instructor. [two different personalities in same corpus]

You've been very resillient to accepting the truth, but in doing so you'd
have to admit you were wrong, and we know THAT would never happen.


Ah! It's Mirror Time again!

Let's see..."hostile actions"...invents radio services...won't accept
documentary proof in terms of e-mailed scans...doesn't know the
language he cusses others out in...wrong data entries on government
forms...all those blunders besides typos.

And all without a single "thank you."


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your tall
tale SOUND valid?


Brian's remarks were FAR more plausible than the whiny, angry,
wants-to-fight-all-the-time gunnery nurse ever wrote.

Everyone that doesn't agree with the gunnery nurse is described
by her as a "liar" and gets cussed at in a language she doesn't
know. That's a mental case syndrome if there ever was one.

Brain Burke trying to tell Dave Heil about DXing skills is like The
Three Stooges trying to tell Fred Astaire how to dance.


Too bad there's NO "Brain Burke" here.

Sucking up to your SS commander, gunnery nurse?

How do you clean his monocle? [don't answer, none really wants
to know...]

You trying to tell the experienced in HF communications "how it is
done" for 24/7 ops is a very bad silent comedy when the projector
has its lamp burned out.

So, big fella, how was Somalia when you were there supervising
amateur radio and checking everyone's logs? Were the logs
properly placed in the latrines? See any "hostile action" there?
Or were you as openly hostile there are you are in here?

[I just love these "meaningful discussions" nursie does...]

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 June 9th 04 04:23 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


yet you
"lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.

Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?

From you, Brain.


Couldn't have. I've never said that.


Uh huh.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


You've got 24 hours to Google that up, or you will forever be branded
a LIAR.


I could wade through Google for days through one manifestation of "lost"
or another of yours, Brain.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...still with the "meaningful discussion" thing, nursie?

No real problem. Everyone knows that any disagreement with your
holiness will result in personal attacks and charges of "lying."

Scanned documentation sent you in e-mail is ignored and you continue
to call those who send it for "liars."

Government documents, such as DoD Directive 4650.2 (effective 21
Nov 03) are disregarded so that you can make weird, wired statements
of "truth" which are quite wrong.

You get totally ****ed when someone has some REAL experience
and demand all kinds of "proof" which you then ignore and proceed
to attack the person very personally (and using cuss words from
languages you don't know...in weird belief that "makes it okay").

How inept.

What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's
quota. Better go easy.

Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion".


No, you did. You've asserted that I "lost" my /T5 logs, or that I
"can't find" them. That is false. Completely false.


Then why can't you provide us with any information from them?


Who the hell do you think you are, the Attorney General?

You aren't. You HAVE made an ash of yourself without much croft.

You said you couldn't find them.

Now you say that's not true.

Are you a pathological liar or are you inept?


Poor nursie. Mind gone in a rage of hatred of certain others.

Never used "pathology" in the correct sense, then calls those
he hates for "liars." Sad case.

Now Google up where I said that.


And if I do...?!?! I've "Googled up" other assertions by you and the

Lame
One before and you just tried to spin out of those too. What's the use?


More "meaningful discussion" which consists of calling others names
and trying to avenge past losing arguments in this newsgroup.

Poor baby.

So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have

previously
told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or

misplaced.

I have logs. I've always said that I have the logas, and know that
you're not in them. I know exactly where the logs are. I've never
said that my logs were "lost" or that I "can't find" or that I
"misplaced" them.

You have made a false assertion.

You have been challenged to Google up the post where I've said the
things that you say I've said.


You've said you "can't find them".

THEN when pressed on that, no one is IN your logs.

Then you won't tell us ANYONE who was in your logs.


Gunnery nurse has laid lots of logs out in this newsgroup.

Problem is, those don't have any writing on them and don't
belong in here...yet they keep coming.

The sanitary detail ought to get to work in here.


I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting

tied up
in your own mistruths.


Absolutely not. I know exactly what I've said. So Google it up, you
peddler of mistruths.


Nice try on the reversal, Brain...but you've had two years to make good
on your claims.

You've not done it.

Brian Burke is either a liar or grossly inept.

It really is THAT simple.


Gunnery nurse has totally flipped out.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie needs mental therapy for all that hatred and
desire for revenge burning deep. Straightjacket and rubber room
is a good start, followed by a real MD prescribing an appropriate
medication to calm the raving beastie within.

It's amazing how FAR from the original topic some of these threads
achieve once the gunnery nurses are let loose to roam and cuss
and call everyone "liars!"

Not quite what I'd call a good feeling for getting a ham license.

LHA / WMD


Len Over 21 June 9th 04 04:23 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(N2EY)
Date: 6/8/2004 5:24 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Don't you realize by now that you won't get answers to your questions?


We've been looking for signs of intelligent life in space, haven't found

it
so far, but we keep looking.


Who are you...Captain Video? Buck Rogers?

So far you've not made any "meaningful discussion" let alone
"intelligence" in here.

How many SETI data units have you processed?

"Countless" units?

Let's all hear it for Amateur Astronaut Captain Buck Video!

LHA / WMD



William June 10th 04 03:45 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
.com...
(William) wrote in message

. com...
Dave Heil wrote in message

...
William wrote:

(N2EY) wrote in message
. com...
TeleTech wrote in message

...


Do people put the /W4 on their QSL cards, etc?
Is this a big deal these days?

No and no.


Maybe, maybe not. Depends if the portable designation makes you a
different "country." If you were portable KL7 or KH6 or even KP4,

I'd
definitely put that on my card. Even if it weren't antoher country,
I'd still put it on my card.

bb

Yeah, sort of like T5/N0IMD. Just put it on a card.

Dave K8MN

I did. But you're not in that log book so you don't get one. Sorry.

Who, exactly, did ever get one?


Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either.


Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain.

He didn't ask "..did I?"

He asked "..who did?"

Nice try.

Steve, K4YZ


Sorry Steve, you don't get one either. You've got to get on the air
once in a while to snag the good ones. As it is, you're NIL.

Best of Luck.

William June 10th 04 03:52 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message
e.com...
(William) wrote in message

. com...
Dave Heil wrote in message

...
William wrote:

(N2EY) wrote in message
. com...
TeleTech wrote in message

...


Do people put the /W4 on their QSL cards, etc?
Is this a big deal these days?

No and no.


Maybe, maybe not. Depends if the portable designation makes you a
different "country." If you were portable KL7 or KH6 or even KP4,

I'd
definitely put that on my card. Even if it weren't antoher country,
I'd still put it on my card.

bb

Yeah, sort of like T5/N0IMD. Just put it on a card.

Dave K8MN

I did. But you're not in that log book so you don't get one. Sorry.

Who, exactly, did ever get one?

Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either.


Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain.


The gunnery nurse put on his Military Interlocutor brassard?

[arm band says "MI" but trust me, folks, the second letter
doesn't stand for "intelligence."]

He didn't ask "..did I?"

He asked "..who did?"


Kellie wrote: "Who, exactly, did ever get one?"

That's exact. :-)

Nice try.


Temper fry.

LHA / WMD



[these things just seem to write themselves...:-) ]



You should write an auto-reply script.

Start with a standard statement such as, "That's not true," which is
invariably correct whenever referring to anything Steve says. Then
write a search script to find and quote the misquoted part, and then
close it with "Best of Luck" or "Temper Fry" or "Hi, hi."

William June 10th 04 03:59 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"William"'s definition of "blowhard": Anyone who questions the legality
or the very existence of his claimed operation from Somalia. Kinda
dangled your participle in the breeze there, "William".

Dave K8MN


Welp, Dave, The World's Greatest DXer, your initial comments were so
far off base that it took "little ole me" to educate you amateur
operations from places without a government.


And so far it's taken every OTHER person (except for Lennie, whose
practical knowledge of such things are ZERO) on RRAP to point out that you were
wrong, Brain.


Steve, you were wrong. Still are.

You've been very resillient to accepting the truth, but in doing so you'd
have to admit you were wrong, and we know THAT would never happen.

And all without a single "thank you."


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your tall
tale SOUND valid?


A military commander has the authority to approve amateur operations
in a country where there is no other legal authority.

Eat it.

Brain Burke trying to tell Dave Heil about DXing skills is like The Three
Stooges trying to tell Fred Astaire how to dance.


But the Three Stooges never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters.
David Heil did and he knows it.

William June 10th 04 04:06 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:56 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.


I have no evidence of the validity of your assertions of operation from
Somalia.


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.

Please post your discharge physical to RRAP.


Please post something that validates your assertions of Somalia opertion
or use of unlicensed communications devices being a "major role" to RRAP.


Please post legal credentials for making such a request?

Just because a stalker wants to look in my windows doesn't mean I have to open them.

Thanks, B-r-i-a-n


You're welcome, B-r-a-i-n.

Steve, K4YZ


bb

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 10th 04 04:54 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either.


Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain.

He didn't ask "..did I?"

He asked "..who did?"

Nice try.


Sorry Steve, you don't get one either. You've got to get on the air
once in a while to snag the good ones. As it is, you're NIL.


Sorry, Brain. I already have DXCC. You're welcome to peruse ARRL
archives to determine that for yourself. As for the rest, not all endeavours
in Amateur Radio are "DXing"...

I am "on the air" almost daily.

And you STILL haven't answered the question.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ







Steve Robeson K4CAP June 10th 04 04:57 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your tall
tale SOUND valid?


A military commander has the authority to approve amateur operations
in a country where there is no other legal authority.


Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.

The United Nations was the governing authority.

Eat it.


Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 10th 04 05:02 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 10:06 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:56 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.


I have no evidence of the validity of your assertions of operation

from
Somalia.


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.


I ahve no evisence that you're not a child molester.

Please post your discharge physical to RRAP.


Please post something that validates your assertions of Somalia

opertion
or use of unlicensed communications devices being a "major role" to RRAP.


Please post legal credentials for making such a request?


None are needed.

I keep asking you to do so for your own good. You continue to make
yourself look like a liar and tall-tale-teller with your assertions of
accomplishment, yet without any evidence that what you say is true.

That you continue to run and hide makes it even worse.

Just because a stalker wants to look in my windows doesn't mean I have to
open them.


No one's stalking you, Brain. You littered the NG with your mistruths
voluntarily.

I just keep trying to get you to own up to your lying and get the facts
out in the open.

Steve, K4YZ






William June 10th 04 12:40 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/9/2004 10:06 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:56 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.

I have no evidence of the validity of your assertions of operation

from
Somalia.


Steve, I have no evidence that you're sane.


I ahve no evisence that you're not a child molester.


Doesn't matter. I've made no claims to be a child molester, or not.

Yet you have made claims to sanity, and I see no evidence of it.

If you behave yourself and quit calling everyone that you disagree
with a liar, at least you can hide your problem.

William June 10th 04 01:25 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your tall
tale SOUND valid?


A military commander has the authority to approve amateur operations
in a country where there is no other legal authority.


Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.


Nope. See what happens when you weren't there but you start making assumptions?

The United Nations was the governing authority.


I've never been chopped to the UN.

Eat it.


Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.


That is rich coming from a 50 year old guy who throws tantrums every day.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ


Infinitely better than being you.

William June 10th 04 01:27 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


yet you
"lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.

Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?

From you, Brain.


Couldn't have. I've never said that.


Uh huh.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


You've got 24 hours to Google that up, or you will forever be branded
a LIAR.


I could wade through Google for days through one manifestation of "lost"
or another of yours, Brain.


Then it should have been really easy for you.

However, due to your own laziness, you will now be referred to as Liar Steve.

Len Over 21 June 11th 04 02:06 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your

tall
tale SOUND valid?


A military commander has the authority to approve amateur operations
in a country where there is no other legal authority.


Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.

The United Nations was the governing authority.


You are very confused again on authorities.

Sounds like the ex-murine had to leave the corpse because he not
know Chain of Command or any military history, much less
understand directives, regulations, or even the Order of the Day.

Eat it.


Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.

Sucks to be you, Brain.


Now THERE's the "really profound, mature response" used many,
many times by nursie in here...almost a signature.

[we could go to really far adventures with nursie's use of the word
"suck" so much, but that's another story entirely (BTASE)]

Eat DoD Directive 4650.2, nursie.

Digest it. Regurgitate it and eat it again if you can't digest it.

Or call on the UN Security Council to pass a Resolution saying
"MARS is amateur radio" if you can't stomach correction.

[too bad we can't babble on ham radio policy in here for all the
"hostile actions" mounted by nursie and herr robust]

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 June 11th 04 02:06 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

[these things just seem to write themselves...:-) ]


You should write an auto-reply script.

Start with a standard statement such as, "That's not true," which is
invariably correct whenever referring to anything Steve says. Then
write a search script to find and quote the misquoted part, and then
close it with "Best of Luck" or "Temper Fry" or "Hi, hi."


Sounds like a plan!

I once tried something like that with Herr Robust's arrogant
ordering in here but the script editor program just froze with
an error message box appearing stating that the "program was
in comedy mode, must wait for Saturday Night to make a Live
restart." That was on a Sunday afternoon and the wait was too
long.

If it was a movie script instead of a DOS script it might sell.
Hollywood producers buy all kinds of fiction, even SF that
isn't scientific or logical. Nursie sure isn't logical, only rock-
bound, rock-anchored Twilight Zone material. Too bad Rod
Serling is long departed..."At the signpost up ahead, MARS
is amateur radio!" [has a catchy ring to it, I think...:-) ]

Hi hi and a J.Lo begging...

LHA / WMD



William June 11th 04 06:14 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit contact
there.

Funny.

Nope. True.

You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location,

Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share
KH0.

yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.

Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?


From you, Brain.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


Looks like nursie is trying to dump a log in here once more...


Hope he wipes afterwards. Bad etiquette to dump and not wipe. But
what can you 'spect from Liar Steve.

How inept.

What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's
quota. Better go easy.


Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion".


Go back and sit down, you aren't finished...


Liar Steve wants a passing grade. Doesn't look likely.

So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have previously
told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or misplaced.


Poor nursie, still trying to make a mountain out of a little pile of
dust (that fell out of his overloaded imagination).

I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting tied
up in your own mistruths.


"Seven hostile actions."

"MARS is amateur radio."


No, no, no. "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi, hi!

The medical discharge that turned "honorable" and so marked on
his DD-214.


Berry berry spetchal.

Knows exactly where the Burbank, CA, HRO store is because
he "shopped there with some friends" yet he can't recall anything
of the surroundings before the store moved there.


Ooooh! How does that happen?

Knows all about Naval Air Development Center because he was
assigned there (long after NADC was moved) which was really
Warminster NAS (across the road).


Maybe he's psychotic and has tarot cards and all that stuff.

Has tutored "countless" newbies and "broken bread" with
more (countless?) visiting hams. [one has to wonder why he
has never been caught after trashing all those bakeries...]


Most bakers are patriotic and don't want a hobo ex-marine to do time.

Thinks all military radios are classified and therefore can't talk
about them...even though they've not been so for decades.


Authenticate!

That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years.
He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never
ever makes any "untruths." :-)


Did a search on MANBLA. Not exactly my cup of tea. He's fairly
disgusting.

Aren't all these "meaningful discussions" fun? :-)

LHA / WMD


bb

William June 11th 04 11:50 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Sorry, Kellie, but you're not in there either.

Now that doesn't answer the question he asked, Brain.

He didn't ask "..did I?"

He asked "..who did?"

Nice try.


Sorry Steve, you don't get one either. You've got to get on the air
once in a while to snag the good ones. As it is, you're NIL.


Sorry, Brain. I already have DXCC. You're welcome to peruse ARRL
archives to determine that for yourself. As for the rest, not all endeavours
in Amateur Radio are "DXing"...


How true! Some of them are MARS. Hi, hi.

I am "on the air" almost daily.


You're still not in my log.

Len Over 21 June 11th 04 09:27 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 8:15 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/5/2004 9:45 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I could send you another N0IMD/KH2 card, though. You're a legit

contact
there.

Funny.

Nope. True.

You kept logs from Guam, a semi-rare but hardly unique location,

Guam IS unique. All of the rest of the Marianas Islands have to share
KH0.

yet you "lost" your logs from a once-in-a-lifetime locale.

Where did you get THAT piece of misinformation?

From you, Brain.

On more than one occassion you've insisted that you "can't find" your
"logs".

THAT says "lost".


Looks like nursie is trying to dump a log in here once more...


Hope he wipes afterwards. Bad etiquette to dump and not wipe. But
what can you 'spect from Liar Steve.


Not much to expect except a lot of snit... :-)


How inept.

What a stupid assertion. I think you've already used up this month's
quota. Better go easy.

Hey Brainy...YOU made the "stupid assertion".


Go back and sit down, you aren't finished...


Liar Steve wants a passing grade. Doesn't look likely.


Nursie no understand this are a "no passing zone." :-)

[he must be driven man, certainly not the driver...]


So NOW you're insinuating that you HAVE the logs that you have

previously
told us you either don't have, can't find or were otherwise lost or

misplaced.

Poor nursie, still trying to make a mountain out of a little pile of
dust (that fell out of his overloaded imagination).

I think YOU are the one who had better "go easy". You are getting

tied
up in your own mistruths.


"Seven hostile actions."

"MARS is amateur radio."


No, no, no. "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi, hi!


[I'm still working on "J.Lo at his door begging him to pleasure her..."]

The medical discharge that turned "honorable" and so marked on
his DD-214.


Berry berry spetchal.


DoD revised their beaurocracy and procedures just to fit the veteran
of all those "hostile actions!"

Knows exactly where the Burbank, CA, HRO store is because
he "shopped there with some friends" yet he can't recall anything
of the surroundings before the store moved there.


Ooooh! How does that happen?


The "Magic" of r.r.a.p. Anything can happen in here...and often
does...

Knows all about Naval Air Development Center because he was
assigned there (long after NADC was moved) which was really
Warminster NAS (across the road).


Maybe he's psychotic and has tarot cards and all that stuff.


...or just nuts...or eaten too much "tarot take" in the mess.

Has tutored "countless" newbies and "broken bread" with
more (countless?) visiting hams. [one has to wonder why he
has never been caught after trashing all those bakeries...]


Most bakers are patriotic and don't want a hobo ex-marine to do time.


Yeah, but nursie "broke bread" with lots of visiting foreign hams
according to messages in here... hi hi hi.

Thinks all military radios are classified and therefore can't talk
about them...even though they've not been so for decades.


Authenticate!


Roger that and a big FM 24-24.

That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years.
He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never
ever makes any "untruths." :-)


Did a search on MANBLA. Not exactly my cup of tea. He's fairly
disgusting.


No problem. If nursie no like you, you be da "odd man out" with
all the allegations of homosexuality he's implied before.

Aren't all these "meaningful discussions" fun? :-)

LHA / WMD


They seem to "write themselves" as one herr robust put it... :-)

LHA / WMD

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 12th 04 08:06 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 6:40 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


If you behave yourself and quit calling everyone that you disagree
with a liar, at least you can hide your problem.


My only "problem", Brain, is not tolerating persons who have been proven
to be liars.

Two names come to immediate mind.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 12th 04 08:09 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 7:25 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.


Nope. See what happens when you weren't there but you start making
assumptions?


No assumption.

The Somalia mission was a United Nations effort.

The United Nations was the governing authority.


I've never been chopped to the UN.


You were if you were there for Restore Hope.

Eat it.


Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a

desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.


That is rich coming from a 50 year old guy who throws tantrums every day.


Who's 50?

Sucks to be you, Brain.


Infinitely better than being you.


How would you know? You can't even get your own stories straight.

STILL sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ








Steve Robeson K4CAP June 12th 04 08:11 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 7:27 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I could wade through Google for days through one manifestation of

"lost"
or another of yours, Brain.


Then it should have been really easy for you.

However, due to your own laziness, you will now be referred to as Liar Steve.


OK...

One problem. It wouldn't be true.

Unfortunately, however, you've already established a two year long history
of not telling the truth.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 12th 04 08:17 AM

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/11/2004 5:50 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I am "on the air" almost daily.


You're still not in my log.


And highly unlikely that I ever WILL be, Brain.

In most cases when I am on HF, it would take you a moderate amount of
skill or dedicated software to communicate with me.

Even if you had the software, you'd still have to be able to know what to
listen to. I don't think you have either.

Steve, K4YZ






William June 13th 04 12:16 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From:
(William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your

tall
tale SOUND valid?

A military commander has the authority to approve amateur operations
in a country where there is no other legal authority.


Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.

The United Nations was the governing authority.


You are very confused again on authorities.


They put him on a "need to know" basis. All Steve needed to know was
that everyone else outranked him. Everything was much simpler that
way.

Sounds like the ex-murine had to leave the corpse because he not
know Chain of Command or any military history, much less
understand directives, regulations, or even the Order of the Day.


He expert bay orderly.

Eat it.


Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.

Sucks to be you, Brain.


Now THERE's the "really profound, mature response" used many,
many times by nursie in here...almost a signature.

[we could go to really far adventures with nursie's use of the word
"suck" so much, but that's another story entirely (BTASE)]

Eat DoD Directive 4650.2, nursie.

Digest it. Regurgitate it and eat it again if you can't digest it.

Or call on the UN Security Council to pass a Resolution saying
"MARS is amateur radio" if you can't stomach correction.


They would convene a committee of ITU and Security Council members.
There would be lots of meetings, lots of trips to Paris and Zurich,
lots of pizza and beer. In the end they would ask, "What idiot
suggested that MARS and Amateur Radio are the same thing or even could
become the same thing?"

[too bad we can't babble on ham radio policy in here for all the
"hostile actions" mounted by nursie and herr robust]

LHA / WMD



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