Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/12/2004 6:32 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years.
He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never
ever makes any "untruths." :-)

Did a search on MANBLA. Not exactly my cup of tea. He's fairly
disgusting.

No problem. If nursie no like you, you be da "odd man out" with
all the allegations of homosexuality he's implied before.

It's his insinuation that I might be molesting cub scouts that I
resent. He's a sick man.

I didn't insinuate you're molesting scouts, Brain.

I said it's apparent you prefer the company of little boys to adults.
That is true. When asked about several Amateur Radio related activities, you
are always predisposed.

Welp, I'm going to go call CQ on a MARS freq. Might as well use my
ham call too, since I don't have a MARS call anymore. Shouldn't make
any difference ayway. After all, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio." Hi, hi.

And I am sure you'll get an appropriate QSL card for the effort, Brain.

Maybe you'll show us THAT QSL card...You don't seem to ahve any others to
show off....

Maybe you'll work Lennie and his Part 15 station that he's going to put on
20 meters.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/12/2004 6:32 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years.
He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never
ever makes any "untruths." :-)

Did a search on MANBLA. Not exactly my cup of tea. He's fairly
disgusting.

No problem. If nursie no like you, you be da "odd man out" with
all the allegations of homosexuality he's implied before.

It's his insinuation that I might be molesting cub scouts that I
resent. He's a sick man.

I didn't insinuate you're molesting scouts, Brain.

I said it's apparent you prefer the company of little boys to adults.

Oh, my, the nursie alternate reality again...

Nursie never insinuates. Yet nursie insinuates.

That is true. When asked about several Amateur Radio related activities, you
are always predisposed.

Nursie should be prescribed.

By a real MD.

Welp, I'm going to go call CQ on a MARS freq. Might as well use my
ham call too, since I don't have a MARS call anymore. Shouldn't make
any difference ayway. After all, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio." Hi, hi.

And I am sure you'll get an appropriate QSL card for the effort, Brain.

Maybe you'll show us THAT QSL card...You don't seem to ahve any others
to show off....

Maybe you'll work Lennie and his Part 15 station that he's going to put
on 20 meters.

We haven't heard of THAT fantasy reality. Please tell more.

I need to know to be sure I have all the parts I'm going to build this
station with... :-)

Get help, nursie.

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

That's just a partial list of nursie's claims made in five years.
He has yet to make good on all that because nursie never
ever makes any "untruths." :-)

Did a search on MANBLA. Not exactly my cup of tea. He's fairly
disgusting.

No problem. If nursie no like you, you be da "odd man out" with
all the allegations of homosexuality he's implied before.

It's his insinuation that I might be molesting cub scouts that I
resent. He's a sick man.

True, but he is an Extra and therefore can say anything he
wants in full protection of the something-or-other.

If nursie wants to call you a NAMBLA member, then you ARE
one and that's okay. In his fantasy reality. Anyone speaking
against that is a "documented pathological liar." :-(

Nursie "never lies." Not in his fantasy reality.

Tsk, tsk.

Welp, I'm going to go call CQ on a MARS freq. Might as well use my
ham call too, since I don't have a MARS call anymore. Shouldn't make
any difference ayway. After all, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio." Hi, hi.

OK. :-)

LHA / WMD

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/11/2004 5:50 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I am "on the air" almost daily.

You're still not in my log.

And highly unlikely that I ever WILL be, Brain.

Have you considered stringing up an antenna longer than six inches?

In most cases when I am on HF, it would take you a moderate amount of
skill or dedicated software to communicate with me.

"Dedicated" to what? :-)

Are you on those MARS frequencies just outside the hum bands?

Even if you had the software, you'd still have to be able to know what to
listen to. I don't think you have either.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. "Meaningful discussion." :-)

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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For what? Giving him bogus information? For trying to make your
tall
tale SOUND valid?

A military commander has the authority to approve amateur operations
in a country where there is no other legal authority.

Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.

The United Nations was the governing authority.

You are very confused again on authorities.

They put him on a "need to know" basis. All Steve needed to know was
that everyone else outranked him. Everything was much simpler that
way.

His blackhawk was down. [u/s, sitting on the pad...]

Sounds like the ex-murine had to leave the corpse because he not
know Chain of Command or any military history, much less
understand directives, regulations, or even the Order of the Day.

He expert bay orderly.

:-)

Eat it.

Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a
desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Now THERE's the "really profound, mature response" used many,
many times by nursie in here...almost a signature.

[we could go to really far adventures with nursie's use of the word
"suck" so much, but that's another story entirely (BTASE)]

Eat DoD Directive 4650.2, nursie.

Digest it. Regurgitate it and eat it again if you can't digest it.

Or call on the UN Security Council to pass a Resolution saying
"MARS is amateur radio" if you can't stomach correction.

They would convene a committee of ITU and Security Council members.
There would be lots of meetings, lots of trips to Paris and Zurich,
lots of pizza and beer. In the end they would ask, "What idiot
suggested that MARS and Amateur Radio are the same thing or even could
become the same thing?"

Wouldn't matter. If nursie thunk something up, however incorrect,
it be "right" and anyone saying otherwise is a "liar." :-)


[too bad we can't babble on ham radio policy in here for all the
"hostile actions" mounted by nursie and herr robust]

Rev. Jim checked in with a hellfire-and-brimstone denunciation of
godless souls who don't Believe in morse code, etc., so I gues it
is back to the infamous Gang of Four, risen like the Feenix out of
the ashes...

[if you can have a "fenetic alfabet," I have the "Feenix" in honor of
Hashafisti Scratchi...:-) ]

LHA / WMD

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 7:27 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I could wade through Google for days through one manifestation of
"lost"
or another of yours, Brain.

Then it should have been really easy for you.

However, due to your own laziness, you will now be referred to as Liar
Steve.

OK...

One problem. It wouldn't be true.

Not in your personal reality inside your head.

To the rest of us, all living in the real reality, Brian is right.

Unfortunately, however, you've already established a two year long
history
of not telling the truth.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...there goes the "meaningful discussion" thing again.

Must be that "Amateur Extra double standard" of messaging - they
can say anything with any words, but all others must be polite,
respectful, and obediant to their wishes. :-)

LHA / WMD

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 7:25 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Your "military commander" was under United Nations auspices.

Nope. See what happens when you weren't there but you start making
assumptions?

No assumption.

The Somalia mission was a United Nations effort.

Way to go, Chief of Staff! [the TN STATE Guard have 4-star ranks?]

The United Nations was the governing authority.

I've never been chopped to the UN.

You were if you were there for Restore Hope.

There sure isn't any "hope" around here with nursie on the loose...

Eat it.

Now there's a really profound, mature response. Sounds like a
desperate
last-ditch effort to be obnoxious where other options have failed.

That is rich coming from a 50 year old guy who throws tantrums every day.

Who's 50?

It's coming up FAST, nursie. Hair falling out, cookie duster turning
grey, no longer trim in the flight suits. Have you gotten new teeth
yet?

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Infinitely better than being you.

How would you know? You can't even get your own stories straight.

STILL sucks to be you, Brain.

Poor baby. Not the "meaningful discussions" he wants (another name
for agreeing with everything nursie says or be called "liar").

Now, there could be some actual discussion of "call area etiquette,"
but nursie has to turn every subject into a battleground for his
personal hatreds. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Roger that...

LHA / WMD

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 6:40 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

If you behave yourself and quit calling everyone that you disagree
with a liar, at least you can hide your problem.

My only "problem", Brain, is not tolerating persons who have been proven
to be liars.

You hate yourself in the morning. And at night. And during the day.

Two names come to immediate mind.

Should be three. Steven, James, and Robeson. :-)

And those unnamed other personalities: Nursie, the Dill Sergeant,
the Air Ace of the CAP, Dr. Killgore, etc., etc.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. So much intolerance there!

Check around, maybe you can get an industrial-strength mass
shipment of tranquilizers at bargain prices...

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 6:40 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

If you behave yourself and quit calling everyone that you disagree
with a liar, at least you can hide your problem.

My only "problem", Brain, is not tolerating persons who have been
proven
to be liars.

You hate yourself in the morning. And at night. And during the day.

Two names come to immediate mind.

Should be three. Steven, James, and Robeson. :-)

And those unnamed other personalities: Nursie, the Dill Sergeant,
the Air Ace of the CAP, Dr. Killgore, etc., etc.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. So much intolerance there!

Check around, maybe you can get an industrial-strength mass
shipment of tranquilizers at bargain prices...

LHA / WMD

The idiot said my T5 logs were lost. They've been in storage since my
move to Ohio. 5 minutes on Google would have shown him that. But he
refused to look it up and continued to spread falsehoods.

...and he will continue to do all that spreading. :-)

Nursie thinks it is fine and dandy for him to say anything he wants
but others can't talk back to him...those others are "liars" and
"putzes." And Rev. Jim is on his hellfire/brimstone bicycle, busy
pedalling as fast as he can without getting tripped every foot of
the way on a nursie nasty. :-)

I agree with the list of three names above.

There's a far richer panopoly of Yiddish phrases which could be
used but those are good only for those who understand that
curious hybrid language...and none of the three names would fit
such profiling. :-)

We now return everybody to the personal attack modes of the
PCTAs hell-bent on smiting the unbeliever NCTA. Morse
Evangelism rules! :-)

LHA / WMD

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/13/2004 9:52 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

The idiot said my T5 logs were lost.

No, I said YOU said your....

Oh...wait...

That STILL works!...Never mind..carry on!

They've been in storage since my
move to Ohio. 5 minutes on Google would have shown him that. But he
refused to look it up and continued to spread falsehoods.

Then why don't YOU show us, Brain?

Do you REALLY want me to spend the time, come up with one of the posts
where you feigned having "lost" them, only to ONCE AGAIN prove that you are not
trustworthy?

I agree with the list of three names above.

I am sure you do.

You THINK it detracts from you.

It doesn't.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: (William)
Date: 6/13/2004 9:52 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

The idiot said my T5 logs were lost.

No, I said YOU said your....

Oh...wait...

That STILL works!...Never mind..carry on!

What "works?" Nursie working again?

They've been in storage since my
move to Ohio. 5 minutes on Google would have shown him that. But he
refused to look it up and continued to spread falsehoods.

Then why don't YOU show us, Brain?

Do you REALLY want me to spend the time, come up with one of the posts
where you feigned having "lost" them, only to ONCE AGAIN prove that you are
not trustworthy?

Poor nursie. Suffers from all that time and trouble on looking up
posts. Valuable time that could be spent doing productive work
like ethnic cleansing of this newsgroup of what he calls
"undesireable elements" (those he cannot cow into submission
to his wishes). :-)

Nursie can't be "shown" anything contradictory to his original
statements. Never mind that at least four publicly-accessible
documents on the Military Affiliate Radio System exist, nursie
said "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio!" :-)

I agree with the list of three names above.

I am sure you do.

You THINK it detracts from you.

It doesn't.

True, it detracts from the "three names:" Steven, James, and
Robeson. :-)

Well, so far, there's been very little amateur radio policy brought
up by nursie. It's all been about nursie and her, excuse me, his
mighty rep as a "meaningful discourser." :-)

LHA / WMD

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Never quite understood it, but it used to be that a callsign belonged to
the "station" and
not the operator, or something like that.

Yep. That derives from the fact that in most other radio services, the station
and the operator are/were completely independent licenses.

For example, consider maritime radio. A typical ship station has aseveral
operators, but the ship's callsign stays with the ship. The operators, OTOH,
change with the watch and from voyage to voyage. Same for broadcasting and many
other services.

Amateur radio is almost unique in that it is a licensed service where, in the
vast majority of cases, the station owner, engineer, operator and license
holder are all the same person.

Once it happened many years
ago that two
brothers got licenses but the FCC gave out only one callsign, as they
used the same
"station".

That must have been before WW2. Maybe even before the FCC, because there have
long been OM/XYL and other ham family setups where everyone had their own
callsign even though there was only one station.

The FCC recently decided to change that theory to one that
more closely
matches the way hams think of their callsigns. That a ham "owns" a
callsign and uses
it on whatever ham equipment he happens to be using at the moment. If I
borrow your
ham shack, I would still use my callsign. Once I'm satisfied that your
equipment works
correctly. "Looks like a kenwood TS440SAT, receives like one, and seems
to transmit
like it should."

There was a time when using your callsign/portable at my station was not
allowed by the rules. In fact, if you go back far enough, there was a time when
mobile and portable operations by hams were not allowed by the rules.

It also used to be possible to get additional station licenses so you didn't
have to sign portable or send in postcards. A typical situation would be one
where a ham had a vacation home where hamming would take place. Of course some
hams used this provision to hang onto callsigns they didn't want to give up
when moving out of a call district.

Portable operation was allowed first (early 1930s) but for a few years you
needed a second station license with a special callsign. Oddly enough, mobile
(land vehicle) operation came later - even after aeronauticla mobile operation
by hams was allowed. US hams were not allowed to use mobile on the ham bands
below 25 MHz until 1949.

73 de Jim, N2EY