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June 7th 04, 09:12 PM
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Subject: Call Area Etiquette
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/6/2004 11:58 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Call Area Etiquette From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/5/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , Dave Heil writes: We don't know that T5/N0IMD existed. I think it did. Why? Because he "said so"...?!?! That's one reason. Lacking any proof to the contrary, I'm not going to call someone a liar. Then you're a bit more liberal than I am, I guess! =) I figure after two years of being asked yet proactively dodging the ante earns Brain the title. Sure you can...ie: Antarctica Well, there you have it. It could have happened, and all of the above-named conditions would have been met. And I have yet to meet anyone who WAS "there" that didn't have SOME memento of the occassion. I know three guys who were /KC4 who at least had pics taken at the McMurdo and Little America signs outside the outpost's complex. However even there there are international agreements on who can grant what authority, to whom, and under what circumstances. Of course. I didn't say such operation would be 100% in agreement with international requirements, just that it could happen. Sure it could...and J.Lo might leave her NEW husband and show up on my doorstep begging for me to pleasure her... I ain't holding my breath. However if she DOES show up, you can be darned sure I will have SOME sort of proof before making outlandish claims! Brain was allegedly in a military unit under United Nations auspices, and it seems he did NOTHING to get the PROPER authorizations to do what he CLAIMED to do. Maybe. But that has no bearing on whether the alleged /T5 operation took place, whether logbooks existed, and whether QSLs were exchanged. It has all the bearing in the world, Jim. How can you say that a lack of proper authorization to operate DOESN'T ahve bearing on the operation...?!?! There's not a single Amateur Radio award by any organization that I am aware of that is not predicated on the legitimacy of the operating credentials of the claimant. He can "operate" all he wants to and exchange a ton of QSL cards, but no license (or authorization or permit or certificate...what ever you want to call it...) and all that operation is worthless. Remember that all it would take to meet all of these conditions would be one QSO in a ham band using stateside calls and portable designation. As long as the legal criteria was met. In Brain's case, it appears as though it wasn't. He was not in Antarctica...he was allegedly in Somalia. He won't even provide us with the callsign of ONE station he "worked" while in Somalia. Of course not. Same goes for bands/modes/antennas/rigs used. But the lack of detail doesn't mean the alleged operation didn't happen. Please tell me you're just playing "Devil's Advocate", Jim...! The lack of detail is a different issue completely. You've GOT to be kidding me. I can tell you in INTIMATE detail the sation I had set up in my barracks on Oki in 81...Equipment, antennas, I even still have the log. Although I don't have my copy of the AMRS authorization, I can give specifics about who/what/where, callsign, and even have a couple of QSL cards from folks I worked... He can't even TELL us ONE callsign of anyone he worked...?!?! No proof = Didn't happen. Not at all. No proof = Reasonable doubt. No proof on short notice = reasonable doubt. No proof after two years = didn't happen. Nothing more or less. His "nothing more" can't be much less than what it's been, Jim! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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