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June 11th 04, 12:30 PM
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"Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in message news:%a6yc.37193$tI2.19197@fed1read07...
The police and other civil entities used many different variants across country From URL: http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/phon.full.html Used by police in New York City: Adam Boy Charlie David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Tom Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra [Variants: Eddie Larry Nancy Thomas Yankee Yellow] Used by police in Nassau County, Long Island, New York: Adam Boston Chicago Denver Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nancy Ocean Peter Queen Robert Sam Thomas Union Victor William X-ray Young Zebra Used by police in San Diego, California: Adam Boy Charles David Edward Frank George Henry Ida John King Lincoln Mary Nora Ocean Paul Queen Robert Sam Tom Unit Victor William Xray Yellow Zebra -- Keyboard In The Noise Opinions are the cheapest commodities in the world. Author unknown but "right on" ------------------------------------- Don't the police and other services use the APCO phonetics? "In 1956 the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) adopted the ICAO phonetic alphabet. Today it is THE worldwide standard for military, naval, civilian aeronautical and maritime, search and rescue groups, public safety, (law enforcement being an exception); and...the A.R.R.L." http://www.emcomm.org/svares/trainin...10_30_2001.htm http://vatusa.org/training/study_guides/voc1.html w3rv |
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June 12th 04, 01:36 AM
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#4
June 12th 04, 05:56 AM
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In article , Leo
writes: On 11 Jun 2004 20:27:22 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote: snip 1955 was 49 years ago. Unfortunately true, as I was reminded on my birthday back in May.... snip LHA / WMD 73, Leo No, FORTUNATELY! Glad you made it! Now the FUN begins. :-) After you've lived and experienced a few eras in anything, you'll find lots and lots of "experts" in that anything, who either "know all about (from reading a book or seeing a movie)" or are some- how so gifted in their relative youth that they are divine messengers sent to enlighten all the hoi polloi and the koi. :-) Just the same, in 1955 we in the U.S. military got some mass- mimeos on the "new" NATO phonetic alphabet to memorize since it would become effective in a few months from that issue. [the xerocopy machine wasn't a thing then and all orders, etc., were done in mimeograph form...which were "cut" on a type- writer...hence the term "cutting orders (for this or that)."] Good for some guffaws in discussion...like "foxtrot" for "fox" (even the term "fox trot" had gone out of style in dancing in favor of Latin American dances in that year...the "twist" had several years to appear and Chubby Checker was probably still thin). We learned "love" was out and "lima" was in (a lot of beans that). Since we all knew "how," the "H" still became "hotel." "Quebec" was a nice touch favoring the Canadians. We learned a bit more respect for "mama" and "papa" and "juliet" (for those of us who knew here, too). "Zulu time" entered the military jargon (for the Z time zone equal to GMT) and eventually entered TV entertainment through the series "JAG." Scientists and metrologists were just then beginning to argue UTC or Coordinated Universal Time (instead of Zulu...smarts folks thought they were too good for the military or something, which we would see in the 60s). I sort of liked the old phonetic alphabet since my initials came out Love How Able! "Lima Hotel Alpha" just doesn't have any zing to it. (hi, hi...hotel india, hotel india...) Hang in there for 50-plus! :-) |
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#6
June 13th 04, 02:40 PM
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Subject: Able Baker Charlie
From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/13/2004 8:07 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: After you've lived and experienced a few eras in anything, you'll find lots and lots of "experts" in that anything, who either "know all about (from reading a book or seeing a movie)" or are some- how so gifted in their relative youth that they are divine messengers sent to enlighten all the hoi polloi and the koi. :-) Gee, Len, that's interesting.... You mean like someone who's never held any class of amateur license, nor been involved in radio regulation in any way, yet loudly and repeatedly proclaims what changes should be made to the amateur radio regulations? Or someone who has never been directly invoved in the raising of children, yet proclaims what they can and cannot do at various ages - even to the point of not allowing them to be amateur radio operators before a certain age? Or someone who has never really learned or used Morse Code, yet loudly and repeatedly denies its usefulness - even to the point of denying its historical importance? Or someone who claims a desire for "civil discussion", yet will not carry on a civil discussion with someone of differing opinions, and instead refers to the other parties by ad-hominem insults to their age, work, gender, license class, education, name, ethnicity, and military service? You forgot a few, Jim: Like someone who has never been a licensed aviator who tries to advise current aviators on navigation aid functions and techniques. Like somone who has no training, certification or licensure in ANY healthcare profession trying to one-upmanship those who are. Let us not forget those who have attempted to embellish thier military service record with the sacrifices of Soldiers who were KIA three years before the commenter was ever IN the military. And there are those who make scathing comments on the nature and character of various volunteer organizations although they themselves have never been in any of these organizations, and in one case where they hadn't even reached puberty when they made thier "observations" on those organizations. The list goes on. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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#7
June 13th 04, 09:28 PM
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In article ,
(Steaming Steve der STASI Unteroffizier who has to ride the coattails of those specifically attacking personalities) scribbles: Subject: Able Baker Charlie From: PAMNO (N2EY) Date: 6/13/2004 8:07 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: After you've lived and experienced a few eras in anything, you'll find lots and lots of "experts" in that anything, who either "know all about (from reading a book or seeing a movie)" or are some- how so gifted in their relative youth that they are divine messengers sent to enlighten all the hoi polloi and the koi. :-) Gee, Len, that's interesting.... You mean like someone who's never held any class of amateur license, nor been involved in radio regulation in any way, yet loudly and repeatedly proclaims what changes should be made to the amateur radio regulations? Or someone who has never been directly invoved in the raising of children, yet proclaims what they can and cannot do at various ages - even to the point of not allowing them to be amateur radio operators before a certain age? Or someone who has never really learned or used Morse Code, yet loudly and repeatedly denies its usefulness - even to the point of denying its historical importance? Or someone who claims a desire for "civil discussion", yet will not carry on a civil discussion with someone of differing opinions, and instead refers to the other parties by ad-hominem insults to their age, work, gender, license class, education, name, ethnicity, and military service? You forgot a few, Jim: Like someone who has never been a licensed aviator who tries to advise current aviators on navigation aid functions and techniques. Oooooo...der CAP Ace SPEAKS! :-) [single-engine rated private pilot tries to sound like multi-engine air transport rated commercial captain or some figher jock...] Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor nursie, the wonderham doesn't understand that air navigation, radio navigation aids, and techniques are NOT a part of the NATO phonetic alphabet use. :-) No problem. I know how TACAN, VOR, Localizer, Glideslope, Marker Beacons, ATCRBS Transponders, Airborne radars all work because I've been intimately involved with such hardware in design engineering...in the labs as well as the fixed bases (airports to civilians). Nursie doesn't know ARINC from an earache, has never met Bill Cairns of ARINC, doesn't know what an "ATR box" is but probably (after years of military study) got to know what a "station" on an aircraft is...:-) None of that really involves the NATO phonetic alphabet because nursie is too deep in his hatred of individual personalities to be able to distinguish right from wrong. ICAO did adopt the NATO phonetic alphabet and made it a part of the Air Traffic Control language...which was adopted as English internationally back in the mid-1950s. I've used that on civil aviation radio in voice communications about 1960 for the first time. No biggie, but nursie can't let his hatred die and must tell a bunch of LIES about my past experience. :-) Like somone who has no training, certification or licensure in ANY healthcare profession trying to one-upmanship those who are. Nursie, trying to masquerade as Dr. Killgore, Knows All, thinks he wrote "Gray's Anatomy" or the "Physicians' Desk Companion." :-) Nursie can't stand being "one-upped" on ANYTHING. :-) Let us not forget those who have attempted to embellish thier military service record with the sacrifices of Soldiers who were KIA three years before the commenter was ever IN the military. Two years. My assignment was to the 71st Signal Service Battalion, 8235th Army Unit. The "71st" lost 20 members on 1 Jul 50 in an air crash in Korea, en route to bolster U.S. Army communications there. I honor their memory and of that military unit. Hardy Barracks, the last surviving U.S. military location in Tokyo, was named for one of those 20, Corporal Elmer Hardy. I was billeted at Hardy Barracks. The new transmitter site at Kashiwa was, in 1956, renamed Camp Tomlinson in honor of one of the "71st" officers on that fatal crash. I was in the first of C Company to move into the Kashiwa site and help enabling the start of HF radio operations for station ADA. I don't "embellish" anything. I was there, as assigned, did my work, and honored those who went before. I would dishonor the names of all 23 of my unit if I did not mention them or keep them in my heart. And there are those who make scathing comments on the nature and character of various volunteer organizations although they themselves have never been in any of these organizations, and in one case where they hadn't even reached puberty when they made thier "observations" on those organizations. Poor baby. Still in need of mental counsel. His obsessional hatred abounds. "Meaningful discussion" isn't possible. LHA |
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June 13th 04, 03:48 PM
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N2EY wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: After you've lived and experienced a few eras in anything, you'll find lots and lots of "experts" in that anything, who either "know all about (from reading a book or seeing a movie)" or are some- how so gifted in their relative youth that they are divine messengers sent to enlighten all the hoi polloi and the koi. :-) Gee, Len, that's interesting.... You mean like someone who's never held any class of amateur license, nor been involved in radio regulation in any way, yet loudly and repeatedly proclaims what changes should be made to the amateur radio regulations? Or someone who has never been directly invoved in the raising of children, yet proclaims what they can and cannot do at various ages - even to the point of not allowing them to be amateur radio operators before a certain age? Or someone who has never really learned or used Morse Code, yet loudly and repeatedly denies its usefulness - even to the point of denying its historical importance? Or someone who claims a desire for "civil discussion", yet will not carry on a civil discussion with someone of differing opinions, and instead refers to the other parties by ad-hominem insults to their age, work, gender, license class, education, name, ethnicity, and military service? You forgot to add: "Someone that has a main purpose here of antagonizing people into e-battles as a master troll." And in this case, his lack of experience in certain areas only serves as more bait. I for one, am impressed by just how GOOD Mr. Anderson is at this! You (or anyone here) know what will happen when you rise to the bait, you know pretty much what the resulting exchange will be, and yet it is irresistable. Whereas most antagonists eventually find no one to write to in a news group, Len has managed to generate enough interest to make himself and those who would spar with him into some of the leading posters. This is no small accomplishment. I for one have to respect that. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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June 13th 04, 09:28 PM
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In article , Mike Coslo
(jumping in on the Sermon On The Antenna Mount trolling) writes: N2EY wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: snip of today's hellfire sermon... You forgot to add: "Someone that has a main purpose here of antagonizing people into e-battles as a master troll." And in this case, his lack of experience in certain areas only serves as more bait. Awww...poor Mike got his ego perceived as stepped on? Mike, I've been involved with radio communications since the beginning of that in early 1953. That's 51 years. The subject thread is supposed to be on phonetic alphabets. No problem, I've used those since 1953 and the NATO phonetic alphabet since 1955 (49 years for that). Is that "lack of experience?" :-) I for one, am impressed by just how GOOD Mr. Anderson is at this! You (or anyone here) know what will happen when you rise to the bait, you know pretty much what the resulting exchange will be, and yet it is irresistable. In other words, you DEMAND that ALL like, honor, love, and cherish your own preferences and cannot stomach an opposite viewpoint? :-) Whhhooooo...you guys are in the WRONG venue to have such an attitude on the Internet!!! :-) Whereas most antagonists eventually find no one to write to in a news group, Len has managed to generate enough interest to make himself and those who would spar with him into some of the leading posters. "Leading posters?" :-) You mean all those wonderful folks who yell "PUTZ" and "Son of Lennie" and "Sucks to be you" or the snarly types tawkin tuff and trying to stuff opposite opinions into the ground? Yup. "Leading posters." Like the ads for some up-coming horror fantasy movie showing blood, agony, and gore all over the wall. :-) This is no small accomplishment. I for one have to respect that. The only ones asking for "respect" are the telegraphy gods of hum radio, demanding all love, honor, and cherish their "superior" mode of modes, and thus Rule over all "inferior" beings. :-) But, the subject title was "phonetic alphabets," wasn't it? Got a tad off the subject into Personal Hatred, dintcha? :-) "These things just seem to write themselves" - another hum god LHA / WMD |
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#10
June 13th 04, 10:57 PM
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In article , Mike Coslo
writes: N2EY wrote: In article , (Len Over 21) writes: After you've lived and experienced a few eras in anything, you'll find lots and lots of "experts" in that anything, who either "know all about (from reading a book or seeing a movie)" or are some- how so gifted in their relative youth that they are divine messengers sent to enlighten all the hoi polloi and the koi. :-) Gee, Len, that's interesting.... You mean like someone who's never held any class of amateur license, nor been involved in radio regulation in any way, yet loudly and repeatedly proclaims what changes should be made to the amateur radio regulations? Or someone who has never been directly invoved in the raising of children, yet proclaims what they can and cannot do at various ages - even to the point of not allowing them to be amateur radio operators before a certain age? Or someone who has never really learned or used Morse Code, yet loudly and repeatedly denies its usefulness - even to the point of denying its historical importance? Or someone who claims a desire for "civil discussion", yet will not carry on a civil discussion with someone of differing opinions, and instead refers to the other parties by ad-hominem insults to their age, work, gender, license class, education, name, ethnicity, and military service? You forgot to add: "Someone that has a main purpose here of antagonizing people into e-battles as a master troll." And in this case, his lack of experience in certain areas only serves as more bait. Well, if the shoe fits... I for one, am impressed by just how GOOD Mr. Anderson is at this! I'm not. You (or anyone here) know what will happen when you rise to the bait, you know pretty much what the resulting exchange will be, and yet it is irresistable. Naw, it's totally resistible. And predictable. Whereas most antagonists eventually find no one to write to in a news group, Len has managed to generate enough interest to make himself and those who would spar with him into some of the leading posters. Nothing new there, Mike. This is no small accomplishment. I for one have to respect that. I don't. There's nothing to respect or admire able about being able to tear down, insult, and destroy - or attempt to. Here's a classic for ya - I call it "the sphincter post": http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...001001%40nso-f p.aol.com&output=gplain 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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