In article , Alun
writes:

Don't forget, the requirements for DXCC are far more stringent than those
of mere legality. I have seen threads before where people have argued past
oneanother on this point, i.e. one of them has used the term 'legal' when
they were really talking about DXCC eligibility, a big mistake.

For example, operation without the permission of the owner of the land or
building is not valid for DXCC, but it is seldom illegal. More to the point
in this case, perhaps(?), operation from a war zone is legal with
permission of whoever appears to be in control, but good luck getting it
approved for DXCC.

Alun, if there be some etymology of that thread, no "DXCC" was
involved. No contesting at all was involved.

It began when Heil made some chance remark about "working
Frenchmen on 6m out of band." Brian Burke tossed that one
back to him with some mild ascerbicity which caused Heil to
go bananas. Nursie got out his rusty bayonet, locked and
loaded, and made like the Charge of Lite Brigade (which led
into the Valley of Death of his of today).

Nursie never got to Somalia, certainly not to any "hostile action"
there (or anyplace else with any proof) but Brian Burke did.
Brian earlier had made a chance remark about operating from
there on ham frequencies, getting permission from his
commanding officer. That resulted in a long, overdrawn word
battle and flame war with Heil who was resentful (to the max)
of anyone having the temerity to toss him a rejoinder. Nursie
jumped in on that with usual diss-and-cuss, trying to make
like a legal eagle with smarts instead of the hummingbird
with dumbth.

The PCTA of this newsgrope all seem to be self-righteous,
prissy puritans of perfection who will explode with outrage at
the slightest provocation of their beloved manual telegraphy
as being anything less than the ultimate skill of amateurs.

It's almost as Henry Ford put it on the color of the Model T:
"You can have any opinion you want, so long as its pro-
code."

That's the "new" freedom of speech in here. Enjoy.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , Alun
writes:

Don't forget, the requirements for DXCC are far more stringent than those
of mere legality. I have seen threads before where people have argued past
oneanother on this point, i.e. one of them has used the term 'legal' when
they were really talking about DXCC eligibility, a big mistake.

For example, operation without the permission of the owner of the land or
building is not valid for DXCC, but it is seldom illegal. More to the point
in this case, perhaps(?), operation from a war zone is legal with
permission of whoever appears to be in control, but good luck getting it
approved for DXCC.

Alun, if there be some etymology of that thread, no "DXCC" was
involved. No contesting at all was involved.

It began when Heil made some chance remark about "working
Frenchmen on 6m out of band." Brian Burke tossed that one
back to him with some mild ascerbicity which caused Heil to
go bananas. Nursie got out his rusty bayonet, locked and
loaded, and made like the Charge of Lite Brigade (which led
into the Valley of Death of his of today).

Nursie never got to Somalia, certainly not to any "hostile action"
there (or anyplace else with any proof) but Brian Burke did.
Brian earlier had made a chance remark about operating from
there on ham frequencies, getting permission from his
commanding officer. That resulted in a long, overdrawn word
battle and flame war with Heil who was resentful (to the max)
of anyone having the temerity to toss him a rejoinder. Nursie
jumped in on that with usual diss-and-cuss, trying to make
like a legal eagle with smarts instead of the hummingbird
with dumbth.

The PCTA of this newsgrope all seem to be self-righteous,
prissy puritans of perfection who will explode with outrage at
the slightest provocation of their beloved manual telegraphy
as being anything less than the ultimate skill of amateurs.

It's almost as Henry Ford put it on the color of the Model T:
"You can have any opinion you want, so long as its pro-
code."

That's the "new" freedom of speech in here. Enjoy.



I got back from a week of aerial operations, drove by the storage
unit, and checked that the lock wasn't jimmied ("jimmied" is a common
use for B/E, not a slam against the Rev. Jim).

My T5 logs are safe and secure. One day they may have real historical
value. I could divide them up and run some through Christie's and the
others through Sothby's. Maybe I'll just make a run of numbered
copies, suitable for framing.

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article , Alun
writes:

Don't forget, the requirements for DXCC are far more stringent than those
of mere legality. I have seen threads before where people have argued past

oneanother on this point, i.e. one of them has used the term 'legal' when
they were really talking about DXCC eligibility, a big mistake.

For example, operation without the permission of the owner of the land or
building is not valid for DXCC, but it is seldom illegal. More to the
point
in this case, perhaps(?), operation from a war zone is legal with
permission of whoever appears to be in control, but good luck getting it
approved for DXCC.

Alun, if there be some etymology of that thread, no "DXCC" was
involved. No contesting at all was involved.

It began when Heil made some chance remark about "working
Frenchmen on 6m out of band." Brian Burke tossed that one
back to him with some mild ascerbicity which caused Heil to
go bananas. Nursie got out his rusty bayonet, locked and
loaded, and made like the Charge of Lite Brigade (which led
into the Valley of Death of his of today).

Nursie never got to Somalia, certainly not to any "hostile action"
there (or anyplace else with any proof) but Brian Burke did.
Brian earlier had made a chance remark about operating from
there on ham frequencies, getting permission from his
commanding officer. That resulted in a long, overdrawn word
battle and flame war with Heil who was resentful (to the max)
of anyone having the temerity to toss him a rejoinder. Nursie
jumped in on that with usual diss-and-cuss, trying to make
like a legal eagle with smarts instead of the hummingbird
with dumbth.

The PCTA of this newsgrope all seem to be self-righteous,
prissy puritans of perfection who will explode with outrage at
the slightest provocation of their beloved manual telegraphy
as being anything less than the ultimate skill of amateurs.

It's almost as Henry Ford put it on the color of the Model T:
"You can have any opinion you want, so long as its pro-
code."

That's the "new" freedom of speech in here. Enjoy.



I got back from a week of aerial operations, drove by the storage
unit, and checked that the lock wasn't jimmied ("jimmied" is a common
use for B/E, not a slam against the Rev. Jim).

My T5 logs are safe and secure. One day they may have real historical
value. I could divide them up and run some through Christie's and the
others through Sothby's. Maybe I'll just make a run of numbered
copies, suitable for framing.

A press run would be a non-good idea. That would start another
spate of Book Burning by the PCTA in general, sponsored by
the enemies of fantasy.

Some overweight stubbly-faced documentary film maker would
get publicity for his expose of Somalia, that it "never happened."
["Moore to come" as Variety put it...]

Denial of reality is the stock in trade of the olde-tyme hammes
who love, honor, and obey morsemanship. Everyone who speaks
against them "LIE!" :-)

LHA / WMD

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:


I got back from a week of aerial operations, drove by the storage
unit, and checked that the lock wasn't jimmied ("jimmied" is a common
use for B/E, not a slam against the Rev. Jim).

My T5 logs are safe and secure. One day they may have real historical
value. I could divide them up and run some through Christie's and the
others through Sothby's. Maybe I'll just make a run of numbered
copies, suitable for framing.

A press run would be a non-good idea. That would start another
spate of Book Burning by the PCTA in general, sponsored by
the enemies of fantasy.

Farenheit 911.

Some overweight stubbly-faced documentary film maker would
get publicity for his expose of Somalia, that it "never happened."
["Moore to come" as Variety put it...]

He's gotta shave that stubble before squeezing into that CAP flight suit.

Denial of reality is the stock in trade of the olde-tyme hammes
who love, honor, and obey morsemanship. Everyone who speaks
against them "LIE!" :-)

Battle Cry: "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!"

Subject: Temper Fry, Was Able Baker Charlie
From: (William)
Date: 6/22/2004 5:39 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

My T5 logs are safe and secure. One day they may have real historical
value. I could divide them up and run some through Christie's and the
others through Sothby's. Maybe I'll just make a run of numbered
copies, suitable for framing.

Suitable only if they ever create a museum for falsified documents.

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

I got back from a week of aerial operations, drove by the storage
unit, and checked that the lock wasn't jimmied ("jimmied" is a common
use for B/E, not a slam against the Rev. Jim).

My T5 logs are safe and secure. One day they may have real historical
value. I could divide them up and run some through Christie's and the
others through Sothby's. Maybe I'll just make a run of numbered
copies, suitable for framing.

A press run would be a non-good idea. That would start another
spate of Book Burning by the PCTA in general, sponsored by
the enemies of fantasy.

Farenheit 911.

Ray Bradbury might sue nursie, too. :-)

Some overweight stubbly-faced documentary film maker would
get publicity for his expose of Somalia, that it "never happened."
["Moore to come" as Variety put it...]

He's gotta shave that stubble before squeezing into that CAP flight suit.

Michael Moore gonna be a CAP co-pilot?!? :-)

Denial of reality is the stock in trade of the olde-tyme hammes
who love, honor, and obey morsemanship. Everyone who speaks
against them "LIE!" :-)

Battle Cry: "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!"

I think some other idiot already used that old schoolyard taunt in
here...as an adult! Probably the Adell-pated one. :-)

Unimportant.