In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Len, just get the damm license.

Just for the purpose of settling a very few newsgrope irregulars
who are irritated by controversy? :-)

No, Len, to satisfy your several decades of self-declared interest in
amateur radio and to be able to hold your head up after your "Extra
right out of the box" boast.

I've had an interest in ALL radio for half a century.

Worked in lots of different radio services during that time.

Guess that isn't the same as the oh-so-very-different amateur
radio. You must think amateur radio works by different physics
principles than all other radio?

Riiiiiight. Amateur radio is special, very different, not at all like
all other radio, much more superior, much more noble, glorious,
etc., etc., etc.


Don't just read about it, Len. Experience it first hand.

Too difficult for ordinary people. Amateur radio is so much MORE
than all other radio and no ordinary person can measure up to
your superiority and tenure in amateur radio. Nossir. Trying to be
as superior as yourself is a non-starter. Can't be done.


If you want an HF amateur license, it is considered important. You
could always tackle a code free ticket though.

I don't have any interest on getting an HF AMATEUR license.
I've been on HF, both in the military and commercial radio field.
I've been on HF without any amateur license earlier this year,
all very legal.

I've never had to learn or use any manual telegraphy in 51 years of
actual communicating on HF.

Then again, you've never held an amateur radio license.

Right! Wow, Heil, you are sure so superior! Amazing.


Morse code skill is an anachronism.

Sure it is, Leonard. So is AM. So is SSB. So is baudot RTTY.

Morse code was first used in 1844. No "AM" then, no "SSB,"
no "baudot RTTY." :-)

I haven't used "baudot RTTY" or even "Baudot TTY" in decades.
Old stuff. It's been 8-level ASCII TTY coding for over three decades,
olde tymer. 100 WPM equivalent sustained throughput on those
old electromagnetic TTY machines...much faster with electronic
terminals.

Morse code is 160 years old this year. Well before radio was
ever demonstrated as a communicaitons mediium. It was once
very useful but no longer. It's use is now relegated to helping
self-important, superior amateurs denigrate those who don't care
for slow, manual on-off keying anachronistic communication modes.

Only amateurs use it with any
regularity and then those are only a few amateurs, a minority.

Only a few amateurs using morse? You're as wrong about that as you were
about Fessenden.

Okay, big superior one, give us the EXACT number of morse users
on the amateur ranks. USING morse regularly.

Yes, we all know that you are as good as a hundred or even a thousand
ordinary radio amateurs but that inflation is not allowed for the EXACT
number. Prove your work.

I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.

Not a good reason for me to waste my time trying to re-enact
the past.

You have to get out more. Thousands and thousands of radio amateurs use
morse in the present.

...and many more than "thousands and thousands of radio amateurs"
are NOT using morse code. So?


Then get on the air some.

Been there, done that, from LF on up to microwaves.

Not as a radio amateur, you haven't.

Right again! Oh, frabjous joy, the SUPERIOR one shows how good
he IS! :-)


My friend Jack has a license and experience. You don't know Jack.

[don't give up your day job...stand-up comedy is not your forte']

I went all through high school with John Hof. Nobody called him
"Jack." :-)

Ham radio works by different principles than all other radios.
That's what I'm told. I don't believe them, but lots of hams do.

Operating principles are not the sum total of amateur radio.

Riiiiiiight!!!!! It is the mindset, the glory, the nobility, the
imagination, and the fantasy of THE AMATEUR SERVICE!

The few, the proud, the United States Amateur Corps!

Be all that you can be...and more!

Wear that superiority proudly...show others who's Boss around here!

[all that for a hobby...]


As far as morseodism is concerned, I'm an atheist. I don't
worship at the Church of St. Hiram. Put away your collection
plate and Him books.

I get it. Because you don't find anything in which to believe, the rest
of us aren't supposed to take part for fear of offending you. How very
PC.

Separate church and state, Mother Superior.

"PC?" My Personal Computer works very well, thank you. No license
needed to use it, certainly no morse code skill needed with it. It can
reach around the world wherever there's an Internet connection without
any worry about HF propagation conditions.

But...you were talking "political correctness" weren't you? Of course.
Everyone has to Believe your personal political correctness or be
constantly damned as a heretic. No problem. You go ahead and act
as superior as you've always done. :-)

All us readers can expect nothing else. You ARE superior.

LHA / WMD