From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.


Maybe, maybe not.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.


Perhaps in a limited view. Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options. By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.


Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own interests.

"Lumushahs" wrote in message
...
From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.


Maybe, maybe not.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are
"hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.


Perhaps in a limited view. Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options. By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.


Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own
interests.


There is no requirement, formal or informal or otherwise, to follow any
particular, so-called culture. The term "ham" is, and has been for
approximately 100 years, a term meaning amateur radio operator. One hundred
years ago, there was no CB and there were no contests. Morse was a
necessity but hams were working diligently on better transmitters and
working towards developing voice transmissions. When the term was coined,
none of the factors that you list were pertinent and some didn't even exist.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Subject: Famous Hams
From: (Lumushahs)
Date: 7/17/2004 6:46 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.


Maybe, maybe not.

No maybe...No maybe not.

If they have an FCC form 600 with thier name and an Amateur callsign and
class of license

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.


Perhaps in a limited view. Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options. By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

Not, they don't.

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.


Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Vipul, you're a bigot of almost immeasurable proportion if you think that
those things you just described are what define "Ham" radio.

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own interests.

No kidding...?!?! You think some people really have thier OWN ideas of
what they want to take away from Amateur Radio...?!?!

Were you born this way or is it the culmination of a life long
pursuit...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(Lumushahs) writes:

From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.

Maybe, maybe not.

If they hold a valid amateur radio license, they're hams. By definition.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.

Perhaps in a limited view.

No, they mean exactly the same thing by definition. To be one is to be the
other.

Your attempt to redefine what certain words mean is futile. Give it up.

Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options.

No, it's just a word.

By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

Being an amateur radio operator/ham does not mean one must subscribe to any
"culture".

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Nope. Not at all.

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own interests.

And if those people have amateur radio licenses, they are hams. If they do not
have amateur radio licenses, they are not hams.

Sorry, PØRKY is not a valid call (;-)

However, NØPIG is a valid call -- check QRZ

Sorry if this is a BØAR
--
Lamont Cranston

The Shadow Knows
"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article ,
PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

http://users.tellurian.com/gjurrens/famous_hams.html

Porky Pig is a ham. He on the list?

LHA / WMD

In article nSQJc.1002$fB4.54@lakeread01, "Da Shadow" writes:

Sorry, PØRKY is not a valid call (;-)

However, NØPIG is a valid call -- check QRZ

Sorry if this is a BØAR
--
Lamont Cranston

Sunnuvagun! Really? :-)

Does Warner Brothers know about this? :-)

[loved your show in the old days on AM BC... :-) ]

LHA / WMD

On 16 Jul 2004 22:02:42 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

In article nSQJc.1002$fB4.54@lakeread01, "Da Shadow" writes:

Sorry, PØRKY is not a valid call (;-)

However, NØPIG is a valid call -- check QRZ

Sorry if this is a BØAR
--
Lamont Cranston

Sunnuvagun! Really? :-)

Does Warner Brothers know about this? :-)

[loved your show in the old days on AM BC... :-) ]

Yup - that guy sold an awful lot of Blue Coal, Wildroot and
Camels.....


LHA / WMD

73, Leo

In article , Leo
writes:

On 16 Jul 2004 22:02:42 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

In article nSQJc.1002$fB4.54@lakeread01, "Da Shadow" writes:

Sorry, PØRKY is not a valid call (;-)

However, NØPIG is a valid call -- check QRZ

Sorry if this is a BØAR
--
Lamont Cranston

Sunnuvagun! Really? :-)

Does Warner Brothers know about this? :-)

[loved your show in the old days on AM BC... :-) ]

Yup - that guy sold an awful lot of Blue Coal, Wildroot and
Camels.....

"Wildroot" and "Camels" I know. What be "Blue Coal?"

Not that I was buying much then as a youth of a lad in
Illinois way back when... :-)

Forgive me, I digress. This thread is all about the IMPORTANCE
of being famous through amateur radio... :-)

LHA / WMD