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William August 17th 04 02:12 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Hans, you saying, "*MY* Amateur Radio Service," just smacks of "Old
Flatulencism."

Hans is a radio amateur.


True enough.


Not enough.


Enough for flatulence.

His use
of the possessive is common and
proper English. Just as someone
will speak of "my church", "my
school" or "my community" even
though the speaker does not own
them.


I read it differently.
Hans emphasized "*MY*" as in ownership.

Like when taking command of a Flight, you preface
the event with the phrase, "By *MY* Command!"


Like taking command of a
newsgroup...by "Quitefine's"
heckuva haiku nonsense...


He so smart.

"LHA" is not a radio amateur, and
so cannot say it is "his" amateur
radio.


Len is an American. It is as much his as it could
be anyone elses.


Not enough. Must do 20 WPM
morse, love and cherish all
things old-tyme hamme.


Rusty Keys

(Sorry Hans, I CAN"T say O.F. or the Semi-Moral Minority will
cane me. Hi, hi!)

You can write whatever you wish. But
then you must allow others the same
freedom. This seems to be a problem
for you.


Jim, you just end up looking bad when you alter
the quote of other peoples posts. I'd advise
against doing that in the future. But hey,
you've already earned your reputation.


He be "renowned."

"Quitefine" ask "Jim who?"

He not know who...


When we see altered
post, we know Who.

Numerous people wanted to join the amateur service because of the
emergency service aspect of our hobby.

Whom? How many? Who are
these people?


They are the ones getting licensed every day.
You're the one who posts the numbers each month.
Drill down into the data to see what their
names are and their spankin' new call signs.


He know. He not say.


He silent majority.

They may have no interest in
building NE602 receivers or CW memory keyers.

Is that a problem?


Actually, it may be a problem if they do.


There are no problems.

Provided all love and cherish
morse code and worship at
Church of St. Hiram.

Amen.


Amen, Amen, Amen...

As such, the Technician
exam is too complex material for a person with such intentions.

What is your solution?
Is the Technician test
so difficult that it
represents a barrier to
the entry of new hams?
Is it full of questions on
NE602 receivers and
memory keyers?


Hans and I are in agreement on a new license

class.

The only agreement is that of
agreeing with Jimmy Who.


Ooops? My agreement
with Hans no good?

On the other hand, a student license with mandatory hand holding is
lunacy.

Not lunacy. Simply not
a good idea, in our opinion.


OK, not lunacy. Just impossible to work properly.
A paper drill where everyone signs off but does
nothing. Except at the Dayton Hamvention Dinner
where someone get an award for signing off the
most paperwork.


Awards with certificates!

End goal of all "real" hams.

Pretty paper on the wall saying
"see? I knew it all!"


The work's not over
til the paperworks done.

So in the end, I agree to not have such a license class. But
remember, Jim says that we need more license classes. Apparently it
doesn't matter how he gets them.

To which "Jim" do you refer?
We have read posts here recently
from AA2QA, N2EY, and at least
one other "Jim".


Jimmy Who.


Who dat who say who dere?


Jimmy Who! Dat Who!

The only one we recall who
has recently written about the
number of license classes is
the "Jim" with the callsign N2EY.
He proposed three license classes.


That would be you.


Not Who?


Yes, yes, dat Who.

So it cannot be "Jim/N2EY" to
whom you refer.


Says you, Who.


Bad disguise.

Needs class, course in
Newsgroup Makeup.


He so smart. How
we figger it our
so fas?

Where indignant
Ole Yeller to
make substantial
comment on Jimmy
Who's disguise?

Is there another "Jim" who "wants
more license classes"?

How many?


How high?


...and for how long?


Code Forever!

All tune in tomorrow for another session of wisdom from the
all-seeing, all-knowing "Quitefine" and those long, long, long
postings...by who...

LHA / WMD


"Sorry Hans, Quitefine IS Jimmy Who!"

Hi, hi!

Can't wait to see nutso Steve's comments on these Quitefine anon postings.

Len, dollar says he invoke PCTA Double Standard and gib Jimmy Who da pass.

KØHB August 17th 04 06:37 PM


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

It assigns a trail of responsibility in the training of the
new ops.


"Trail of responsibility"?????? I always kind of liked the idea of
self-responsibility, even though it's less popular in your new "me"
generation.

I'm going to type kinda slow here, Steve, so you can keep up.

E v e r y o n e h e r e i s i n f a v o r o f E l m e r
s
a n d m e n t o r s a n d A R R L S S C l u b s
h e l p i n g n e w c o m e r s ( a n d o l d c o m e r s )
w h o w a n t s o m e h e l p.

N o b o d y e x c e p t y o u s e e s a n y v a l u e
i n a l i c e n s e w h i c h R E Q U I R E S t h e
l i c e n s e e t o b e S U P E R V I S E D w h e n
t h e y o p e r a t e.

73 de Hans, K0HB






Steve Robeson K4CAP August 17th 04 07:52 PM

Subject: Another D-H* NCVEC proposal
From: "KØHB"
Date: 8/17/2004 12:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

It assigns a trail of responsibility in the training of the
new ops.


"Trail of responsibility"?????? I always kind of liked the idea of
self-responsibility, even though it's less popular in your new "me"
generation.

I'm going to type kinda slow here, Steve, so you can keep up.


No need, Hans.

There are SOME people here who have thier OWN perception problems
(especially those who talk out of thier mouth one way about certain third
parties then do exactly the same thing.)

The item you quoted was also several days old...The REST of us had moved
past it.

You're a day late and a dollar short...Again.

Can't you select your insults in a bit more timely manner, Old Fella?

73

Steve, K4YZ








Len Over 21 August 18th 04 02:18 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...

In article ,
(William) writes:

Did you arrive at a different answer?


Yes.


Naturally.

How's your planetary predictions coming along?


He probably channeled Kepler and told him
his theories were "incorrect!" :-)

Galileo, Copernicus, and Tycho Brahe,
too...if they opposed his mighty
opinions.

Error! Incorrect! All them
guys
need AMATEUR astronomer
licenses!

Polly gonna "kiss his
grits!"

LHA / WMD

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 August 18th 04 02:18 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

Subject: Another D-H* NCVEC proposal
From:
(William)
Date: 17 Aug 2004 06:12:37 -0700

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Hans, you saying, "*MY* Amateur Radio Service," just smacks of "Old
Flatulencism."

Hans is a radio amateur.

True enough.


Not enough.


Enough for flatulence.

His use
of the possessive is common and
proper English. Just as someone
will speak of "my church", "my
school" or "my community" even
though the speaker does not own
them.

I read it differently.
Hans emphasized "*MY*" as in ownership.

Like when taking command of a Flight, you

preface
the event with the phrase, "By *MY* Command!"


Like taking command of a
newsgroup...by

"Quitefine's"
heckuva haiku nonsense...


He so smart.

"LHA" is not a radio amateur, and
so cannot say it is "his" amateur
radio.

Len is an American. It is as much his as it

could
be anyone elses.


Not enough. Must do 20 WPM
morse, love and cherish all
things old-tyme hamme.


Rusty Keys

(Sorry Hans, I CAN"T say O.F. or the Semi-Moral Minority will
cane me. Hi, hi!)

You can write whatever you wish. But
then you must allow others the same
freedom. This seems to be a problem
for you.

Jim, you just end up looking bad when you

alter
the quote of other peoples posts. I'd advise
against doing that in the future. But hey,
you've already earned your reputation.


He be "renowned."

"Quitefine" ask "Jim who?"

He not know who...


When we see altered
post, we know Who.

Numerous people wanted to join the amateur service because of the
emergency service aspect of our hobby.

Whom? How many? Who are
these people?

They are the ones getting licensed every day.


You're the one who posts the numbers each

month.
Drill down into the data to see what their
names are and their spankin' new call signs.


He know. He not say.


He silent majority.

They may have no interest in
building NE602 receivers or CW memory keyers.

Is that a problem?

Actually, it may be a problem if they do.


There are no problems.

Provided all love and

cherish
morse code and worship at
Church of St. Hiram.

Amen.


Amen, Amen, Amen...

As such, the Technician
exam is too complex material for a person with such intentions.

What is your solution?
Is the Technician test
so difficult that it
represents a barrier to
the entry of new hams?
Is it full of questions on
NE602 receivers and
memory keyers?

Hans and I are in agreement on a new license

class.

The only agreement is that

of
agreeing with Jimmy Who.


Ooops? My
agreement
with Hans no good?

On the other hand, a student license with mandatory hand holding is
lunacy.

Not lunacy. Simply not
a good idea, in our opinion.

OK, not lunacy. Just impossible to work

properly.
A paper drill where everyone signs off but

does
nothing. Except at the Dayton Hamvention

Dinner
where someone get an award for signing off the


most paperwork.


Awards with certificates!

End goal of all "real" hams.

Pretty paper on the wall

saying
"see? I knew it all!"


The work's not over
til the paperworks
done.

So in the end, I agree to not have such a license class. But
remember, Jim says that we need more license classes. Apparently it
doesn't matter how he gets them.

To which "Jim" do you refer?
We have read posts here recently
from AA2QA, N2EY, and at least
one other "Jim".

Jimmy Who.


Who dat who say who dere?


Jimmy Who! Dat
Who!

The only one we recall who
has recently written about the
number of license classes is
the "Jim" with the callsign N2EY.
He proposed three license classes.

That would be you.


Not Who?


Yes, yes, dat
Who.

So it cannot be "Jim/N2EY" to
whom you refer.

Says you, Who.


Bad disguise.

Needs class, course in
Newsgroup Makeup.


He so smart.
How
we figger it
our
so fas?

Where indignant

Ole Yeller to
make
substantial
comment on
Jimmy
Who's disguise?

Is there another "Jim" who "wants
more license classes"?

How many?

How high?


...and for how long?


Code Forever!

All tune in tomorrow for another session of wisdom from the
all-seeing, all-knowing "Quitefine" and those long, long, long
postings...by who...

LHA / WMD


"Sorry Hans, Quitefine IS Jimmy Who!"

Hi, hi!

Can't wait to see nutso Steve's comments on these Quitefine anon postings.

Len, dollar says he invoke PCTA Double Standard and gib Jimmy Who da pass.


All bets
are off...

Nursie
busy "dialing,"
(the
dingaling). He
gonna
COMMIT all
his
"enemies." :-)

LHA / WMD

William August 18th 04 03:00 AM

"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote

It assigns a trail of responsibility in the training of the
new ops.


"Trail of responsibility"?????? I always kind of liked the idea of
self-responsibility, even though it's less popular in your new "me"
generation.

I'm going to type kinda slow here, Steve, so you can keep up.

E v e r y o n e h e r e i s i n f a v o r o f E l m e r
s
a n d m e n t o r s a n d A R R L S S C l u b s
h e l p i n g n e w c o m e r s ( a n d o l d c o m e r s )
w h o w a n t s o m e h e l p.

N o b o d y e x c e p t y o u s e e s a n y v a l u e
i n a l i c e n s e w h i c h R E Q U I R E S t h e
l i c e n s e e t o b e S U P E R V I S E D w h e n
t h e y o p e r a t e.

73 de Hans, K0HB


Why bother to have a license when
you can operate unlicensed while
supervised (by a control op)???

William August 19th 04 12:16 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

In article ,
(William) writes:

Can't wait to see nutso Steve's comments on these Quitefine anon postings.

Len, dollar says he invoke PCTA Double Standard and gib Jimmy Who da pass.


All bets
are off...


Darnit Len, it was only a dollar!!! That's merely 1/35th of an annual
membership in the American Radio Relay League.

Nursie
busy "dialing,"
(the
dingaling). He
gonna
COMMIT all
his
"enemies." :-)

LHA / WMD


He'll have to do triage on that dialing finger. He's picked so many
fights all over this newsgroup he'll probably even get a blister on
his fingernail (not to mention another cigar box medal).

And why does he have to have a "Dialing Emergency" when he should be
getting on this Anon Quitefine character? When has he ever passed up
an opportunity to try to bust the chops of ANY anon poster?

William August 19th 04 01:38 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,


(Len Over 21) writes:

The "dump huck' NCVEC sent their petition to the FCC on
1 March 2003. ["dump huck is Brakob's wording not NCVEC]

The FCC put it in RM-10870 on 4 March 2004.

Brakob commented on it. I commented on Brakob's comment
as well as the petition itself.

Your comments include
errors of fact and
misleading information.

Such as?

Now, as a retired member of das Amateur Schutz Staffel, you
want to DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN?!?!?!?

Is continued
discussion forbidden?

Only by non-amateurs. Everyone else can carry on.

How many times do you need to rant, rave, slobber, snarl, and
otherwise act like an ashpit over something ALREADY
DISCUSSED AT IN LENGTH?!?!?!?

We ask you the same question.

Did you arrive at a different answer?

"They" did.

The answers are in
anonymity and special
spacing.

None shall survive who incur
the wrath of Miccolis on AOL.

LHA / WMD


Yep. Jim polluted his own backyard and now has to post anon. Hi, hi!


"Jim who?" Who hah! Ho ho hi hi. :-)

LHA / WMD


Jim-mee Who. Dat who. Hi, hi!

William August 19th 04 01:38 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Quitefine) wrote in message
...
In article ,


(Len Over 21) writes:

The "dump huck' NCVEC sent their petition to the FCC on
1 March 2003. ["dump huck is Brakob's wording not NCVEC]

The FCC put it in RM-10870 on 4 March 2004.

Brakob commented on it. I commented on Brakob's comment
as well as the petition itself.

Your comments include
errors of fact and
misleading information.

Such as?

Now, as a retired member of das Amateur Schutz Staffel, you
want to DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN?!?!?!?

Is continued
discussion forbidden?

Only by non-amateurs. Everyone else can carry on.

How many times do you need to rant, rave, slobber, snarl, and
otherwise act like an ashpit over something ALREADY
DISCUSSED AT IN LENGTH?!?!?!?

We ask you the same question.

Did you arrive at a different answer?

"They" did.

The answers are in
anonymity and special
spacing.

None shall survive who incur
the wrath of Miccolis on AOL.

LHA / WMD


Yep. Jim polluted his own backyard and now has to post anon. Hi, hi!


"Jim who?" Who hah! Ho ho hi hi. :-)

LHA / WMD


Jim-mee Who. Dat who. Hi, hi!

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 19th 04 10:16 AM

Subject: Quitefine Anon, was: Another D-H* NCVEC proposal
From: (William)
Date: 8/18/2004 6:16 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...


Len, dollar says he invoke PCTA Double Standard and gib Jimmy Who da pass.


All bets
are off...


Darnit Len, it was only a dollar!!! That's merely 1/35th of an annual
membership in the American Radio Relay League.


Actually, Brainless, One dollar is only 1/39th of a League membership.

Facts, Brain...Ya gotta do the research and get the FACTS right.

(ahhhhhh....yeeeeeah...Like THAT will ever happen...)

Guess we all know how long it's been since you DID hold a League
membership, eh? I't BEEN $39 for YEARS now....


Steve, K4YZ







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