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Len Over 21 August 24th 04 04:10 AM

Back at Ya, NURSIE
 
In article , (Some
knuckleheaded CB Plusser with FALSE callsign K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,


Please remind us of your healthcare certifications, licensure,
education or training, Lennie...?!?!?


NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR electronics qualifications?


Over 30 years in Amateur Radio. Eighteen and an half in USMC Avionics.


That's all? :-)

NURSIE not work military communications on HF? Nope.

NURSIE not work commercial communications on HF? Nope.

NURSIE not work in REAL electronics engineering? Nope.

NURSIE not work national politics in USA? Nope.

NURSIE not work in aerospace business? Nope.

NURSIE not not do much except be amateur on HF Yep.


NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR military radio qualifications?


More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a
"military radio operator".


NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.

HF transmitter with 1 KW or more, dozens of them.

Microwave radio relay operations and maintenance supervisor.

Twenty-four voice channel 1.8 GHz terminals made by GE.

NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR civilian commercial radio
qualifications?


None. Not pertinent in an AMATUER RADIO forum.


But NURSIE KNOW all 'bout those, talk about them in bad terms!

NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR "hostile action" qualifications?


Not pertinent in an AMATEUR RADIO forum.


But NURSIE MAKE BIG BRAG of heroism in service! [but no dates
or other details, ey?]

NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR electronics engineering
department expertise (after spending less than half a year as a
purchasing agent in a set-top box maker) qualifications?


I didn't work for a "set top box maker", Lennie. The "company" I worked
for was a subsidiary. I was not an employee of ANTEC. You were told this
before, but still try to use it as a diminuitive.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Antec makes "set-top boxes." They say so, show so.

What, NURSIE do "volunteer work" for good of company?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR long career in commercial
industry in any other field of work?


Not pertinent in an AMATEUR RADIO forum, Lennie.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NURSIE make big brag noises in here about "ER," medical
"expertise," and ability to "call authorities to have newsgroup
opponents 'committed!'"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR qualifications to read
federal agency documents and directives and then bluffingly
blurt "MARS IS amateur radio"?


Sorry Lennie, it is.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U.S. Department of Defense has directive saying what IS MARS.

NURSIE no like that. Poor NURSIE.


NURSIE, I've NOT had to "make up anything" about my military service.


Sure you have. You have repeatedly tried to bluff your way into a more
"robust" military career by trying to link your "service" at a rear area relay
station in Japan with the deaths of Army KIA's in Korea.


NURSIE weird and wired.

NURSIE want to make "LIARS" out of Department of Defense, United
States Army, National Archives and Records Administration, and the
Pacific edition of Stars and Stripes military newspaper!

NURSIE also want to make a "LIAR" out of the private Korean War
website...and anyone else who can truthfully prove things.

NURSIE need to talk to the Barkers and tell them, in no uncertain
terms, that ANY honoring of Korean War dead is "dishonorable!"

That in and of itself makes you a creep of unfathomable depth.


Psychological transference again. NURSIE look in mirror, try to
call others what she see in mirror. Tsk.

It's all on documents at NARA in St. Louis.


Not the parts you tried to push off on us here.


NARA has all my military experience documentation.

I am sure you are sorry you got caught doing it, but you did.


"Sorry?"

I'm rather sorry to encounter such a nutso as yourself...but life
is like that.

Now...tell us all about your military action heroism in those
"seven hostile actions!" Like dates and locations... :-)

Sucks to be you.

It's in the experiences of other hams such as Gene, N2JTV, who served
WITH me at the same time.


Too bad Gene didn't get a chance to read some of the cowardly crap you
pulled in here.


He still can if he bothers to look in from home in Long Island. :-)

I don't know why he would. Although he's been a REAL extra for a
long time, this forum's basic content is NURSIE shouting, hollering,
and yell-yelling at everyone else! As well as talking NATIONAL
POLITICS, THE ECONOMY, SPACE BUSINESS, and other
wonderful subjects where the "qualifications" require high-rate
morsemanship? :-)

It's even in the Pacific edition of the military newspaper Stars and
Stripes, in their 10 November 2002 edition...including six photos
that I took.


Whoopie doo.

Two pictures I took wound up in Naval Air News and that has a far wider
distribution that PacS&S. So give me a Pulitzer.


You keep giving your opponents a "Putziler." :-)

So, you think the STARS and STRIPES military newspaper is
"second" in distribution? What a stupid idea. The "Stripes" is
published WORLDWIDE for ALL branches, ALL members and
their dependents. Some regions get to customize parts of it,
but not all of each edition.

The Pacific edition of the STARS and STRIPES is NOT called
"PacS&S." You should not try to make up military acronyms
without authorization.

So, what edition of the Naval Air News? Did that editon carry
an acco**** of one of your heroic "hostile actions?"

Neither my release from military service (as an E-5 sergeant) nor my
Honorable Discharge papers have anything about any "medical
release" conditions prompting any early exit.


And that has WHAT to do with your rantings in an AMATEUR RADIO forum,
Lennie?


It should show truthfulness...unlike a Medical Discharge person
suddenly making that discharge "honorable." As you did. Tsk.

I served, did my job, got promoted regularly, had an interesting
experience that sold me on REAL radio communications...which
led to a major career goal change that I followed.


And that has WHAT to do with your rantings in an AMATEUR RADIO forum,
Lennie?


NURSIE, try to learn this: I was NOT a "radio clerk."

Got that?

HF communications. Big time. More transmitters than you've operated
in amateur radio. More VHF through microwave equipment than you
will never operate in amateur radio. A half century ago. Never once
did I have to operate any transmitter with morse code on-off keying.

You don't get the picture, do you? A long time ago, the U.S. military
went away from morse code for fixed-point to fixed-point worldwide
networks. Morse was on the way OUT a half century ago. Now it is
almost absent, present only in the re-enactment of "pioneer days" by
hams who were never born in those pioneer days.

As for your "dishonor", it comes from your rantings in this forum wherein
you tried to embellish your own "career" by somehow trying to link it with

Army
KIA's that occured three years and 300 miles away.


Poor baby. Still ANGRY that I was a part of something and proud of it?

Why do you think (deep in your psychosis) that HONORING members
of one's own unit is "dishonoring" anything?

If you wish to say that the National Archives and Records
Administration "LIE" then that's your crazy distortion of reality.


I don't dispute your alleged MOS or that you were in Japan,
Lennie...Not by a mile.


Yes you do. My MOSs (plural) were NOT "alleged."

Why do you keep on with that manufactured dispute? It has no
place in this forum.

What I "dispute" is your cowardly attempts to link that service with the
guys in Korea.


What is "cowardly" about HONORING members of the 71st Signal
Service Battalion? I was a part of that Battalion.

Do you HATE the U.S. Army that much that you keep on saying
HONORS due Army members are really "dishonors?" That's crazy.

You just have a hard time seperating THEIR sacrifice from YOUR rantings.


Oh, my. Still the HATEFUL NURSIE. Speaking the New English:
"Honor is really dishonor." Tsk, tsk, tsk.

No, quoting myself. You are a NURSE. You ACT like a DILL
(not "drill") sergeant...one can see your pursed lips as you shout
emotion-filled orders, sour of mind, trying to chew out those who
don't agree with your opinions.


One can only "see" those things, Lennie, because in order for your rants
to work for you you HAVE to believe that's true.

It's not. It's a loss of continuity with reality on your part.


Now you are saying you are NOT a nurse? Oh, my, deceiving us all
these years!

Tsk. All the readers in here can see you ACT the "dill sergeant,"
trying to be the ruff, tuff, high honcho NCO lambasting the recruits.
Poor baby.

Other than being obnoxious and antagonistic, you have no commitment to
ANYthing, and I think that's what twists your shorts most about Amateur
Radio...everyday people doing things that you somehow think only YOU are
qualified to do.


Awwww....feeling ANGRY again that whatever you do isn't rewarded
with High Praise and Everlasting Love? :-)

I'm not concerned with what anyone does in their HOBBY. If they enjoy
it, fine, more power to them. Enjoy, enjoy!

So, why is there a morse code test in U.S. amateur radio...a HOBBY.

Why are you so adamant about retaining it? That test is becoming
worthless, an artifact from a bygone era. Even the FCC said (publicly)
that it doesn't serve their need in licensing amateurs.


Pander: "1. a procurer, pinp; 2. one who helps others satisfy their
vices." [dictionary definition]


And that's exactly what you are doing.

Pimping yourself as the embodiment of radio gratification.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

More psychological transference by NURSIE.

Too totally demented. :-)


Seek mental health counseling for your ANGER and OBSESSION,
NURSIE. It will help you and all around you.



Len Over 21 August 24th 04 04:10 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,



Other than being obnoxious and antagonistic, you have no commitment to
ANYthing, and I think that's what twists your shorts most about Amateur
Radio...everyday people doing things that you somehow think only YOU are
qualified to do.


NURSIE isn't an "everyday people." He a gunnery nurse, he a dill
instructor marching the maggots, he a hero with "seven hostile actions"
and he is da backbone of MARS regardless of what the DoD directs!

NURSIE think I not "qualified!" I not qualified for morsemanship in
amateur radio. I qualified for commercial radio, for military radio, in
fact any radio...receivers or transmittes, any frequency range up to
24 GHz. Been there, done that, several times over.


Not I. I'm just trying to influence the elimination of the morse code
test for any U.S. radio license.


No, you're not.

You're doing your "best" to be antagonistic.


Poor baby. I'm not even CLOSE to doing my wordsmithy "best"
in here. :-)


Ergo your actions here are meant to be nothing more than boil on Amateur
Radio.


Tsk, tsk. As the "medically certified healer" you should be able to
cure that boil. You haven't. Poor baby.

In that effort you are succeeding.


Poor NURSIE. All bent out of shape for not being loved and
respected like she so richly deserves?!? :-)

Relax, have a bite to eat. BOIL a three-minute egg...


The really great thing is that the "...kinds of pejorative personal
comments" are just icing on the cake. It hasn't taken much to let the air
out of most of your rantings, Lennie.


What "air out of anything" other than your shouting mouth? :-)

I haven't stopped. :-)


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Let NURSIE chew on the following:

NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in national politics to make any
balanced, objective informed opinion on national politics, yet
blithers on in here about that.


Sure I do.

I am a registered voter and have voted in every presidential and
congressional election since I turned 18. I missed some Ohio state elections
when overseas in 82 and 88. Oh well.


National politics is NOT a subject for this newsgroup...

NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in national economics to make
any balanced, objective informed opinion on economics, yet
blithers on in here about that.


Sure I do.

I pay taxes and have been involved in several state and local tax
propositions.


National economics is NOT a subject for this newsgroup...


Lennie, you're slathering all over the keyboard again! You've got your
short in such a twist you can't even keep your insults straight...! ! ! !

BBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! !
!
! ! !!


NURSIE understands NOT what this newsgroup is about...

NURSIE nuts.

NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in military communications
to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on military
radio, yet blithers on in here about that.


Sorry. Wrong.


NURSIE wrong. Not HF. Not big time comms. Tsk.

NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in commercial communications
to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on commercial
radio, yet blithers on in here about that.


I don't "blither on" in this forum about "commercial communications".


NURSIE too busy with bad hyena imitations to understand this
newsgroup concerns amateur RADIO. [that's all she knows...]


NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in aerospace and spaceflight
to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on space
subjects, yet blithers on in here about that.


And YOU do...?!?!


Yes. By at least two corporations: EOS in Pasadena (a Xerox
division) and Rocketdyne (then a division of Rockwell, later
purchased by Boeing). I'm not counting sub-contracting there,
don't have to...at a score of two to nothing agains the "team" of
NURSIE and "Quitefine," it is time to work the "Murphy Rule."


NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in magazine publishing on a
national scale to make any balanced, objective informed
opinion on anything in publishiing, yet blithers on in here
about that.


YOUR "experience" in "publishiing" was in a magazine that went toes-up
with you as an "associate editor.


Skip Tenney sold Ham Radio magazine after I quit them. HR had been
in independent monthly publishing for 22 years.

I'm not counting a few other non-radio-hobby related publications,
except that two of them involve personal computing.

Just an example of how much fun you can have with a radio in public,
Lennie.


Of course. You set the example. Act like an asshole and then play
like CB. Of course. Lotsa fun. You showed everyone how...

I've never said any such thing.

You're lying again, Lennie.


Tsk, tsk, TSK!

When confronted with what all readers have seen, NURSIE claims
he never said any such thing!!!!

NURSIE nuts.


I HAD respect for you at one time, but then you launched into the Nazi
rants.


Poor NURSIE. Family was in WW2 concentration camps?

NURSIE stationed in Germany after WW2? Was victim of "NAZI
oppression?" Must have been...


NURSIE has directly insulted Brian Burke of that in here.


He lent himself to it. Sorry. He should pay attention to what he
writes, how he wrties it, and whom he writes it about.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


You've just demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not a
trustworthy person.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.





Continue with your "non-profane" comments about "having a head
up the ass of another newsgroup enemy."

I have never mad a comment about "having a head up the ass of another
newsgroup enemy."


Incorrect. You've insulted Brian Burke of doing just that.


And so far, with your "rush to his rescue" rantings in this thread in the
last 24 hours, you've proven me ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


Unfortunately for you, any person doing the same for "Leonard H.

Anderson"
will only get the now-expired license information for a now-expired person.


Strange, twisted NURSIE. Wants all newsgroup opponents DEAD!

NURSIE need some mental therapy, is in a good place to get it.
She never avails herself of that. Tsk, tsk.

not a legal signature

Steve Robeson, K4CAP August 24th 04 11:35 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,


More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a
"military radio operator".


NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.


But never a radio OPERATOR.

HF transmitter with 1 KW or more, dozens of them.


But never a radio OPERATOR.

Microwave radio relay operations and maintenance supervisor.


But never a radio OPERATOR.

Twenty-four voice channel 1.8 GHz terminals made by GE.


Who cares if they were made by The Hand of God?

You were never a radio OPERATOR.

I didn't work for a "set top box maker", Lennie. The "company" I worked
for was a subsidiary. I was not an employee of ANTEC. You were told this
before, but still try to use it as a diminuitive.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Antec makes "set-top boxes." They say so, show so.

What, NURSIE do "volunteer work" for good of company?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wasn't an ANTEC employeee, Lennie. I worked for a subsidiary.

Sorry you have a problem with that, but have a good laugh...it IS
at your own expense.

NURSIE want to make "LIARS" out of Department of Defense, United
States Army, National Archives and Records Administration, and the
Pacific edition of Stars and Stripes military newspaper!

NURSIE also want to make a "LIAR" out of the private Korean War
website...and anyone else who can truthfully prove things.

NURSIE need to talk to the Barkers and tell them, in no uncertain
terms, that ANY honoring of Korean War dead is "dishonorable!"


But you don't honor them, Lennie.

You try to USE thier sacrifices in order to make yourself look
better in THIS forum.

It's got nothing to do with the Department of Defense.

It's got nothing to do with the Pacific Stars and Stripes or any
other veteran's organizations or websites.

It's about Leonard H. Anderson trying to use the sacrifices of
Soldiers who died in combat three years before he was even inducted in
order to somehow glorify his otherwise lackluster Army service in an
Amateur Radio newsgroup.

That in and of itself makes you a creep of unfathomable depth.


Psychological transference again. NURSIE look in mirror, try to
call others what she see in mirror. Tsk.

It's all on documents at NARA in St. Louis.


Not the parts you tried to push off on us here.


NARA has all my military experience documentation.


It's not about what was documented 50 years ago Lennie.

It's about your misdeeds in THIS forum.

I am sure you are sorry you got caught doing it, but you did.


"Sorry?"

I'm rather sorry to encounter such a nutso as yourself...but life
is like that.


I am sure you ARE sorry to have encountered me.

Really sucks to try and pull off the silly stuf you do in here
only to have someone who KNOWS BETTER to derail it for ya...

It's in the experiences of other hams such as Gene, N2JTV, who served
WITH me at the same time.


Too bad Gene didn't get a chance to read some of the cowardly crap you
pulled in here.


He still can if he bothers to look in from home in Long Island. :-)

I don't know why he would. Although he's been a REAL extra for a
long time, this forum's basic content is NURSIE shouting, hollering,
and yell-yelling at everyone else! As well as talking NATIONAL
POLITICS, THE ECONOMY, SPACE BUSINESS, and other
wonderful subjects where the "qualifications" require high-rate
morsemanship.


A "real" Extra?

Sheesh, Lennie, I've had mine for almost 24 years now. Doesn't
get much more real than that.

Your friend couldn't have had his any sooner than 1982 or 83,
judging by the callsign. His is not a vanity callsign, so it was
issued sequentially. The sequential system was introduced in 1978. I
have no idea how quickly the 1x3 block in 2-land filled up, but I
think its safe to say that N2JTV wasn't issued before 1983 or later.

It's even in the Pacific edition of the military newspaper Stars and
Stripes, in their 10 November 2002 edition...including six photos
that I took.


Whoopie doo.

Two pictures I took wound up in Naval Air News and that has a far wider
distribution that PacS&S. So give me a Pulitzer.


You keep giving your opponents a "Putziler."


You deserve it. You earned it. It fits.

Rest of LennieRant snipped. SOS.

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP August 24th 04 11:44 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


NURSIE think I not "qualified!" I not qualified for morsemanship in
amateur radio. I qualified for commercial radio, for military radio, in
fact any radio...receivers or transmittes, any frequency range up to
24 GHz. Been there, done that, several times over.


Great, Lennie.

Then why don't you expend your verbose antagonisms in a military
or commercial radio related newsgroup...?!?!

This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO.

It's very apparent that you are lost and refuse to look at a map
or stop and ask directions.

I bet that drives Mrs Lennie nuts.

NURSIE need some mental therapy, is in a good place to get it.
She never avails herself of that.


Still waiting on your credentials to make such a determination.

So far it's just an obvious shill to try and detract from the
black eyes you keep collecting in here.

Put some ice on it.

not a legal signature


No doubt.

Steve, K4YZ

(A real name and a real callsign)

William August 24th 04 05:46 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....

For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"

For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts.

Dee D. Flint August 24th 04 06:16 PM


"William" wrote in message
m...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message

...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....


Dues can hardly be considered compensation. It is perfectly legitimate to
cover the costs of repeater setup, maintenance and operations by charging
such dues. That does not violate the no compensation rule.

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....


Part 97 does not define how the exam is to be administered. It simply
requires a candidate to demonstrate a minimum level of proficiency but does
not define the testing method. By the way Farnsworth is Morse code.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Steve Robeson K4CAP August 24th 04 09:59 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 8/24/2004 12:16 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"William" wrote in message
om...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.

More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....


Dues can hardly be considered compensation. It is perfectly legitimate to
cover the costs of repeater setup, maintenance and operations by charging
such dues. That does not violate the no compensation rule.


Dee, it's just more evidence that Brain (a) doesn't understand that the
"dues" collected for the use of a repeater are for the use of the
machine....NOT for operating a radio.

The FCC has repeatedly stated that accepting funds to defray the cost of
the upkeep of a resource such as a repeater is absolutely legitimate.

Brain, like his mentor before him, convientiently dismiss or ignore FCC
rulings or regulations when it suits them.

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....


Part 97 does not define how the exam is to be administered. It simply
requires a candidate to demonstrate a minimum level of proficiency but does
not define the testing method. By the way Farnsworth is Morse code.


There is no such thing as a "Farnsworth" exam.

73

Steve, K4YZ






Len Over 21 August 24th 04 10:38 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.


More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.


Yell-yell will rationalize anything...

Maybe he was battered as a child?

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.


Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....


Mama Dee say dat okay.

Of course we gots da HRO stores making profit from ham radio...

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....


Mama Dee say dat ok too. She say Part 97 doesn't describe
hamexaminations. She wrongo. We spank Mama for boo-boo?

For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"


DoD ought to spank Yell-yell. :-)

For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts.


...or irrational...or whacko...or crazy...or an extra? :-)

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 August 24th 04 10:38 PM

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


NURSIE think I not "qualified!" I not qualified for morsemanship in
amateur radio. I qualified for commercial radio, for military radio, in
fact any radio...receivers or transmittes, any frequency range up to
24 GHz. Been there, done that, several times over.


Great, Lennie.

Then why don't you expend your verbose antagonisms in a military
or commercial radio related newsgroup...?!?!

This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO.


Then why have you discussed the SPACE BUSINESS at length
in here with another, neither one of you having ANY experience
in the space business?

It's very apparent that you are lost and refuse to look at a map
or stop and ask directions.


Tsk, tsk. I use maps all the time. MapQuest very handy for
trips. Available free over the Internet! Maps from AAA also free,
have an up-to-date collection (rather used) in the car. :-)

I bet that drives Mrs Lennie nuts.


Not at all. Why you mention wife? You like other guys' wives?

I'll bet that drives Mrs. Nursie nuts! :-)

NURSIE need some mental therapy, is in a good place to get it.
She never avails herself of that.


Still waiting on your credentials to make such a determination.


Still waiting for those "authorities" to show up and take me away
to be committed...that you said you could get with a simple phone
call.

Tsk, tsk. NURSIE not have authority...or guts to try it.

So far it's just an obvious shill to try and detract from the
black eyes you keep collecting in here.


What "black eyes," Diminutive Man?

My eyes are still blue, cute as ever. :-)

Go get some mental therapy, NURSIE. You have "qualifications"
to commit yourself.

You got NO authority to commit anyone else.





Len Over 21 August 24th 04 10:38 PM

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio

mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER

a
"military radio operator".


NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.


But never a radio OPERATOR.


Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on
frequency is OPERATING.

HF comms across Pacific would routinely do about 3 QSYs per
24 hour period. With at least 30 transmitters on-circuit 24/7 that
meant at least 10 QSYs per shift.

QSYs had to be fast to minimize circuit out time, were done in
under 3 minutes...more than half of which required frequency
standards at receiver site to confirm mark and space frequencies
for RTTY circuits.

Down-time reduction was important when monthly throughput of
messages averaged 220 thousand (1955).

HF transmitter with 1 KW or more, dozens of them.


But never a radio OPERATOR.


Yell-yell WRONGO again. See above.

Yell-yell not able to change final links on 15 KW Press Wireless
transmitter in time required. :-)

Microwave radio relay operations and maintenance supervisor.


But never a radio OPERATOR.


Not as AMATEUR operator, Yell-yell. Try to understand that 24/7
operations is NOT the same as AMATEUR fun and games. Serious
business to maximize up-time on circuits.

Twenty-four voice channel 1.8 GHz terminals made by GE.


Who cares if they were made by The Hand of God?


GE (General Electric Company) is NOT that religious...they just
made good radio and electronics equipment.

You were never a radio OPERATOR.


WRONGO again. Using an AN/PRC-6 HT or the manpack (we
called it "backpack" then) AN/PRC-8 most definitely involved
OPERATING...as close to the amateur idea of OPERATING but
without all the QSLs or the fish stories of DXCC awards. :-)


I wasn't an ANTEC employeee, Lennie. I worked for a subsidiary.

Sorry you have a problem with that, but have a good laugh...it IS
at your own expense.


Tsk, tsk, TSK! I never mentioned "ANTEC."

Doesn't matter...all you were was a purchasing agent, and for less
than half a year. NO work IN engineering, doing design or test.


NURSIE need to talk to the Barkers and tell them, in no uncertain
terms, that ANY honoring of Korean War dead is "dishonorable!"


But you don't honor them, Lennie.


Poor NURSIE, got the differences of HONOR and DISHONOR all
mixed up.

You try to USE thier sacrifices in order to make yourself look
better in THIS forum.


? NURSIE MANUFACTURED "dishonor."

It's got nothing to do with the Department of Defense.


Yes it does. U.S. Army part of Department of Defense. 71st
Signal Service Battalion was part of U.S. Army. I was in the 71st
as well as all those other soldiers of the 71st.

It's got nothing to do with the Pacific Stars and Stripes or any
other veteran's organizations or websites.


Tell that to all the military members and their dependents then.
Stars & Stripes military newspaper is published worldwide FOR
them.

Tell that to Hal and Ted Barker of the Korean War Project.

Tell them that they "dishonor" the Korean veterans by having that
website.

"Tell it to the Marines." :-)

It's about Leonard H. Anderson trying to use the sacrifices of
Soldiers who died in combat three years before he was even inducted in
order to somehow glorify his otherwise lackluster Army service in an
Amateur Radio newsgroup.


WRONGO again. Tsk. I wasn't "inducted." I was a volunteer.
That showed up on my Army Serial Number as the "RA" prefix.
Inductees got a "US" prefix on that ASN.

"Lackluster career?" I was assigned in a "rear area." Most battalions
serving an area command ARE in rear areas. Very few got a chance
to pick where they were going to be.

I never intended to make a "career" in the military. I would be drafted
soon anyway and took a personal step to volunteer. No problem.

"Lackluster?" Tsk, tsk. It was the opportunity for the radio-interested
to begin in BIG TIME communications. ACAN (Army Command and
Administrative Network) was worldwide, thousands of circuits, all
in operation 24/7. No hobby that, was military Big Business sort of
operations.


It's about your misdeeds in THIS forum.


Tsk, tsk. In Stevieland of Fantasy, a "misdeed" is TALKING BACK
to the gunnery nurse! :-)

Poor NURSIE, still smarting about being talked-back to! Tsk.

I am sure you ARE sorry to have encountered me.


Nah.

NURSIE just like all the other ego-boosting self-important
ignoramuses waving credientials and claiming smarts and self-
importance. Seen dozens just like her.

Really sucks to try and pull off the silly stuf you do in here
only to have someone who KNOWS BETTER to derail it for ya...


Okay, when I find one of those, I'll tell everyone who it is...

So far, I haven't found any that "knows better."

Hi hi and a Ho ho! :-)




Steve Robeson, K4CAP August 25th 04 02:32 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio

mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER

a
"military radio operator".

NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.


But never a radio OPERATOR.


Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on
frequency is OPERATING.


Oh, Cool.

You reached up and changed the channel.

THAT took skill.

HF comms across Pacific would routinely do about 3 QSYs per
24 hour period. With at least 30 transmitters on-circuit 24/7 that
meant at least 10 QSYs per shift.


Ahhhhh...You changed the channel three times a day.

Oooooooohhhhhhhh...NOW I am IMPRESSED!

But never a radio OPERATOR.


Yell-yell WRONGO again. See above.


Uh huh...So impressive...Changed the channel on the presets.

Try again, Sir Putzy.

Rest of usual muck and mayhem deleted. You started off stupid
and got worse (if that's possible)

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 25th 04 04:42 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 8/24/2004 4:38 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


NURSIE think I not "qualified!" I not qualified for morsemanship in
amateur radio. I qualified for commercial radio, for military radio,

in
fact any radio...receivers or transmittes, any frequency range up to
24 GHz. Been there, done that, several times over.


Great, Lennie.

Then why don't you expend your verbose antagonisms in a military
or commercial radio related newsgroup...?!?!

This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO.


Then why have you discussed the SPACE BUSINESS at length
in here with another, neither one of you having ANY experience
in the space business?


Because I am not the one who feels it necessary to go off on
"off-topic" rants and THEN chastise those participating in it fro having done
it!

Like YOU ! !

It's very apparent that you are lost and refuse to look at a map
or stop and ask directions.


Tsk, tsk. I use maps all the time. MapQuest very handy for
trips. Available free over the Internet! Maps from AAA also free,
have an up-to-date collection (rather used) in the car. :-)

I bet that drives Mrs Lennie nuts.


Not at all. Why you mention wife? You like other guys' wives?


Depends on if they like me.

I bet Mrs Lennie smells like Mr. Lennie, so not to worry.

I'll bet that drives Mrs. Nursie nuts!


Only if Mrs Lennie looks like Brittney Spears. (which I doubt hasn't been
an issue since...oh....1932...?!?!)

NURSIE need some mental therapy, is in a good place to get it.
She never avails herself of that.


Still waiting on your credentials to make such a determination.


Still waiting for those "authorities" to show up and take me away
to be committed...that you said you could get with a simple phone
call.

Tsk, tsk. NURSIE not have authority...or guts to try it.

So far it's just an obvious shill to try and detract from the
black eyes you keep collecting in here.


What "black eyes," Diminutive Man?


Ahhhhhh...blind. Guess you ahve one of those braile readers. Or do you
use voice simulations software?

My eyes are still blue, cute as ever.


Uhhhhhh....yeeeeah...Right.

Steve, K4YZ






Brian August 25th 04 08:46 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.

More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.


Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.


Yell-yell will rationalize anything...

Maybe he was battered as a child?


Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers.

Teribull batter.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.


Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.


He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....


Mama Dee say dat okay.


Dee say many thing. Sumptin she right, sumptin she wong.

Of course we gots da HRO stores making profit from ham radio...


But dey not get paid for transmitting. Control Op/rpeeter owner do.

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....


Mama Dee say dat ok too. She say Part 97 doesn't describe
hamexaminations. She wrongo. We spank Mama for boo-boo?


No spankin Dee. Mite make joy.

For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"


DoD ought to spank Yell-yell. :-)


Ott do more work rebiltating stoopid jerk.

For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts.


...or irrational...or whacko...or crazy...or an extra? :-)

LHA / WMD


Fruitcake.

Len Over 21 August 25th 04 11:07 PM

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio

mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were

NEVER
a
"military radio operator".

NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.

But never a radio OPERATOR.


Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on
frequency is OPERATING.


Oh, Cool.

You reached up and changed the channel.


WRONG!

Frequency synthesizers enabling channel-changing with ease did
not appear until the 1960s. [the first of which were the stepped
two-crystal-oscillator-bank mixed types for civil aviation] The
exact-frequency synthesizers for fixed-point HF broadcast did not
appear until about 1964.

A QSY at any ACAN station of the 1950s would involve at least 3
persons, two at a transmitter site, one at a receiver site using a
General Radio LF to HF precision frequency measuring instrument.
At ADA, Control at Chuo Kogyo (just outside of Camp Drake) would
issue the QSY order over the TTY order wire; both transmitters and
frequency standards at Receivers were on that loop. Receivers
"freq standards" would begin setting up for the new carrier frequency.

At transmitters, one operator disable the appropriate exciter, then
would go behind the many racks of exciters (O-5s at that time) and
get a crystal from the heated crystal cabinet (6 foot high, glass doors),
change the crystal in the exciter from the back. ADA did their own
crystal finishing. Frequencies were all given code names, for
nemonic convenience not secrecy...avoided accidental transposition
of numbers. Korean circuit frequency names were all given beer
brands...:-)

The other person at transmitters (if only for a 1 KW Tx, the big
PW-15s usually took two operators for safety) would key off the
separate transmitter, reset the adjustments to a chart (prepared by
maintenance specialists on the team), wait for the exciter man to
finish with his task. When RF was getting to the Tx, the Tx man
would tweak-tune the settings, paying close attention to neutralizing
the final (BC-339s had push-pull triode 833s in PA) in addition to
making sure the loading was good.

By that time, freq standards was set up and their freq meter's audio
would be fed into a reserved telephone circuit pair to transmitters.
We could hear it on the speakers. The trick chief would ask Control
for "fox test" on the TTY circuit ("The quick brown fox...etc." from one
of three such automatic cam-driven generators at Carriers in Chuo
Kogyo. Exciter man would zero beat on the Mark, engage keying
and set the "spread" (shift) in a double heterodyne of comparing the
850 cycle tone from Stds with a transmitter tone generator fixed at
850 cycles. Once that was set (all around the console could hear it)
the trick chief signalled over the order wire for Stds to check it.

Frequency Standards would do their final measure and report the
Mark and Space frequencies (if within tolerance) on the order wire
TTY. If something was drifting or the measures were out of tolerance,
Stds reported that, too, and we would have to tweak the exciter all
over again. [accepted RTTY spread back then was 850 Hz]

Maximum time to QSY for RF out at transmitters was under 2 minutes.
Total QSY time, including the Stds measurement and reporting, was
under 3 minutes. That included the large PW-15s (15 KW conservative
output) that had two 3-foot long copper segmented shorting bars (with
two long tightening screws) which "tapped" the huge final tank coil
windings.

The old pre-WW2 Western Electric SSB (12 KHz wide in the
"commercial" sideband arrangement containing four 3 KHz voice
bandwidth channels) was quite fussy and might take an extra
minute or two, including extra time at Stds to confirm frequencies.
The new Western Electric LD-T2 SSB was much better (one in
1953, four more arrived in 1955) in that 12 tuned circuits were all
servo-motor controlled from a bank of 120 potentiometers inside
that were preset to 10 "channels" or authorized carrier frequencies.
The LD-T2 was QSYed by walking up to it, operating two key
switches to disable output and modulation, pushing a "channel"
selector button, then waiting until the indicator light showed auto-
tuning was correct. Then the two key switches were returned to
normal transmit and the RF current meter on the antenna lines
checked. Took less than a minute to do that, took Stds a bit
longer to confirm the correct carrier frequency (pilot carrier in
mid-sideband).

THAT took skill.


It did for the SSB transmitters, including the LD-T2. Maintenance
on the teams had to reset the preset pots if a new frequency was
authorized. That required the same tuning-up was with a manual-
control Tx. The difference between that and the RTTY transmitters
was the requirement to check the audio quality for both level and
distortion.

The objective was MINIMUM DOWN TIME so as to keep the up-time
for actual message transmissions maximum. A typical SSB radio
circuit carried a voice order-wire channel, an overseas radiotelephone
voice channel, and 8 to 12 TTY channels, all on the same transmitter.
At least four of the RTTY radio circuits had time-multiplexed TTY to
carry up to four TTY channels; outage on one of those circuits was
multiplied four time.

HF comms across Pacific would routinely do about 3 QSYs per
24 hour period. With at least 30 transmitters on-circuit 24/7 that
meant at least 10 QSYs per shift.


Ahhhhh...You changed the channel three times a day.


WRONG. I wrote TEN times per shift...on the average. We would
do at least 8 on a calm-ionosphere work shift but could do as many
as 18 QSYs if the ionosphere was doing nonsense.

At the old transmitter site on Tsukushima, commercial Japanese
power was primary. That power was not consistent and any shift
might have to do a full recheck after cutting over to standby
generators (400 KWe minimum out of six motor-generator sets).
That meant EVERYTHING that was on-circuit had to be checked,
including poor Frequency Standards having to juggle their General
Radio instrument controls for every single radio circuit and reporting
it on the order-wire. The new site at Kashiwa (later renamed Camp
Tomlinson) had 600 KWe 24/7 motor-generators and did not rely on
Japanese electric power.

Oooooooohhhhhhhh...NOW I am IMPRESSED!


You should be, but then you've never been tasked with that sort of
job. It's easy for you push-button black-box changers to make fun
of manual control over nearly everything.

ADA did have "VFO" control through a couple of Northern Electric
tunable exciters, but nearly all the HF radios were crystal controlled,
TTY through SSB. The microwave radio relay terminals (arriving late
1954) were all crystal controlled at 1.8 GHz (!). Predecessors to the
uWave were TRC-1 VHF radio relay (FM, both Rx and Tx crystalled)
and TRC-8 UHF radio relay (FM, Tx crystal, Rx manually tuned).

Land forces HT radio, PRC-6, was crystal-controlled, no channel
changing possible. The backpack PRC-8 through -10, was actually
"VFO" on low VHF, manually tuned via a built-in crystal harmonic
calibrator. Surprisingly, the "PRC-8 family" was stable as well as
rugged, holding its locked manually-tuned frequency within spec.

But never a radio OPERATOR.


Yell-yell WRONGO again. See above.


Uh huh...So impressive...Changed the channel on the presets.


Only on the single WE LD-T2...but then I had to set up those presets
from the beginning. :-) The other 35 transmitters (besides the 8 that
were installed later, the new LD-T2 and the 40 KW Collins linear
amplifiers, all preset pretuned) were MANUAL tuning 7-foot high
transmitters.

A single Collins 1 KW Autotune transmitter was there for about a half
year, but used only for the FEC Commander's aircraft. That was
"traded" (?) with the USAF for a couple Wilcox HF transmitters with
the old brute-force AM power amps. The Wilcox Tx was interesting
in that it had 3 separate HF boxes, selectable by a switch. While
that might be taken as "channelization" those were fussy beasts and
had to be constantly checked if up; ADA later sent the RF part back
to the depot, keeping the big AM power amp and supply, marrying it
with a 1 KW BC-339 CW transmitter now becoming a 1 KW AM
radio circuit. That worked just fine and could also (like the lower
power truck mounted HF field radio) carry simultaneous TTY via
an FSK exciter.

Except for the post-WW2 WE Tx, GE microwave terminals, and
Northern Electric exciters, almost all of the equipment we used at
ADA was made on contract during WW2. That includes the VHF
and UHF radio relay equipment used when phone cables went
down. The two ancient WE SSB transmitters were built prior to
WW2. All tubes, nearly all manually operated.

Try again, Sir Putzy.

Rest of usual muck and mayhem deleted. You started off stupid
and got worse (if that's possible)


Tsk, tsk, tsk. I see that there's no possibily of your replying in a
"civil discourse" manner.

You continue to make fun of something you know absolutely nothing
of and won't take the trouble to find out. Not good.

NURSIE is SPOILED by modern, solid-state, frequency-synthesized
tune to any frequency with crystal stability ham equipment...and fine
military airborne equipment she never once had any responsibility for
designing or proving. Tsk.



Len Over 21 August 25th 04 11:07 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/24/2004 4:38 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

NURSIE think I not "qualified!" I not qualified for morsemanship in
amateur radio. I qualified for commercial radio, for military radio,

in
fact any radio...receivers or transmittes, any frequency range up to
24 GHz. Been there, done that, several times over.

Great, Lennie.

Then why don't you expend your verbose antagonisms in a military
or commercial radio related newsgroup...?!?!

This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO.


Then why have you discussed the SPACE BUSINESS at length
in here with another, neither one of you having ANY experience
in the space business?


Because I am not the one who feels it necessary to go off on
"off-topic" rants and THEN chastise those participating in it fro having done
it!

Like YOU ! !


NOPE. NURSIE do all the Yell-yell, then act the hypocrite and talk
about space business, national politics, the god-worshipping of Bush
and the damnation of Clinton and Kerry, and a host of OTHER
subjects which aren't even CLOSE to amateur radio policy matters.

It's very apparent that you are lost and refuse to look at a map
or stop and ask directions.


Tsk, tsk. I use maps all the time. MapQuest very handy for
trips. Available free over the Internet! Maps from AAA also free,
have an up-to-date collection (rather used) in the car. :-)

I bet that drives Mrs Lennie nuts.


Not at all. Why you mention wife? You like other guys' wives?


Depends on if they like me.

I bet Mrs Lennie smells like Mr. Lennie, so not to worry.


Tsk, tsk. NURSIE again trying left-handed insult to spouse.

Is that what modern American amateur radio has come to?

U.S. ham radio is all about INSULTS against those that aren't
licensed in the amateur radio hobby?

Why doesn't "Quitefine" jump in here with a lecture on manners?

Shall we all comment something nasty about Mrs. Nursie?

No. That would be acting like yourself, and that is a definite No-No.

Get some mental help for your obsessive hate and anger, NURSIE.

It will be better for all of us, including yourself.





Len Over 21 August 25th 04 11:52 PM

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.

More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.

Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.


Yell-yell will rationalize anything...

Maybe he was battered as a child?


Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers.

Teribull batter.


True. Maybe he was the subject of a new fast-food culinary
delight called "horn dog on a stick?" :-)

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.


Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.


He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions.


I tink dat why he not in da murines no mo'

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....


Mama Dee say dat okay.


Dee say many thing. Sumptin she right, sumptin she wong.


Noo noo. Always RIGHT, always right!

Of course we gots da HRO stores making profit from ham radio...


But dey not get paid for transmitting. Control Op/rpeeter owner do.


In dat case, at least one HRO store guilty... :-)

[that's the one that nursie went to but doesn't remember where
it is in any detail...:-) ]

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....


Mama Dee say dat ok too. She say Part 97 doesn't describe
hamexaminations. She wrongo. We spank Mama for boo-boo?


No spankin Dee. Mite make joy.


Ah so! :-)

For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"


DoD ought to spank Yell-yell. :-)


Ott do more work rebiltating stoopid jerk.


Donny R. otta writ a letter to VA.

For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts.


...or irrational...or whacko...or crazy...or an extra? :-)

LHA / WMD


Fruitcake.


From 1957 holiday season...

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 26th 04 09:42 AM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (Brian)
Date: 8/25/2004 2:46 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.

More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.

Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.


Yell-yell will rationalize anything...

Maybe he was battered as a child?


Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers.

Teribull batter.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.


Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.


He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions.


Brian, you took the first step, and I admire and appreciate that.

Now if we can get you to stop the baby-babble and Lenniesque insults,
we'll be at the point you said we can't be at.

73

Steve, K4YZ






William August 26th 04 12:01 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand
behind his opinions.

More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.

Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.

Yell-yell will rationalize anything...

Maybe he was battered as a child?


Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers.

Teribull batter.


True. Maybe he was the subject of a new fast-food culinary
delight called "horn dog on a stick?" :-)


I saw he once at circus. He funny clown dog like elephant leg too much.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.

Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.


He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions.


I tink dat why he not in da murines no mo'


Dey not ged his medesin right. Dey never ged it right.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....

Mama Dee say dat okay.


Dee say many thing. Sumptin she right, sumptin she wong.


Noo noo. Always RIGHT, always right!


When mamma not happy, nowone happy.

Of course we gots da HRO stores making profit from ham radio...


But dey not get paid for transmitting. Control Op/rpeeter owner do.


In dat case, at least one HRO store guilty... :-)

[that's the one that nursie went to but doesn't remember where
it is in any detail...:-) ]


Anoder bad medesin day?

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....

Mama Dee say dat ok too. She say Part 97 doesn't describe
hamexaminations. She wrongo. We spank Mama for boo-boo?


No spankin Dee. Mite make joy.


Ah so! :-)


Who nose?

For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"

DoD ought to spank Yell-yell. :-)


Ott do more work rebiltating stoopid jerk.


Donny R. otta writ a letter to VA.


He busy maken peeramid wid nekked prisoners.

For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts.

...or irrational...or whacko...or crazy...or an extra? :-)

LHA / WMD


Fruitcake.


From 1957 holiday season...


Too crunchee.

Len Over 21 August 26th 04 09:01 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke

misrepresenting
his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to

stand
behind his opinions.

More transference. NURSIE doesn't pay much attention to his
emotional outbursts in here...says he "never said such a thing"
after he said it. Strange.

Of course; he lies. But since he's nuts he's not responsible for his
actions.

Yell-yell will rationalize anything...

Maybe he was battered as a child?

Tempura best. Corn flour second best. He rolled in tar den fethers.

Teribull batter.


True. Maybe he was the subject of a new fast-food culinary
delight called "horn dog on a stick?" :-)


I saw he once at circus. He funny clown dog like elephant leg too much.

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.

Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.

He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions.


I tink dat why he not in da murines no mo'


Dey not ged his medesin right. Dey never ged it right.

For instance, when Part 97 says you cannot take compensation for
amateur radio, then a repeater owner charges dues....

Mama Dee say dat okay.

Dee say many thing. Sumptin she right, sumptin she wong.


Noo noo. Always RIGHT, always right!


When mamma not happy, nowone happy.

Of course we gots da HRO stores making profit from ham radio...

But dey not get paid for transmitting. Control Op/rpeeter owner do.


In dat case, at least one HRO store guilty... :-)

[that's the one that nursie went to but doesn't remember where
it is in any detail...:-) ]


Anoder bad medesin day?

For instance, when Part 97 specifies only a Morse Code exam can
satisfy element 1, and the VEC's administer Farnsworth exams....

Mama Dee say dat ok too. She say Part 97 doesn't describe
hamexaminations. She wrongo. We spank Mama for boo-boo?

No spankin Dee. Mite make joy.


Ah so! :-)


Who nose?

For instance, when a poster states, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio!"

DoD ought to spank Yell-yell. :-)

Ott do more work rebiltating stoopid jerk.


Donny R. otta writ a letter to VA.


He busy maken peeramid wid nekked prisoners.

For instance, when a poster behaves insanely, I call him nuts.

...or irrational...or whacko...or crazy...or an extra? :-)

LHA / WMD

Fruitcake.


From 1957 holiday season...


Too crunchee.


Mebbe NURSIE like dat. After so long refusing to eat crow (after being
presented with sumptuous meals of it regularly), he might like something
crunchee...maybe with a side of kimchee...? :-)

Tsk. "Quitefine" ought to jump in here and do Lecture thing...must be
too busy with "affairs of state" like presidential politics, information
infrastructure, national economy, space business, etc.

Das robust oberst is waiting in the wings, machine gun loaded with
blanks...

NURSIE still in fantasyland giving his phantasms high-fives for "hitting
nails on heads." NURSIE should have been at Golgotha..."Cross your
legs, we have only three nails..." :-)



Len Over 21 August 26th 04 09:01 PM

In article ,
(gunnery nurse Yell-yell when the bands are down) writes:

Because I do have convictions I receive a lot of flack from Yell DMC.

Yell-yell be da dill sergeant still. He obsessed wid it.


He stoopid jerk. It OK. He not sponsible for he actions.


Brian, you took the first step, and I admire and appreciate that.

Now if we can get you to stop the baby-babble and Lenniesque insults,
we'll be at the point you said we can't be at.


NURSIE still trying to play back-pedal, doesn't understand...

NURSIE not understand language "simplified" so that NURSIE can
understand it...and not laugh at others' intellects even though she
has so little. :-)





William August 27th 04 12:59 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio

mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were

NEVER
a
"military radio operator".

NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.

But never a radio OPERATOR.

Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on
frequency is OPERATING.


Oh, Cool.

You reached up and changed the channel.


WRONG!


He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 27th 04 04:15 AM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (William)
Date: 8/26/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...


You reached up and changed the channel.


WRONG!


Not "wrong", but you go right on ahead and tell us aaaaaaaaaaall about
those big radios, Lennie...Take us back to those blamy Asian nights, Lennie,
and tell us aaaaaaaaaaaaall about those radios and how THEY have ANYTHING to do
with AMATEUR RADIO in the 21st Century.

He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.


Nothing is as simple as you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ






William August 27th 04 12:00 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/26/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...


You reached up and changed the channel.

WRONG!


Not "wrong", but you go right on ahead and tell us aaaaaaaaaaall about
those big radios, Lennie...Take us back to those blamy Asian nights, Lennie,
and tell us aaaaaaaaaaaaall about those radios and how THEY have ANYTHING to do
with AMATEUR RADIO in the 21st Century.


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.

He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.


Nothing is as simple as you, Brain.


You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 27th 04 12:31 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (William)
Date: 8/27/2004 6:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.

You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.



You have the guts to write like this then suggest that I need help...?!?!

Like I said...You and Lennie are your own worst enemies.

Steve, K4YZ






Len Over 21 August 27th 04 06:24 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,


(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,



More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio

mechanic.

That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were

NEVER
a
"military radio operator".

NOT "mechanic," Diminutive Man.

Fixed station operations and maintenance supervisor.

But never a radio OPERATOR.

Yes, I was. QSYing a transmitter and making sure it stays on
frequency is OPERATING.

Oh, Cool.

You reached up and changed the channel.


WRONG!


He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.


Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.

NURSIE spoiled by modern synthesized ham rigs...just dial in the
frequency on the display and that's that. No final to tweak from the
front panel, could have an automatic antenna tuner to do antenna
matching without any manual controls (except to turn on the auto-
tuning). That's called "operating" by those lazy PCTA extras...?

NURSIE doesn't want to hear it. He is upset, still angry, still
hurting from long-past newsgroup "battles." Tsk, tsk.

NURSIE is big CAP air ace, a Dr. Strangelove at hospital ER, both
vital attributes in amateur radio.

Now we have Quitebad and BVD as anonymous cretins lurking in
the dark shadows. More good examples of modern U.S. amateur
radio.

Robust oberst got a new monocle, still sees things angrily, tries to
shout down the NCTA...wants to "see papers" of newsgroup
people. Oberst Heil not demand "papers" of BVD or Quitbad...or
of Leo or you or any other name he can remember. :-)

Rev. Jimmie is making like interviewing for Washington Post or
U.S. News & World Report with long, lonnng, lonnnnnng posts on
all things NOT amateur radio. Hope he gets new job...national
politics, economy, etc., needs injection of morsemanship to bring
back the good old days of the past.

Coslo is hanging in there, trying to play both sides but keeps getting
tossed in penalty box for sticking. He should get a copy of Dave
Barry's new book, "Boogers Are My Beat" to learn about humor.

NURSIE rehashes old anger in usual obsessive fashion, trying for
one-upmanship but his ship never gets out of dry-dock. Poor
NURSIE, still bent out of shape so far that a 10-ton hydraulic press
can't get him straight.

Modern American amateur radio on display in all its PCTA gory.

Makes one want to get that ham license "more than anything else
in the world?" On morse code, Jimmie once intoned (in an attempt
at "with-it" humor), "Try it, you'll like it!" Hardly.

MIghty macho morsemen these PCTA extras, all with the Double
Standard banner of self-righteousness...and now beginning to hide
in anonymity, their courage depleted. Tsk.



William August 27th 04 11:01 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.


His emotional status peaks and dips at least 3 times each day. But he
doesn't control it. It's on autopilot.

Pass the plate and maybe we can get him some help.

Len Over 21 August 28th 04 01:46 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/26/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...


You reached up and changed the channel.

WRONG!


Not "wrong", but you go right on ahead and tell us aaaaaaaaaaall about
those big radios, Lennie...Take us back to those blamy Asian nights,

Lennie,
and tell us aaaaaaaaaaaaall about those radios and how THEY have ANYTHING

to do
with AMATEUR RADIO in the 21st Century.


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.


NURSIE not use a single one of them.

Sunnuvagun!

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.


NURSIE is *CREDENTIALED* amateur extra, knows ALL about
amateur radio physics!

Him very smarts, can "operate" with credential next to [censored]!

He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.


Nothing is as simple as you, Brain.


You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.


True. NURSIE very simple but have complex problem.

Things are looking up, though, NURSIE are learning how to "dial
authorities" to put "enemies" in asylums! :-)

NURSIE say he gonna do it...now he gonna learn how...

Stay tuned to this CHANNEL for the latest development from that
very dark darkroom of nursie's...



Len Over 21 August 28th 04 01:46 AM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.


His emotional status peaks and dips at least 3 times each day. But he
doesn't control it. It's on autopilot.


He's a big ace in CAP, remember? Knows ALL about piloting cuz'
he got a FAA *CREDENTIAL!* :-)


Pass the plate and maybe we can get him some help.


Not me. NURSIE hasn't finished his big, big plate of CROW yet.

Why he not finish?

Maybe he's all tired out from those "seven hostile actions?"

Or trying to tell the DoD that MARS IS amateur radio?

Or trying to tell all that amateur radios work by different
physics than those in other radio services?

Those are mind-boggling superhuman tasks he undertook.
He be amateur undertaker......dig? :-)



William August 28th 04 11:38 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/27/2004 6:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.

You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.



You have the guts to write like this then suggest that I need help...?!?!

Like I said...You and Lennie are your own worst enemies.

Steve, K4YZ


Why little Yell Yell man no can stay on subjek? How dey Army radios
not like amateur radios? Huh? Huh? How you change frequency in
tube-type twansmitter?

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 28th 04 02:33 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (William)
Date: 8/28/2004 5:38 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/27/2004 6:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.

You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.



You have the guts to write like this then suggest that I need

help...?!?!

Like I said...You and Lennie are your own worst enemies.

Steve, K4YZ


Why little Yell Yell man no can stay on subjek? How dey Army radios
not like amateur radios? Huh? Huh? How you change frequency in
tube-type twansmitter?


If you'd care to ask the question like a man, you MIGHT get an answer.

Of course you DID act like one for a few hours the other day and I think
it scared you,

Not that it takes much, I see.

Steve, K4YZ








Steve Robeson K4CAP August 28th 04 04:04 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 8/27/2004 12:24 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:


He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.


Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.


Not true, but go right ahead and think it if it makes you feel better.

NURSIE is big CAP air ace, a Dr. Strangelove at hospital ER, both
vital attributes in amateur radio.


Speaking of which, Lennie...Hope you have a sense of humor about your next
trip to the ER...Ask yourself if any of those folks in scrubs knows me...Or
better yet, have been warned about you, as they put that IV in and start to
hang bags of fluid and push drugs...

Remeber... that's the last thing Timothy McVeigh saw....

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP August 28th 04 04:10 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 8/27/2004 7:46 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.


His emotional status peaks and dips at least 3 times each day. But he
doesn't control it. It's on autopilot.


He's a big ace in CAP, remember? Knows ALL about piloting cuz'
he got a FAA *CREDENTIAL!*


Hmmmmmmmm...Not all about it, but more than you.

Pass the plate and maybe we can get him some help.


Not me. NURSIE hasn't finished his big, big plate of CROW yet.


For what?

Proving that you are a liar?

No crow to eat there.

Why he not finish?


Because YOU keep lying.

Maybe he's all tired out from those "seven hostile actions?"

Or trying to tell the DoD that MARS IS amateur radio?

Or trying to tell all that amateur radios work by different
physics than those in other radio services?


And there was a PRIME example.

You continue to make this assertion.

I've never said it. You've been asked to prove otherwise.

You can't.

Leonard H. Anderson = Pathological Liar. Again.

Steve, K4YZ








Len Over 21 August 28th 04 08:20 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/27/2004 12:24 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:


He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.


Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.


Not true, but go right ahead and think it if it makes you feel better.

NURSIE is big CAP air ace, a Dr. Strangelove at hospital ER, both
vital attributes in amateur radio.


Speaking of which, Lennie...Hope you have a sense of humor about your next
trip to the ER...Ask yourself if any of those folks in scrubs knows me...Or
better yet, have been warned about you, as they put that IV in and start to
hang bags of fluid and push drugs...


Wow! Isn't NURSIE in a dark, dark mood this year.

Last time before last I was in an ER was in Wisconsin, near
Fontana, accompanying my wife in 2000. Maybe it was my
imagination, but I seem to remember a shrine next to the lobby,
featuring a 5' x 8' color photo of a scowling fiftysomething wearing
a flight suit. No name below it other than (in gold letters) the
phrase "We Will Never Forget..." about a foot high.

The folks wearing scrubs couldn't remember "The Unknown
Nurse," hero of medicine and savior of amateur radio.

How quickly they forget...

The last time I was in an ER was at St. Joseph's in Burbank, my
mother moved from the nursing home with a life-threatening blood
clot. That was in early 2001 and she died four days later.

Now, in the press of things then, I didn't ask around either ER or
on the "terminal floor" to find out if anyone knew of you, in scrubs
or in uniform. I did call down just now to ask (it's a local call) if
anyone "knew of you."

Apparently no one did. [response over the phone was (edited)
"what the #$%^!!! are you talking about?!?!?"]

Fame is fleeting.

Toss it in the Sharps on your way out the door...


Remeber... that's the last thing Timothy McVeigh saw....


"Remeber" to turn on your spell-checker before hitting "Return."

You seem to forget doing that way too much. Tsk.

Now keep stirring that mix with ammonium nitrate and keep working
that rare DX on HF with CW...folks will "remeber you" lots... :-)



Len Over 21 August 28th 04 08:20 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/27/2004 6:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.

You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.


You have the guts to write like this then suggest that I need

help...?!?!

Like I said...You and Lennie are your own worst enemies.

Steve, K4YZ


Why little Yell Yell man no can stay on subjek? How dey Army radios
not like amateur radios? Huh? Huh? How you change frequency in
tube-type twansmitter?


NURSIE know not of other radio, especially military, only amateur.

Pity that considering the first fielded application of the Collins Radio
T-195, with Bruene detector for automatic antenna tuning, was done
under a USMC contract in the early 1950s. :-)

Made QSYs very easy, USMC radio ops didn't have to think as
much...that thread apparently kept on evolving until it got to the
"no-brain" channel-changing stuff of yesterday's murine. :-)

[ Kellie...U.S. jeeps had been converted to 28 VDC by then, unlike
the 6 VDC of WW2 times...:-) ]

I never got to play with the new AN/GRC-19 with that automatic
antenna tuner, just saw a demonstration in the Fall of 1955. Most
impressive.

I was equally impressed the first time I played with the AN/PRC-104,
today's land-forces manpack HF transceiver. It too has an auto-
matic antenna tuner...in a little to-the-right-side box next to the R/T
in that battery-powered 20 W rig designed and made by Hughes
Aircraft Ground Systems. Uses little magnetic latching relays in
a binary-sequence switching of capacitors and inductors. The
mismatch detector is on the same principle of the Bruene magnitude
and phase detector of the old T-195 and in many amateur HF antenna
autotuners. PRC-104 is entirely solid-state, has nearly 20 years of
service in the U.S. military, proving the basic design is long-lasting.

Of course, for today's U.S. land forces, the main small-unit (company
and smaller size) communications radio is the AN/PRC-119 family
(known by NURSIE's hated name of SINCGARS)...VHF, full
CommSec features plus FHSS capability...excellent for communication
security in the field. A quarter million SINCGARS transceivers built
and fielded since 1989 and NURSIE never operated a single one of
them. Sunnuvagun!

But, for the HF radio equipment operators of the 1950s, using radios
of WW2 and before, every operation was MANUAL, none of that
"channel changing" alleged by those who never tweaked a military
comm radio during any of their "hostile actions." :-)

NURSIE doesn't want to hear any of that...it detracts from his ranting.
His "operating skill" consists mainly of emotional shouting and yelling
about "expertise in fine-tuning receivers" and such as he's read in
QST (a "technical journal" of interest to Archaic Radiotelegraphy
Relay League members).



William August 29th 04 02:00 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/27/2004 7:46 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.

His emotional status peaks and dips at least 3 times each day. But he
doesn't control it. It's on autopilot.


He's a big ace in CAP, remember? Knows ALL about piloting cuz'
he got a FAA *CREDENTIAL!*


Hmmmmmmmm...Not all about it, but more than you.


Sad how guys like you crash airplanes every day.

Pass the plate and maybe we can get him some help.


Not me. NURSIE hasn't finished his big, big plate of CROW yet.


For what?


For being stupid, and then for being too stupid to back out of
numerous assinine assertions that are clearly assinine.

Yet you will assert your assinine assertions until your dying day.

It's all a part of your being stupid and assinine.

Proving that you are a liar?


No. Simply your lies, and your stupid and assinine assertions.

No crow to eat there.


They aren't starlings!!!

You got a big bunch of crow to eat.

Why he not finish?


Because YOU keep lying.


You keep lying.

Maybe he's all tired out from those "seven hostile actions?"

Or trying to tell the DoD that MARS IS amateur radio?

Or trying to tell all that amateur radios work by different
physics than those in other radio services?


And there was a PRIME example.

You continue to make this assertion.

I've never said it. You've been asked to prove otherwise.


Yet you claim that tuning a military tube transmitter is substantially
different from tuning an amateur transmitter because you deny that
military radio experience is substantially different than amateur
experience.

In a sense, that is correct. Military radio experience is superior to
amateur radio experience. Except in Kelly's unique case.

But you choose to downgrade it.

Your loss, because you're an idiot.

You can't.


You can't... tune a tube type transmitter.

Leonard H. Anderson = Pathological Liar. Again.

Steve, K4YZ


Universal Truth: Steve Robeson = Whacko!

William August 29th 04 02:09 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/26/2004 6:59 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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You reached up and changed the channel.

WRONG!

Not "wrong", but you go right on ahead and tell us aaaaaaaaaaall about
those big radios, Lennie...Take us back to those blamy Asian nights,

Lennie,
and tell us aaaaaaaaaaaaall about those radios and how THEY have ANYTHING

to do
with AMATEUR RADIO in the 21st Century.


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.


NURSIE not use a single one of them.

Sunnuvagun!


He berry berry inexperience! But he OK at blowing smoke up peeple
skert. Odders buying it. I donot.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.


NURSIE is *CREDENTIALED* amateur extra, knows ALL about
amateur radio physics!

Him very smarts, can "operate" with credential next to [censored]!


He's head up he's {censored}!

He tink it like chanjin da channel on he CB. Not so simpel.

Nothing is as simple as you, Brain.


You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.


True. NURSIE very simple but have complex problem.


Like single cell organism berry simpel. Till it make you dierehea.

Things are looking up, though, NURSIE are learning how to "dial
authorities" to put "enemies" in asylums! :-)


Oooooh! He impotent!

NURSIE say he gonna do it...now he gonna learn how...


Messessity mudder of all invenchun.

Stay tuned to this CHANNEL for the latest development from that
very dark darkroom of nursie's...


Pwobby got video.

William August 29th 04 02:19 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/28/2004 5:38 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(William)
Date: 8/27/2004 6:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Len, I not know dey use bad radios in Army. Vewwy vewwy bad radios.

Fisics vewwy vewwy different fo amateur radio. Army radio not apply
at all to radio knowledge. Bad radios.

You pwobem very complex. Cannot solve youself. Muss get help.


You have the guts to write like this then suggest that I need

help...?!?!

Like I said...You and Lennie are your own worst enemies.

Steve, K4YZ


Why little Yell Yell man no can stay on subjek? How dey Army radios
not like amateur radios? Huh? Huh? How you change frequency in
tube-type twansmitter?


If you'd care to ask the question like a man, you MIGHT get an answer.

Of course you DID act like one for a few hours the other day and I think
it scared you,

Not that it takes much, I see.

Steve, K4YZ


Yu get so hang up on my eeglish as secund languige. Juss getovaer it
an be gwonup fo chang. I know hard fo yu. Yu twy sumtiem maebbe yu
optoit. Hi, hi stupi jerk!

So yo nebber tune gunjeen twansmetter? Yu kno nuttin but yu gotta be
bigshot alla time an say gotta be diffent dan ham radio. Hab no
simmirarity watsoebber.

Ptui!

Hi hi stupi jerk!

Quitefine August 29th 04 02:21 AM

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

NURSIE think I not "qualified!" I not qualified for morsemanship in
amateur radio.


FCC thinks you are
not qualified for any
mode in amateur radio.

I qualified for commercial radio, for military radio, in
fact any radio...


No, not any radio. Not
amateur radio of any
kind.



Steve Robeson, K4CAP August 29th 04 04:22 AM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

NURSIE know not of other radio, especially military, only amateur.


Not true, but one again you try to divert from the true
subject...Your lack of knowledge and experience of Amateur
practice...Not to mention this IS an AMATEUR RADIO forum.

NURSIE doesn't want to hear any of that...it detracts from his ranting.
His "operating skill" consists mainly of emotional shouting and yelling
about "expertise in fine-tuning receivers" and such as he's read in
QST (a "technical journal" of interest to Archaic Radiotelegraphy
Relay League members).


Don't want to hear WHAT? Your 15,354th telling of stories from
1950's era Army radio...No, I don't. It's was "interesting" the first
couple of times around, but it's now tedious and lackluster.

And unlike you, I exist in the 21st Century.

The one "archaic" HERE IS YOU, Lennie. Can't seem to get out of
the rut, and you'll ALWAYS be a day late and a dollar short when it
comes to Amateur Radio and 21st Century radio.

Had you been able to make that transition in your "professional"
career, maybe you wouldn't have made another career trying to
"impress" the "unwashed masses" with your "superior intellect" in this
forum.

You're a loser, Anderson. Always have been, always will be.

It really is THAT simple.


Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson K4CAP August 29th 04 02:15 PM

Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From: (William)
Date: 8/28/2004 8:00 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Back at Ya, NURSIE
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 8/27/2004 7:46 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Poor NURSIE...never "peaked the grid and dipped the plate" like in
the old days.

His emotional status peaks and dips at least 3 times each day. But he
doesn't control it. It's on autopilot.

He's a big ace in CAP, remember? Knows ALL about piloting cuz'
he got a FAA *CREDENTIAL!*


Hmmmmmmmm...Not all about it, but more than you.


Sad how guys like you crash airplanes every day.


Oh?

Gee, Brain...I finished my Private checkride in August 1974. That's over
30 years without so much as a flat tire in an airplane that I have been
pilot-in-command of.

To what were you refering?

Pass the plate and maybe we can get him some help.

Not me. NURSIE hasn't finished his big, big plate of CROW yet.


For what?


For being stupid, and then for being too stupid to back out of
numerous assinine assertions that are clearly assinine.

Yet you will assert your assinine assertions until your dying day.

It's all a part of your being stupid and assinine.

Proving that you are a liar?


No. Simply your lies, and your stupid and assinine assertions.

No crow to eat there.


They aren't starlings!!!

You got a big bunch of crow to eat.

Why he not finish?


Because YOU keep lying.


You keep lying.


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

What a card, Brain! Sheesh...bet ya had to back up and get a run at that,
didn't ya..?!?!

Maybe he's all tired out from those "seven hostile actions?"

Or trying to tell the DoD that MARS IS amateur radio?

Or trying to tell all that amateur radios work by different
physics than those in other radio services?


And there was a PRIME example.

You continue to make this assertion.

I've never said it. You've been asked to prove otherwise.


Yet you claim that tuning a military tube transmitter is substantially
different from tuning an amateur transmitter because you deny that
military radio experience is substantially different than amateur
experience.


Amateur Radio APPLICATION IS different that military applicaitons,
Brain.

Your bunk buddy wanted us to think he was some great "radio operator" for
the Army in the 1950's.

He was nothing more than a rear area radio clerk...At BEST a "radio
mechanic"

In a sense, that is correct. Military radio experience is superior to
amateur radio experience. Except in Kelly's unique case.

But you choose to downgrade it.

Your loss, because you're an idiot.


It's not MY loss, Brain.

I was NCOIC of an HF net control station on Okinawa. Contrary to Lennie's
assertions otherwise, I HAVE spent time doing military communications.

I know what Lennie did...It did not require any "skill" in order to "work"
stations. They pointed or selected the antenna of choice, chose the frequency
most likely supported by the MUF for that time of day, and

I have also spent 32 years in Amateur Radio.

You can't.


You can't... tune a tube type transmitter.


Sure I can.

Care to see...!?!?

Oh wait...you said you don't want to be anywhere NEAR me...

Ooooops. Guess you lose. But you DO get an extra 25 NF messaging points
for SPELLING "tube" correctly. Or did Lennie help you with that?

Leonard H. Anderson = Pathological Liar. Again.


Universal Truth: Steve Robeson = Whacko!


I am sure you wished it was true.

Steve, K4YZ







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