Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Steve Robeson K4CAP)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:58 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/16/2004 4:15 PM Central Standard Time
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He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur
Bands

K4CAP: What "other country", Brian?

Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

What "other country", Brian?

Whatever other country that Len might happen to be in.

I've not said a single word about another country's "rules and regs of
amateurism".

You said, "OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands"

Len gets to decide what other countries. Then you have to
provide the rules that deny him access.

The context of the posts were directly related to your mentor's lack
of
legal authorization to emit RF inside or outside of the US Amateur Radio
bands.
(Certain FCC exceptions to authorized unlicensed operation not
withstanding).

(Such as the Part 15 and Part 95 devices that I rubbed your nose in,
notwithstanding?)

Waiting for you to show us where you got the "another country's"
business
from. I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Sound's like brick is coming my way.

The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get far
less stuff thrown back at you.

I'll make sure my wife is prepared for terrorism.

I am sure she's prepared every night that you're next to her, Brian.

As for the rest of the post, you still aren't making sense (not that THAT
is unusual).

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United States.

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/19/2004 2:07 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open for Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/18/2004 6:10 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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I say you just shot your mouth off without thinking.

Sound's like brick is coming my way.

The "brick" is your own stupid assertions, Brian. If you'd do a bit
of
thoughtful and careful THINKING before you hit the "SEND" key, you'd get
far
less stuff thrown back at you.

What are you talking about?

So far I have no bricks through my window, no tires slashed, and my
wife and kids have experienced no terrorism. You're the only one
saying that I've "shot my mouth off."

No, I'm not.

You're not paying attention.

But you "predict" the bricks, etc, are coming.

Everytime you make stupid assertions and then have to eat them, Brian.

"Outside" the US Amateur Bands does not mean outside of the United
States.

Why not?

Also, do radio waves respect international boundaries???

If you're TRYING to look foolish, Brian, you've done a good job.

And as of today, Lennie still does not have a license to operate
INSIDE
the Amateur Bands (of ANY country). Nor does he have a license to transmit
OUTSIDE the US Amateur Bands without an FCC issued station license. (As a
US
Citizen, a foreign license of ANY nature is useless in the United States
except
as a keepsake for Lennie...)

73

Steve, K4YZ

There are lots and lots and lots of JA's with HK2 and KH6 licenses.
Why is it not possible that Len has a Japanese or Mexican or UK
license?

Maybe he has a UK license and is licensed to operate in the MF bands
where the U.S. Amateur Radio Service has no authorizations.

You need to brush up on your foreign amateur radio rules before
shooting off your mouth again.

You need to know AMERICAN law, Brian. We are, afterall, discussing an
American citizen operating from American soil.

Lennie may very well have one each of the licenses you cited. Who cares?
They are as useful to him on US Amateur allocations as his GROL is.

So Sayeth the FCC.

Not a one of them is any good to him in the United States except as a keep
sake...Just as I said before.

So Sayeth the FCC.

The "home" license of the nations you cited above are only good in the
United States when used by the foreign operator, and only under specific
limitations. And even when the foreign license is used for basis of reciprocal
operating privileges, the foreign operator must obey American subbands.

So Sayeth the FCC.

If the foreign operator takes and passes an American license, s/he must
comply with the limits of THAT license, even if it grants fewer priviledges
than his/her original license. They cannot (legally) switch between "Kx6xxx"
on one occasion then "K6/xx9xxx" in order to exceed the priviledges granted.

So Sayeth the FCC.

An American citizen with a foreign Amateur license cannot use that license
on US soil or from US administered territories.

So Sayeth the FCC.

Now...try to stop being an idiot, Brian, and try to focus on reality. I
know it will be tough, but I know you can do it...You've done it (however
briefly) before.

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(William) writes:


Try disagreeing with Len about the Morse
Code test issue, and see how he behaves.

I may soon pull a Cecil. We'll see how that goes over with Len.

We doubt that Len will accept
your change of mind with respect.

Go to his website and read about the war.

Is that an order?

It wasn't meant to be.

It was worded as an order.

Maybe if I had said, "If you don't show me proof that you've read
about "the war" within 24 hours, prepare to have yourself branded a
LIAR forever and ever (which you are anyway)!!!"

What are you going on about, Brian?

Do you like that kind of gentle direction?

Why not simply write:

"I suggest you check out
his website..."

Me either.

Very insightful (or should
it be inciteful?).

Oversimplified and myopic.

http://www.kh2d.net/

Which war?

OK, click on the link, then opinions, then "What's Wrong with..."

KH2D is overfocused on a few narrow
interests in amateur radio. He cannot
see the antenna farm for the guy wires.

Most radio amateurs that we have
encountered are neither clueless
newbies nor brain-dead old farts.

There are a few who fit his
descriptions, but only a few.

He says that the "nocoders"
"won the war".

We think you would be happy
about that. But you do not
project joy or happiness.

Why?

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (Quitefine)
Date: 9/12/2004 8:39 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.

I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.

He's not "AUTHORIZED" to emit RF OUTSIDE the U. S. Amateur Bands as
a
civilian, either, except under the auspices of someone else's STATION
LICENSE.

So sayeth the FCC.

Or under Part 95 regulations, which
require no special training or experience.

Your opinion on the issue does not matter.

Only becasue his "opinion" is usually NOT based upon practical
experience
or facts. A bad combination.

No.

Len's opinion on the issue does not matter
because Len does not regulate
radio.

Our opinion on the issue does not matter.

Sure it does! It is from the perspective of practiced and experienced
knowledge.

No.

Our opinion on the issue does not matter
because we do not regulate
radio.

FCC's opinion on the issue does matter.

And they stated it right there on HIS license. No station license, no
"operating". No ambiguity at all.

No operator license, either. A commercial
license does not authorize or qualify its
holder
to operate an amateur radio station.

So, by the FCC's own definition, Len is
neither qualified nor authorized to operate
an amateur radio station.

It is only the FCC's opinions and definitions
which matter on the issue.

That is reality.